These are my rankings: 1. Floyd Mayweather (easily the best fighter in the world) 2. Sergio Martinez (he just continues to get better and better) 3. Nonito Donaire (great skills and talent, I wish
he fought more) 4. Manny Pacquiao (as great as he is he's very over rated imo, his recent fights have been a joke) 5. Andre Ward (has the best pure boxing skills on this list outside of Floyd and Nonito) If B-Hop beats Dawson I would put him at # 2 but he is past his prime. What are your rankings.
These are my rankings: 1. Floyd Mayweather (easily the best fighter in the world) 2. Sergio Martinez (he just continues to get better and better) 3. Nonito Donaire (great skills and talent, I wish
he fought more) 4. Manny Pacquiao (as great as he is he's very over rated imo, his recent fights have been a joke) 5. Andre Ward (has the best pure boxing skills on this list outside of Floyd and Nonito) If B-Hop beats Dawson I would put him at # 2 but he is past his prime. What are your rankings.
Solid list... I'd switch one or two but it's not hard to agree with that.
1. Floyd
2. Donaire
3. Pacquiao
4. Martinez
5. Ward
1. Floyd based on ring intelligence, match making, defense, hand speed and durability.
2. Martinez has taken on the toughercompetition of late and has fought and beaten the guy no one at the time wanted to fight P williams. Speed, Stamina, Lefty and gets better every fight. If he wants a big payday he shouldve called Margarito out instead of Pac Cotto and Mayweather. Avenge that loss and retire that cheater.
3. Ward has all of Floyds credentials just needs a little more seasoning. Very intelligent fighter, arrogant about his skillsand believe in defense and adapts very well just like his IDOL. Future P4P #1 IMHO.
4. PAC has the least skills out of all these guys but his workrate ability to take a shot and angles puts him ahead of Donaire IMO. Pac gets flustered by guys whom either dont come straight at him or can move to counter his angles. Hes to easy to hit and when he faces a counter puncher with speed and timing he often finds himself taking to many clean shots. Puts on a great show but should get more criticism for his ducking and subpar opponents just like Floyd does. Prime example is Soto, Juan Diaz, Paul Williams, Mosley after Margarito win, Foreman, Marquez up to 144 when both are naturully lighter weight guys. His weight draining tactics have diminished his wins IMHO but everyone wants an advantage in some way or another.
5. Donaire maybe in the future he will fight guys his own size and skill level and then possibly he can earn all of this credit that has been thrown his way. OVER-RATED to the max. This guy shot to the top of the pound for pound rankings but if you look at his resume over the last three years and compare it to someone like Bradley there is no comparison. The inactivity has been about the same for the two for the same promotional and contratual reason but Bradley looks more duckish because he didnt accept the Khan challenge. Donaire nothing special yet. He has some good KO's but against guys whom were smaller and were connecting withnthere own shots but because of the size difference didnt finish the job. What happenes when he faces someone of the same statue and speed with power. I think we will see Donaire with little defense get sparked out quickly. Just what I believe but this guys shouldnt e ahead of Hopkins are Marquez on the P4P list let alone Bradley.
1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Nonito Donaire
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Andre Ward
5. Sergio Martinez
This is what I would put down, I feel a bit uneasy rating Donaire above Pac though.
Scoring Criteria (in relation to weight/size) on scale of 1-10
Offense: (1) Speed, (2) Power, (3) Footwork (mobility and foot speed), (4) Jab, (5) Straight, (6) Hooks, (7) Uppercuts, (8) Combinations
Defense: (9) Blocking, (10) Head and Upperbody Movement
Intangibles: (11) Heart, (12) Chin, (13) Ring IQ ("read and react"), (14) Stamina
Donaire: (1) 10, (2) 10, (3) 9, (4) 6, (5) 8, (6) 9, (7) 6, (8) 8, (9) 6, (10) 7, (11) 7*, (12) 7*, (13) 8, (14) 7* TOTAL:108
Mayweather: (1) 10, (2) 6, (3) 7, (4) 8, (5) 10, (6) 10, (7) 8, (8) 8, (9) 9, (10) 10, (11) 7*, (12) 8, (13) 10, (14) 9 TOTAL: 120
Pacquiao: (1) 10, (2) 10, (3) 9, (4) 6, (5) 10, (6) 10, (7) 7, (8) 10, (9) 6, (10) 5, (11) 10, (12) 9, (13) 6, (14) 10 TOTAL: 118
Ward: (1) 8, (2) 5, (3) 8, (4) 8, (5) 8, (6) 8, (7) 7, (8) 8, (9) 8, (10) 7, (11) 7*, (12) 7*, (13) 8, (14) 8 TOTAL: 105
Martinez: (1) 9, (2) 8, (3) 10, (4) 8, (5) 10, (6) 7, (7) 6, (8) 7, (9) 4, (10) 8, (11) 10, (12) 8, (13) 8, (14) 7 TOTAL: 110
* - denotes lack of data - we simply have not seen that aspect of their game come into play.
PLEASE ask me if you have any questions about how/why I scored a fighter's ability. I tried to take into account opponents they have fought, and other more subjective aspects of the game when scoring. Of course you are going to disagree with me - so let me know, and we'll figure it out!
Judging from your previous post I would think you'd have Pacquiao rated above Mayweather, instead you have Mayweather above Pac. Strange
But my list goes
Pacquiao
Mayweather
Donaire
Martinez
Ward
These are my rankings: 1. Floyd Mayweather (easily the best fighter in the world) 2. Sergio Martinez (he just continues to get better and better) 3. Nonito Donaire (great skills and talent, I wish
he fought more) 4. Manny Pacquiao (as great as he is he's very over rated imo, his recent fights have been a joke) 5. Andre Ward (has the best pure boxing skills on this list outside of Floyd and Nonito) If B-Hop beats Dawson I would put him at # 2 but he is past his prime. What are your rankings.
based on ability or athleticism
1. Pacquaio: too much speed, too much power and carries it up in weight, also southpaw. has a good chin. almost the complete package athletically.
2. Nonito: speed and power, dunno if it will carry up in weight, a lot of potential, but that's what it really is at this point, potential.
3. Wifebeater: speed and reflexes. below average chin and average power.
4. Martinez: good speed, good power, but in the past has taken rounds off, possibly a problem with this conditioning, but always has a second win.
5. Ward: good speed, average power... not that great and doesn't really belong on this list
based on traditional boxing skills only
1. wifebeater
2. nonito
3. pacquiao
4. martinez
5. ward
nice mayweather gets caught with atleast 3 good lefts from ortiz
http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/mayweather-ortiz1.gif
well manny won't get to be the p4p king, fotd and so many times foty and 8 weight division champ for nothing...
so he's top honcho now...
donaire
floyd
martinez
ward
1. Floyd Mayweather(Most complete all-around Boxer)
2. Nonito Donaire( One of the most complete Boxers in Boxing)
3. Andre Ward(One of the most versatile Boxers in Boxing)
4. Manny Pacquiao(One of the toughest, and most athletic Boxers in Boxing)
5. Sergio Martinez
Scoring Criteria (in relation to weight/size) on scale of 1-10
Offense: (1) Speed, (2) Power, (3) Footwork (mobility and foot speed), (4) Jab, (5) Straight, (6) Hooks, (7) Uppercuts, (8) Combinations
Defense: (9) Blocking, (10) Head and Upperbody Movement
Intangibles: (11) Heart, (12) Chin, (13) Ring IQ ("read and react"), (14) Stamina
Donaire: (1) 10, (2) 10, (3) 9, (4) 6, (5) 8, (6) 9, (7) 6, (8) 8, (9) 6, (10) 7, (11) 7*, (12) 7*, (13) 8, (14) 7* TOTAL:108
Mayweather: (1) 10, (2) 6, (3) 7, (4) 8, (5) 10, (6) 10, (7) 8, (8) 8, (9) 9, (10) 10, (11) 7*, (12) 8, (13) 10, (14) 9 TOTAL: 120
Pacquiao: (1) 10, (2) 10, (3) 9, (4) 6, (5) 10, (6) 10, (7) 7, (8) 10, (9) 6, (10) 5, (11) 10, (12) 9, (13) 6, (14) 10 TOTAL: 118
Ward: (1) 8, (2) 5, (3) 8, (4) 8, (5) 8, (6) 8, (7) 7, (8) 8, (9) 8, (10) 7, (11) 7*, (12) 7*, (13) 8, (14) 8 TOTAL: 105
Martinez: (1) 9, (2) 8, (3) 10, (4) 8, (5) 10, (6) 7, (7) 6, (8) 7, (9) 4, (10) 8, (11) 10, (12) 8, (13) 8, (14) 7 TOTAL: 110
* - denotes lack of data - we simply have not seen that aspect of their game come into play.
PLEASE ask me if you have any questions about how/why I scored a fighter's ability. I tried to take into account opponents they have fought, and other more subjective aspects of the game when scoring. Of course you are going to disagree with me - so let me know, and we'll figure it out!
this is pretty good actually, i might disagree on a few minor points but pretty good nonetheless.
1. Floyd
2. Martinez
3.Ward
4.Donaire
5.Pacquiao
assuming you mean skills by ability and tbh Manny is not really that skilled he has other gifts like unbelievable conditioning and great chin