Thoughts on Duran.

Personally Duran vs Leonard 1 was one of the best boxing matches ever. Duran was at his best then imo. I also loved Duran vs Palomino. imo one of the most naturally gifted fighters ever. He could look quite ordinary a lot of the time. But when he was at his best he was great. At WW i think he gives Pac and Floyd hell.

Uhmmmmmm............ Sunavab1tch, I will wear my stupid hat for a while. :dunce:

Roberto Duran the man with the Hands of Stone. Great guy beat fighters like Thomas Hearns at Junior Middleweight. Won a competitive match against Sugar Ray Leonard. Ruled his division which was the Lightweight with his stone fists and no one was able to crack his domination. I will never rank Pacquiao higher than Duran. Until Pacquiao beats a bunch of 6'1 fighters like Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez at Middleweight then we will talk. Until then Duran with his short height destroyed plenty of tall fighters in his time which also fuels the argument that he is an All Time Great boxer. Weight to me don't matter because it changes as a fighter age but height barely changes until a person hits their late 40's. Uhmmmmmm............

Roberto Duran the man with the Hands of Stone. Great guy beat fighters like Thomas Hearns at Junior Middleweight. Won a competitive match against Sugar Ray Leonard. Ruled his division which was the Lightweight with his stone fists and no one was able to crack his domination. I will never rank Pacquiao higher than Duran. Until Pacquiao beats a bunch of 6'1 fighters like Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez at Middleweight then we will talk. Until then Duran with his short height destroyed plenty of tall fighters in his time which also fuels the argument that he is an All Time Great boxer. Weight to me don't matter because it changes as a fighter age but height barely changes until a person hits their late 40's.

I just watched a couple of his fights and I have to say he is really overrated. He was also really dirty, I mean dude threw elbows and low blows intentionally. I honestly thought he would have be better considering how much hype he gets. I think that both Mayweather and Pacquiao would have beat him. He also was no where near as fast as I thought he would be considering he started at 135. I was his fan back in the day, but Pac is better than Duran.

He won the fight with repeated low blows. I watched both the fights with SRL. I think that SRL had an off night that night to be honest. I was really thought that I was gonna be blown away with how much people talk about him. I'm not trying to downgrade any of his accomplishments, I just kinda expected to be in awe of his skills. When I look at the Mayweather Gatti fight I am blown away, when I look at Paquiao fights in the last few years I am blown away (except for the fight with Mosley, and Clottey) Maybe I just built him up to high in my head. When you mention watching Mayweather's fight with Gatti, as well as Pacquiao's fights (with the exception of mosley and clottey) and being blown away, you have to remember those fights featured A class fighters (close or near to their prime) against over matched opposition. No matter how skillful you are as a fighter, you're not going to "arturo gatti" (RIP) a prime Ray Leonard; unless he's totally unprepared, fighting way above his weight class, coked up lol etc

U saw the Iran Barkley fight and don't see greatness... Think about it, he was 38 years old and he came up from 135, winning a title at 160 (not 155, no catchweights) against one of the biggest middleweights of that time... I know beating Barkley isn't exactly the biggest of accomplishments, but considering all that, that's a huge indication of how good he was... Was he unbeatable? At lightweight yes Floyd would get nothing but frustrated by his vicious inside attatck and his dirty tactics. Manny would lands some good shots, but Duran's body shots would take Manny into he's never been in, and the closest he ever came was when he fought Marquez, who is no Duran

subtle defensive skills slips and rolls with punches by just a tiny bit... the fact that ts said he wasnt impressed with duran's speed and that being his basis for duran losing to paac and may tells us everything we need to know about ts ts ur probably green keep on studying all his fights keep on studieng the oldschool stuff and really get an understanding of the sport

lol. you telling me you only seen like 5 of durans fights? that alone is embarassing, calling him overrated and saying mayweather and pacquiao would beat him is even worse. you have to watch any fighter more than a couple of times to fully appreciate his greatness, duran in particular. everyone knows he had some bad performances, but his longevity was astonishing as were his best performances. he was a dirty fighter, ill give you that lol. real dirty. but making it rough and physical was only one aspect of his game, he could do it all. i could reccomend you some more fights but if you seen the first SRL fight and still dont recognize his greatness i guess you just dont know greatness when you see it. overall you seem new to the sport, you talk of duran like you just heard of him and all boxing fans have seen atleast a dozen or so of his fights. some fighters you just have to know and hes one of them. my favourite duran fight is davey moore, he was past his prime even then but it was still masterful. dirty though, but who cares? if you watch that fight and dont recognize a truly special fighter maybe you should follow a sport thats a bit more simple, like darts or bowling.

the first SRL obviously. SRL is one of the greatest fighters of all time and Duran was the first to do so and that was above his best weight of course. That certainly should tell you something. Now I don't really care if you think floyd and/or pac beats him, just saying, his ATG status can't be argued. He was a great fighter. I agree completely with you he cemented his legacy. I just feel like a lot of people tend to over hype past fighters as being unbeatable by any of today's fighters.

I watched his fight with Buchanan, SRL, Tommy Hearns, Iran Barkley. What fight should I watch that demonstrate his skills, and not his rough house tactics? the leonard fight demonstrated his skills pretty damn well, i love the fienting left hook only to throw a left uppercut leonard fell for it and got caught picture perfect

Which Leonard fight? Hearns and Barkley were both when Duran was way past his prime. Buchanan was a really good fighter, and Duran beat him, so I don't see how that proves he was overrated, if you can't see the skills in that fight I don't know what to tell you. He won the fight with repeated low blows. I watched both the fights with SRL. I think that SRL had an off night that night to be honest. I was really thought that I was gonna be blown away with how much people talk about him. I'm not trying to downgrade any of his accomplishments, I just kinda expected to be in awe of his skills. When I look at the Mayweather Gatti fight I am blown away, when I look at Paquiao fights in the last few years I am blown away (except for the fight with Mosley, and Clottey) Maybe I just built him up to high in my head.

Probably the best light weight ever, and out of the fights you have seen only 1 was at 135lbs I believe.

I watched his fight with Buchanan, SRL, Tommy Hearns, Iran Barkley. What fight should I watch that demonstrate his skills, and not his rough house tactics? Which Leonard fight? Hearns and Barkley were both when Duran was way past his prime. Buchanan was a really good fighter, and Duran beat him, so I don't see how that proves he was overrated, if you can't see the skills in that fight I don't know what to tell you.

watch his entire career not "a couple of fights" then talk. Until then nobody cares what your uneducated opinion is. And btw I can sell you his career set for fantastic price of $45.99. If not STFU I watched his fight with Buchanan, SRL, Tommy Hearns, Iran Barkley. What fight should I watch that demonstrate his skills, and not his rough house tactics?

What fights did you watch?

I kind of agree with you. The hype comes from the fact that he was such a tough fighter and warrior. He was a solid straight up fighter. But yeah he isn't as great as some make him out to be. Then again that happens with a lot of past fighters. People tend to overhype every fighter that is from decades before they were born.