Everytime this is posted Floyd fans disappear

that tho makes it sound like u think Floyd did it intentionally and didnt care wether time in was called???? right??? dont you think he wouldve then jus sucker punched him waaay b4 that?? like first time Ortiz tried to hug and kiss...or when they tapped gloves???? That is exactly what I am saying, Floyd likely looked at 50 and 50 was like dog you gonna let him ***** you like that... I mean Honestly my take on the fight even though Floyd was ahead on points it wasnt exactly out classed as I stated before Roth gave Ortiz round 1, Lederman and many on the forums gave Ortiz the 2nd. 3 was clearly Floyd, 4 well Floyd did seem to take that round But Ortiz did have his moments. The pace was set very high, I ask you again when is the last time you have seen Mayweather throw 208 shots in the first four rounds? and its not like Ortiz missed everything, he landed good body shots, nice right hooks some left hands as well. there was 8 rounds left, and at that pace against a bigger younger guy having been away for 16 months, my take is, As soon as Ortiz butted Floyd, Floyd just snapped, I dont think Floyd wanted to find out where this fight would go, later in the fight. I think right then and there in the heat of the moment he was like **** it ima do some gangsta ****, take my DQ, the fans will support me and justify it.... Just so happens the ref ****ed up and knew he ****ed up and covered this **** up by ruling it legal. I am not the one saying Floyd did this **** intentionally, I am saying, Floyd says he did this **** inentionally and the proof is in his statement at the post fight presser Lets be real we never thought we would have heard about him beatin his babys momma in front of his kids and threatening them if they ran for help. We never thought we would have heard about him ordering a body gaurd to shoot at someoene We never thought we would hear that he would assault a security gaurd for doing his job why would him doing something like that surprise anybody??

The reality is Lets Go is not one of the commands Here is the protocal from that link The bold is my arguement http://abcboxing.com/documents/ABC_REFEREE_GUIDELINES.pdf POINT DEDUCTION MECHANICS 1. Secure a safe distance and assume a centered position to the boxers. 2. Command “Time!”Assure that the boxers are completely apart. 3. Usher the offended boxer to a neutral corner. 4. Stand in front of the offending boxer, without turning your back on the other boxer, and advise him or her of the foul. Assure that the offending boxer understood the admonishment. 5. Notify the Judges of the point deduction and type of foul. 6. Again caution the boxer for the infraction. 7. Call time back in. 8. Have boxing resume immediately He NEVER Called TIME IN he said lets go, now from the same rule book here are the commands english and spanish The point is, be careful what words you use. If you are not fluent in the language, you may strongly consider detailing simple English commands in the Dressing Room and using them in the ring. BREAK - Although universal, you may also get your message across by saying “FUERA!” (FOO-AY-RA) or “SALGA LIMPIO!” (SAL-GAH LEEM-PEE-OH) Most Spanish boxers will understand both of these commands. HEADBUTT - If a headbutt occurred or there is a danger that a headbutt will occur you may say : “CABEZA!” (KA-BAY-SSAH) or “CUIDADO CON LA CABEZA!” (KWEE-DA-DOE KOHN LA KA-BAYSSAH) PUNCH OUT OR LET HIM GO - “SUELTELO!” (SUE-EL-TAY-LO) or “DEJELO SALIR!” (DEH-HAY-LO SAH-LEER) LOW BLOW - “GOLPE BAJO!” (GOL-PAY BAH-HOE) or “MAS ARRIBA!” (MAHS A-REE-BAH) PUNCH BACK - The Referee is not a Second, but if you feel you have to, the best way is to say it is, “TIRE GOLPES!” (TEE-RAY GOL-PAYS) STOP PUNCHING - “NO TIRE!” (NO TEE-RAY) or “NO TIRE GOLPES!” (NO TEE-RAY GOL-PAYS) STOP HOLDING - In Spanish the best command would be, “SUELTELO!” (SUE-EL-TAY-LO) This implies that the boxer is holding and that you want him to stop. STOP - “PARE!” (PAH-RAY) DON’T DO THAT - “NO HAGAS ESO!” (NO AGAS AYY-SO) I dont see lets go in that list and again from the same rule book the rules again in which they fought under 2. Verbal Commands and Hand Signals A strong sense of proper movement and positioning, verbal commands and hand signals, separate great Referees from the average ones. Establish your commands and signals in the Dressing Room. Go over breaking or separating the boxers, specific commands of the major fouls, etc. As important as this is, the sport continues to have problems due to poor mechanics that lead to negative situations for the sport. It means nothing to a boxer or the sport if the Referee thinks one thing and everyone else another. Everyone must be on the same page. You do not need to reinvent the wheel. Again if we are to look at the rules clearly Cortez ****ed this fight up and did not follow the rules that he is required to by federal law Now dispute that...... __________________ OK, so what are you trying to say? That the referee is incompetent? Well that's why the #1 rule in boxing is protect yourself at all times. You can't count on the referee to protect you. No excuses for Victor!

He could have said lets go ten thousand times during the fight, again that is NOT the prortocal when Time has been called, You call time Take a point informing the judges of the foul You warn the offending fighter again. you ensure that there is distance between the fighters You call time in and you command the fighters to box. He said lets go, he did not say time in, and again if time was in why was Cortez and the time keeper in confusion over it while Floyd cheap shotted him. You guys keep comming here talking about people dont know **** but when the rules are posted, protocal is highlighted, you avoid addressing the actual rules. Even Floyd said he never heard Cortez say anything, at the post fight presser, and that what goes around comes around in other words Floyd himself didnt clearly know that time was in which tells you what? He was willing to take a DQ loss if need be.....Again you say people dont know **** but you evade the evidence, and at the same time I dont care if Flomos take me serious or not, they just barely started to watch the ****ing sportthat tho makes it sound like u think Floyd did it intentionally and didnt care wether time in was called???? right??? dont you think he wouldve then jus sucker punched him waaay b4 that?? like first time Ortiz tried to hug and kiss...or when they tapped gloves????

Cortez says "Let's go" around 10 times in that fight, and everytime he says it the fighters seem to overstand and obey. Not to mention the hand signal given, those facts alone should make you feel a lil stupid for making this thread. See this is why nobody takes you idiots serious, you know shyt about the sport. Now when a vid comes out showing the ref telling Manny either "Let's go" or sometrhing to that effect you'll look even dumber. He could have said lets go ten thousand times during the fight, again that is NOT the prortocal when Time has been called, You call time Take a point informing the judges of the foul You warn the offending fighter again. you ensure that there is distance between the fighters You call time in and you command the fighters to box. He said lets go, he did not say time in, and again if time was in why was Cortez and the time keeper in confusion over it while Floyd cheap shotted him. You guys keep comming here talking about people dont know **** but when the rules are posted, protocal is highlighted, you avoid addressing the actual rules. Even Floyd said he never heard Cortez say anything, at the post fight presser, and that what goes around comes around in other words Floyd himself didnt clearly know that time was in which tells you what? He was willing to take a DQ loss if need be..... Again you say people dont know **** but you evade the evidence, and at the same time I dont care if Flomos take me serious or not, they just barely started to watch the ****ing sport

Again these are the rules this is protocal, I know it hurts, you dont have to be a ***** about it, you just got exposed.... Lets go is not an official command, and he never said TIME INCortez says "Let's go" around 10 times in that fight, and everytime he says it the fighters seem to overstand and obey. Not to mention the hand signal given, those facts alone should make you feel a lil stupid for making this thread. See this is why nobody takes you idiots serious, you know shyt about the sport. Now when a vid comes out showing the ref telling Manny either "Let's go" or sometrhing to that effect you'll look even dumber.

How about the rule DEFEND YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES??? What about that rule? When time is called, Punches are not to be thrown. What about the rule if a trainer steps into the ring during a contest the fighter gets DQ'd? The problem is Nevada, Not the mayweathers but Nevada all together, they are not enforcing these rules and as long as the mayweathers get away with it, they will continue to violate the rules. I am sorry but no fighter should be bigger than the sport, and due to the money involved here, Nevada is not preservin the intergrity of the sport, they are looking out for the econimic impact that a mayweather fight brings to their state. And thats a ****ing problem

My take on the fight is opposite to yours, and the rules are federal meaning they are ment to be taken literally. Naw bro they are the same. Something was fishy in that fight in how it ended people are still trying to understand. The Fact is what we saw with our eye's, the reasons why it happened as it did, we are trying to piece together. This is all just talk.

My take on the fight is opposite to yours, and the rules are federal meaning they are ment to be taken literally. How about the rule DEFEND YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES???

Look i understand what the rules say but to be taken that literally in a fight when the guy has been giving the same command to continue fighting is irresponsible action for your personal well being. If Cortez said corn pops every-time he separated them and waved them into fight they would have fought as ridiculous as the command is once it's repeated all people follow suit. Ortiz IMO was looking for a way out. He knew the game was different when he couldn't break Floyd down like he did Berto in the first round, then the second round comes and still foyd is standing and not hurt then the third round now the forth. Ortiz broke and IMO knew where the fight was going and looked for a way out. My take on the fight is opposite to yours, and the rules are federal meaning they are ment to be taken literally.

ther is a diffence kid, when Cortez was saying that time was never called he was splittin the fighters apart. However when time is called there is a series of commands a ref gives, there is a process in deducting a point for a intentional foul and that was not followed Look i understand what the rules say but to be taken that literally in a fight when the guy has been giving the same command to continue fighting is irresponsible action for your personal well being. If Cortez said corn pops every-time he separated them and waved them into fight they would have fought as ridiculous as the command is once it's repeated all people follow suit. Ortiz IMO was looking for a way out. He knew the game was different when he couldn't break Floyd down like he did Berto in the first round, then the second round comes and still foyd is standing and not hurt then the third round now the forth. Ortiz broke and IMO knew where the fight was going and looked for a way out.

I swear some people care more about it then Ortiz actually does lol. Mayweather is the best fighter in the world and if you cant handle it maybe you should try and enjoy another sport!

Floyd cheated. Cortez was on the take. No need to debate. Flomos are gays...err...i mean floyd is gay.

stop crying about it, there is more to life, Floyd was on top, and surely he watched tapes of Mayweather, he should of expected floyd to do that, he has done it in the past, its perfectly legal, he was being smart, Victoria was being dumb end of...

If that is the case, why did Ortiz know what to do on the 6/7 other occasions when Cortez said "lets go"? Your argument regarding that is invalid. If Ortiz chose to listen to him on those 6/7 occasions he can't use that as an excuse for the way the fight ended can he. Can you see the logic behind that? Or are you going to go off on another tangent? ther is a diffence kid, when Cortez was saying that time was never called he was splittin the fighters apart. However when time is called there is a series of commands a ref gives, there is a process in deducting a point for a intentional foul and that was not followed

If that is the case, why did Ortiz know what to do on the 6/7 other occasions when Cortez said "lets go"? Your argument regarding that is invalid. If Ortiz chose to listen to him on those 6/7 occasions he can't use that as an excuse for the way the fight ended can he. Can you see the logic behind that? Or are you going to go off on another tangent? 100% accurate! Ortiz ****ed it up.

You either havent a ****ing clue, or you just love Floyd that much, I say its a mix of both. The bottom line is, All parties must be on the same page, as stated in the rules, meaning all must be in tune with terms that will be used to command the fight. That did not happen how much more proof do you need? Clearly Ortiz thought time was called... The time keeper was confused as well when Cortez said lets go.... which is why he was talking to him when the cheap shots went down.. And mayweather at the post fight presser said he didnt hear Cortez say lets go or Box, what the **** does that tell you? I mean your own boy is saying he never heard him..... Again what does that mean? Surely you are not that thick? I mean, come on, really? So, had they been on a different page every other time they broke and Cortez told them "Let's go" and they fought? Was that just something else? Every other time Cortez used that term, and he did throughout the whole fight, was Ortiz not understanding it when he started fighting again? If you are going to talk about being on the same page, you need to be on the same page. The command that both Mayweather and Ortiz had been getting from Cortez all night was "Let's go" and Ortiz had been on the same page the whole night. Grow the **** up. Face it buddy, it's got nothing to do with rules etc and everything about trying to find a way to discredit whatever it is you're trying to discredit. Why is it this fight in particular you're jumping on? Every fight has things like this in it. Watch any other fight and you'll see the same ****. Why are you not *****ing about them with essay length posts? Get over it.

They where on the same page till Ortiz left his corner to go hug floyd. Fact. Why would you be looking to hear something different when he's been saying lets go for the entirety of the fight. go back and look for yourself. the breaks them then he says lets go. and Ortiz fought then then why all of a sudden does it change this situation. Why are you looking to hear something different??? The fault is on Ortiz. 100% I like the dude but he ****ed up and needs to deal with it. I disagree, when you call time, and the time keeper stops the clock, you make sure that the clock is started before you say lets go or Box, there is a protocal that has to be followed and it wasnt. Again proof is in Cortezs speaking with the time keeper while Floyd cheap shotted Ortiz. And further proof is in the post fight presser, When Floyd admitted he never heard Cortez say anything and that what goes around comes around he basicly admits that he did not hear a command to box and that he retaliated. if that doesnt spell it out for you then I have no idea what will, its funny how Fans tend to grasp every word the man says when he is talking money and *****es adn 50 yet when he admits to something like not hearing Cortez say time in and that what goes around comes around they ignore that.... Funny how the flomos work, I thought pactards were bad, but honestly Flomos just seem to always take the cake

Again insulting me rather than debating me head on like a man is a clear sign that your desperately trying to claim victory here. The rules state that all parties must be on the same page, if he was to use lets go as a command according to those rules, that should have been told to Ortiz in the dressing room. So then why is it that Ortiz, was looking for the command time in and box? Obviously Cortez did not do his job right in addressing the commands he would be using for the fight. Hand signals are not always going to be effective simply because during a fight your not going to be looking at the ref your going to be looking at whos hitting you. Again insult me again, my kid would never train with the likes of a mayweather as our style is to seek and destroy and Rogers just doesnt fit that style we love to fight win lose or draw we love to give a good show... Ortiz was not clearly informed in the dressing room the commands that Cortez would be using thats why, and again when you read them rules it states that all parties must be on the same page, hell even the time keeper didnt know that time was in, Floyd said he never heard Joe say box or call time in what more proof do you need? I agree with you in regards to the butt had Ortiz not done that this wouldnt be a factor, but it is what it is... and it still does not change the rules If that is the case, why did Ortiz know what to do on the 6/7 other occasions when Cortez said "lets go"? Your argument regarding that is invalid. If Ortiz chose to listen to him on those 6/7 occasions he can't use that as an excuse for the way the fight ended can he. Can you see the logic behind that? Or are you going to go off on another tangent?

Again insulting me rather than debating me head on like a man is a clear sign that your desperately trying to claim victory here. The rules state that all parties must be on the same page, if he was to use lets go as a command according to those rules, that should have been told to Ortiz in the dressing room. So then why is it that Ortiz, was looking for the command time in and box? Obviously Cortez did not do his job right in addressing the commands he would be using for the fight. Hand signals are not always going to be effective simply because during a fight your not going to be looking at the ref your going to be looking at whos hitting you. Again insult me again, my kid would never train with the likes of a mayweather as our style is to seek and destroy and Rogers just doesnt fit that style we love to fight win lose or draw we love to give a good show... Ortiz was not clearly informed in the dressing room the commands that Cortez would be using thats why, and again when you read them rules it states that all parties must be on the same page, hell even the time keeper didnt know that time was in, Floyd said he never heard Joe say box or call time in what more proof do you need? I agree with you in regards to the butt had Ortiz not done that this wouldnt be a factor, but it is what it is... and it still does not change the rules They where on the same page till Ortiz left his corner to go hug floyd. Fact. Why would you be looking to hear something different when he's been saying lets go for the entirety of the fight. go back and look for yourself. the breaks them then he says lets go. and Ortiz fought then then why all of a sudden does it change this situation. Why are you looking to hear something different Ortiz??? The fault is on Ortiz. 100% I like the dude but he ****ed up and needs to deal with it.

From where I sat I saw two guys breaking the code of sport and an incompetent ref. It happens a lot nowadays across the sporting world. I see a lot of **** about "its a fight" and "protect yourself at all times" but it has rules and is monitored carefully, indeed the ref is one of these monitors.....you have this kind of thing in a sport. You can see "a fight" in any town center on any Saturday night, its usually a ridiculous skill less load of crap. I saw a man who despite the odd bout of intriguing aggression was essentially getting beat, he resorted to desperation. The Ref intervened as Floyd held his head and looked totally bamboozled by Ortiz behavoir. The ref deducted a point, brought the fighters together......said lets go and turned away to acknowledge the commissioner as the fighters embraced a little then.....POW right in the kisser as Ortiz stepped back. The ref looks back in time to see a confused Ortiz take a second cheap shot a thudding sick straight right and drop like a sack of potatos. I have one question.......what the **** was Cortez doing, why wasnt he looking at the fighters? Why didnt he check the commisioner before restarting the fight? Two culprits one incompetent ref equalling a ruined fight. Cortez was asked by the time keeper if time was in, there was confusion, I am tellin you and you can hear him at that point while looking at the time keeper he says "time, time in" exactly like that and as he said that the left hook had already landed and the right hand was on its way. You are not supposed to call time in with out the fighters being seperated, officially time was in when Cortez was looking at the time keeper un officially time was in according to the fans when He said lets go.... However if lets go really did indicate that time was in, why was he debating if time was in with the time keeper? Cortez dropped the ball here, and I am sure his co workers, Keith Kaizer, and Bayless who have said he did nothing wrong felt bad for him because he just lost his mother that same day.