I challenge you to present a better list of opponents.
If we just talking just about the name of the fighters and not performance or which shape they were in... he of course ranks pretty high...
But I also want to throw in a name that usually gets forgotten: James Toney has also really a great list of opponents...
But DLH of course through the times has an astonishing list:
I mean on Hall of Famers and all-time greats alone
Chavez
Whitaker
Trinidad
Mosley
Hopkins
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Genaro and Camacho probably end up in the Hall too one day
And of course other notable names of his time
I think from the name value alone this is really a big time resume especially in these days where most fighters take the easy way... but performance and the time he fought them of course is also important...
I think past their prime were: Chavez, Whitaker, Camacho (which takes away from the opponents)...
Past his own prime: Mayweather, Pacquiao (which takes away from his own performance)
Prime: Trinidad, Mosley, probably Hopkins and Genaro...
From name value alone is is pretty good but if look into at which time/situation the names make it seem bigger then it was IMO
Oscar fought everyone, and gave the fights the fans wanted. Cant say the same for Pac and Floyd these days. Heck same goes for guys like Bradley. The ones that hate him and discredit him are the ones that ALWAYS hated him, because he was a pretty boy that could fight.
As for whoever said Mosley is better...PFFT!!!!! Mosley's whole career is based off of his first win over Oscar, and his gift rematch decision. Mosley lost to Winky, Forrest, Floyd, Pac, Mora (he deserved a loss), Cotto. Heres the catch.....besides Cotto....all his losses, hes NOT EVEN competitive in. Oscar was in EVERY fight except Pac. Even Hopkins, which i said, Oscar has no business fighting him, as size is just too much, was holding him own until body shot. Mosley's wins over Vargas (he was done), and Mayorga were nothing special, as Oscar had already killed them.
Oscar was the last of a dying breed.....guys who fought for the love. Since Oscar left, weve had to endure crap like, Pac vs Mosley, and Floyd Vs Ortiz. You aint got to love him, but you need to respect the fact he was great for the sport...more so then these divas today.
LMAO, I can’t wait for Jrosales to enter this thread!!!!
:lol1:, it's a pretty funny thread
mosley's is just as good if not better
fought winky who oscar wanted no part of
a young undefeated cotto
margarito coming off his career defining win
not too mention two fights with forrest
and what about casamayor he has fought everyone
corrales 3 times, katsidis, marquez, guerrero, castillo ...etc
not as big names as dlh or mosley but some of the best fighters in their respective weight classes
morales and barrera deserve a mention aswell as does juan manuel marquez and bernard hopkins
That's not true, Oscar offered Winky a fight. And, it was Winky who turned it down.
the only "ONE SIDED" losses oscar had was hopkins and the one known as pacsmash. . .
Hopkins fight wasn't fair to him at all - fighting a MUCH bigger man. . and even then, he wasn't exactly getting completely shutout (until stoppage time). . .
Manny Pacquiao is the only man to have absolutely handled oscar. . . but yes, oscar was far from his best and the weight issue. . . OSCAR IS A LEGEND. . . A WARRIOR. . . beautiful combination puncher. . .
Floyd beat him pretty lopsidedly.
And, how wasn't it fair for Oscar? it was at a catch-weight that favored Oscar more so than B-Hop.
And, shoe shine flurries are not beautiful combinations...Look at JMM or Finito to see beautiful combination punching.
And IDH is right...there are fighters in the last 20 years who have better resumes than Oscar.
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Plenty of fighters have better resumes than Oscar in the last 20 years anyway.
Maybe not competition wise. But, competition wise, Oakland Billy Smith could be #1 of all time. And he's not even a HOF'er..
he's resume is very good but the second chavez fight was pointless. he very easily couldn't have lost to whitaker (not a prime whitaker) and quartey and refused to give either a rematch. never really seemed to want the trinidad rematch. he didn't want to fight mosley again until after he lost twice to forrest. vargas was shot. blatantly ducked winky and never wanted to fight vernon forrest. i would give him more credit for the hopkins fight if he didn't fight the whole fight scared and then take a dive. still, he's resume is very good but i wouldn't say better than holyfield, morales, barrera...
de la hoya fought bhop when he could of eaisly made 147 that takes balls
Hopkins was a newly made "partner" with Golden Balls, and every indication seems to be that Oscar dropped and pretended to be hurt, whilst banging on the canvas with his fist. It was a rotten fight and neither hurt the other, basically a sparring match.
I challenge you to present a better list of opponents.
Being factual, apart from the fact that he lost all his big fights, and "won" a few that most observers were sure he hadn't won, it was also a fact that, like Mayweather, he had what the journalists and experts called his "Brains Trust". He picked his opponents veeerryyy care-fully...... Unfortunately, not as carefully as Mayweather, because he slipped up with Trinidad and Mosley. After that he was just a very good fighter, but no longer the Golden Boy, and just made money fights.
This is why I dont get why there are a minority of people who really dont like Oscar De La Hoya, the man fought everybody there was to fight, whether he had an advantage or a disadvantage he still fought his heart in every fight and didnt duck nobody.
So he lost some big fights at least he had the heart to take them in the first place unlike many of the boxers these days.
Imo if alot of the modern era boxers had De lay Hoyas attitude to the sport boxing would be a much better game.
that's very well said...agreed
This is why I dont get why there are a minority of people who really dont like Oscar De La Hoya, the man fought everybody there was to fight, whether he had an advantage or a disadvantage he still fought his heart in every fight and didnt duck nobody.
So he lost some big fights at least he had the heart to take them in the first place unlike many of the boxers these days.
Imo if alot of the modern era boxers had De lay Hoyas attitude to the sport boxing would be a much better game.
He definitely was in a lot of huge fights...
I remember people saying he was afraid to face Ike Quartey and even though he postponed the fight, he did finally get in there with Ike and eventually Tito...
A few of his decisions I feel could have went the other way.. I had Quartey beating him by a point and thought the Whitaker fight was extremely close... Against Trinidad you can make the case that he had done enough in the first 8-9 rounds to get the victory...
I feel he was the better man against Mosley in the rematch but definitely thought Shane pulled it out in the first fight with that big push in the second-half of the fight...
But Oscar definitely fought a lot of big names
mosley's is just as good if not better
fought winky who oscar wanted no part of
a young undefeated cotto
margarito coming off his career defining win
not too mention two fights with forrest
and what about casamayor he has fought everyone
corrales 3 times, katsidis, marquez, guerrero, castillo ...etc
not as big names as dlh or mosley but some of the best fighters in their respective weight classes
morales and barrera deserve a mention aswell as does juan manuel marquez and bernard hopkins
He was cheated outa victory vs a roided Moseley and especially vs a Trinidad with loaded wraps. He kid is an ATG
So what he got the benefit of the doubt against Whitiker, Quartey and Sturm.
It balances out~