Atlas:"Ortiz looked for a way to get out, he was looking for him to disqualify Floyd"

Evil_Abed14y ago

TEDDY ATLAS: "ORTIZ LOOKED FOR A WAY TO GET OUT...HE WAS LOOKING FOR HIM TO DISQUALIFY FLOYD" By Percy Crawford | September 22, 2011 "It started with Ortiz. Ortiz blatantly headbutted him...let's be honest about what happened, he couldn't hit this guy. He couldn't hit this guy and he couldn't make it the kind of fight that he can handle. Mayweather was too fast, too smart, too slick with his punches, too consistent, too steady and too confident, and he started to dominate the fight. Mayweather was dominating the fight and he was on his way to knocking him out and on his way to picking him apart and undressing him piece by piece and Ortiz started unraveling...I feel that Ortiz looked for a way to get out of the fight and his way to get out of the fight was to headbutt...he looked at the referee to do what he tried to get him to do the first time he committed the headbutt. He was looking for him to disqualify Floyd. He was looking for help. He was looking for a way out of the fight instead of acting like a fighter," stated ESPN commentator and world-class trainer Teddy Atlas, who broke down Floyd Mayweather 4th round knockout of Victor Ortiz this past Saturday. You don't want to miss what else he had to say about the fight, both fighters, and much more. PC: You have several catchphrases, Teddy. One of them is, "Always behave like a fighter inside of the ring." Victor Ortiz had a lapse and didn't behave like a fighter during the biggest fight of his career against Floyd Mayweather and was knocked out for it. What did you think of the 4th round knockout? TA: Look, you can't touch on one thing without touching on another thing, and the other thing is, the way we got to the place where there is a controversy, supposedly, with the knockout is because of what Ortiz did. It's not because of what Mayweather did. Let's be honest here, and I know there are a lot of haters out there and all of that crap, and I don't have tolerance for that, I don't have time for that, there are more important things in this freaking world than that crap, so put that aside, leave that in your freaking garage somewhere; it started with Ortiz. Ortiz blatantly headbutted him. This is a physical business, but it's a mental business, and if people don't understand that, then give yourself a chance to learn it. Put some gloves on and get into the ring and see what happens to you mentally and see what happens to you emotionally when you are in that ring. When you finish, you may say, "How did I let myself do that?" Because you were under pressure, you were scared, and mentally, you were influenced in a way that you never understood you would be influenced before. That's what happened to Ortiz. Ortiz got in there...let's be honest about what happened, he couldn't hit this guy. He couldn't hit this guy and he couldn't make it the kind of fight that he can handle. Mayweather was too fast, too smart, too slick with his punches, too consistent, too steady and too confident, and he started to dominate the fight. Mayweather was dominating the fight and he was on his way to knocking him out and on his way to picking him apart and undressing him piece by piece and Ortiz started unraveling. He did, not much unlike, although it's not as nasty or over the top, what Mike Tyson did to Evander Holyfield. Tyson didn't bite his ear because Evander kept butting him; he did it to get out of the fight. He could not handle Holyfield as a man and the professional that he was, so he looked for a way to get out of that fight and have an alibi to live with it emotionally. There was no difference here. I feel that Ortiz looked for a way to get out of the fight and his way to get out of the fight was to headbutt. If the headbutt would have worked, one or two things would have happened. He would have busted him up, the fight would have been stopped, and he would have been out of the fight, or he would have gotten disqualified and he would have been out of the fight. Now, after a point gets taken away, he has to continue, so now he goes the other way and he wants to kiss and he wants to hug. Meanwhile, the referee wasn't the best referee. Let's be honest, the referee didn't do a good job, but once he allows them to go back and fight, and he allows them to fight, this guy wants to continue kissing. He doesn't want to fight. Well, you know what? It's time to fight. This is a difficult business and a dangerous business and an unforgiving business. And at that point, Floyd said, "You're going to give me that opportunity within the realm of what's allowed," and that realm was allowable, "then guess what, I'm going to act like a fighter. I'm going to fight. If you're not going to act like a fighter, then I'm going to take advantage of it." Even when he got hit with the first left hook, if I am a lawyer in court, exhibit A and exhibit B. Well once he got hit with the first punch, he was fine. He wasn't hurt. He was cognizant and in control of all of his faculties. He looked at the referee. He didn't react like a fighter. He didn't say, "Okay, you son of a *****, let's go. Let's fight." He didn't move his head or his hands; he looked at the referee to do what he tried to get him to do the first time he committed the headbutt. He was looking for him to disqualify Floyd. He was looking for help. He was looking for a way out of the fight instead of acting like a fighter. PC: I don't think a lot of people understand, but boxing doesn't have instant replay. If that headbutt lands and Floyd is cut where he couldn't continue, as you said, that's either a DQ win for Floyd or worse than that, since 4 rounds of fighting wasn't complete, that ends in a no-contest. How many pissed off pay-per-view buyers do you have then? TA: Yeah, you're right; even more. Again, Floyd, you can like him or you can hate him. I know it's fashionable to hate him, but I don't hate him. I understand him. Now, I do get frustrated with him and I don't agree with him all of the time, but I can't make him the guy with the black hat. I can't make him into the bad guy or the villain just to make him the bad guy. Could he had waited a second or two and been, what we think, Alexis Arguello is and what we thought he was because he was a gentleman and he would give him a little extra time? Yes. But we have a million fighters that would have done the same thing; good fighters and respectful fighters. Roberto Duran, we love him, but he would have destroyed the guy at that moment. And Marvin Hagler would have destroyed the guy. So we got a million fighters that would have done the same thing. Do we have one or two fighters that, when they saw they were in control of the fight, they saw that they can get on the inside, and when they saw that the guy didn't want to fight no more, maybe those guys give a split second and say, "You better get your hands up. I'm going to kick your ass. Come on, I'm gonna kick your ass now." Maybe, maybe, but did he have to do that? No, he didn't have to do that. Is he a vicious guy that doesn't play by the rules? No, he is not. No, he is not. He's got his faults and his flaws, and unfortunately you know more about him because of the media, because of 24/7 and everything else they use nowadays; you get a peek at things that normally you wouldn't get a peek at, and that influences you. That brings you down a certain road that normally you wouldn't know about other fighters. You get to see that they got the same kind of warts in different areas. You would be influenced in a similar way if you don't know those things, but with Floyd, you know things that you don't like about him. At the end of the day, I don't know how you can throw all of these daggers and all of these razor blades at Floyd when he was doing what he had to do. He is in a difficult business and he was doing what he felt he had to do at that moment. He's got a moment and an opportunity to make sure he doesn't get hurt and to make sure he wins this fight. This guy was already reprimanded; they had already touched gloves and kissed. They already had did all of this stuff. The referee didn't say, "Hey Floyd, step back. Hey Floyd, wait a minute." He didn't give them a timeout or do anything. At that point, again, I'm going to be devil's advocate, but could Floyd have waited a second or two? He could've. Would all of these other fighters that we know and we love and that we feel good with, would they have done the same things? Yeah, most of them would have probably done the same thing. http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10822.html

Comments (20)

TaurusJ27

I agree with Atlas's views. I'm still confused on why Ortiz was so happy through the fight.

14y ago

deejd

You only got one reply because the midgets are mad that Floyd Mayweather has a 4th round KO victory over a prime, 164 lb welterweight champion. I've always thought that Mayweather would beat Pacquiao easily... but that fact alone leads me to believe Mayweather would spark him out early, especially with random drug testing.

14y ago

Gino_Ros

The night after the fight I started a thread with the following comments: Isn't a Sharp Left Hook Enough to Wake You Up? A lot has been said about last night's PPV between Mayweather and Ortiz; I don't know if it's been brought up, but Victor really should've gotten the message when Floyd cold clocked him with a left hook. Instead, he looked to the ref to call for a foul/permission to continue/God-knows-what. Then he gets laid-out with a straight right that sends him sailing into the corner in one of the most embarrassing and infamous KOs in boxing history. Earth to Victor: You're in a fight! You just got socked! Get your head out of your culo and defend yourself! SMH I got one reply. lol Clearly, Teddy, you and I think it's a valid point. You only got one reply because the midgets are mad that Floyd Mayweather has a 4th round KO victory over a prime, 164 lb welterweight champion.

14y ago

SmokinJ

Could he had waited a second or two and been, what we think, Alexis Arguello is and what we thought he was because he was a gentleman and he would give him a little extra time? Yes. But we have a million fighters that would have done the same thing; good fighters and respectful fighters. Roberto Duran, we love him, but he would have destroyed the guy at that moment. And Marvin Hagler would have destroyed the guy. Manly man

14y ago

SkillspayBills

Teddy was talking that real ****. Seemed as unbias as you can get though so good **** Atlas.

14y ago

Evil_Abed

The interviewer is crazy bias. But Teddy still makes some great points.

14y ago

ILLuminato

We already know Ortiz is a quitter, he was never taught not to quit. Teddy Atlas should counsel him.

14y ago

Evil_Abed

hahaha! Teddy is in floyd's payroll. Tell him to watch this video hehe! Floyd gets taxxed so bad. Damn so sweeeet! Floyd was winning the 4th round.

14y ago

Zerwas1

Atlas talking bull****, like always.

14y ago

Spoon23

Teddy Atlas Is The Truth B1tches... hahaha! Teddy is in floyd's payroll. Tell him to watch this video hehe! Floyd gets taxxed so bad. Damn so sweeeet!

14y ago

Buffalo

Please shut the f up already. He hasn't fought in almost 2 years and his "tune up" fight is against a big strong young champion. Yet fools like you say fight the guy is a bum. he got stopped in 6 by maidana a guy khan toyed with First off genius margo and cotto are busy, maybe you heard. Even that being said, margo sucks and why the f would floyd fight him now? that would be some serious cherrypicking. The pac thing isn't happening, so who should he have fought? He's a welterweight and your trying to tell us ortiz wasn't a top welter? He was the top guy available and now your mad that floyd schooled him. I agree victor sucks, he's mentally a chump but he was the top rated welter avail. At least floyd didn't pull a ***** move and fight paul williams or andre berto.

14y ago

k1llu

That was a great read atlas was 100% spot on.

14y ago

Buffalo

atlas thinks that way about everyone. ha ha ha tyson, moorer . atlas is always thinking that way but i doubt ortiz was thinking that much. he was just trying to win the fight i mean he is 2 classes below mayweather. to be honest for mayweather to be p4p the best why was he fighting someone like ortiz ? he needs to fight a cotto or margarito or pacquiao .... Please shut the f up already. He hasn't fought in almost 2 years and his "tune up" fight is against a big strong young champion. Yet fools like you say fight margarito? Dude margo shouldn't be fighting period. He is a proven cheater. Plus he lost 2 out of his last 3 fights badly. Cotto is shot and you all would call floyd out for picking a spent cotto. On top of all that they all fight for top rank and top rank is not making a fight with floyd. You non fans give yourself away everytime you bring up margo or clottey..........:pat:

14y ago

HAVISJ

14y ago

HAVISJ

Geez, when a fighter smiles it means it hurt bad and you got me good. Ask margarito getting hitt so many times by the pacman. He smiles as if to shrug it off, but it actually means a fuk got hit good again. Or it can mean, this is the best you have? This is going to be an easy day if work.

14y ago

Ray

At the end of the day boxing is not a tickling contest, Floyd did what he had to do and even James Toney agreed with it! Hating aside but beetches would alway be beetches.

14y ago

skillswin

Mayweather was ready to put a gatti performance on Ortiz...

14y ago

MayMosPeaHop

Watch this video of the fourth. Ortiz was actually winning the fourth round ;) bullsh!t. Stop trying to sell this garbage. Nobody is buying.

14y ago

Spoon23

i dunno...i felt victor was frustrated by his ineffectiveness, but i dont think the fight really got to the point where he wanted to escape. i just got the impression that he let his frustration boil over Watch this video of the fourth. Ortiz was actually winning the fourth round ;)

14y ago

Spoon23

Ortiz best shots where absorbed and met with smiles... he not only head-butted floyd he ****in tried to throw his head threw floyds, like a good jab,and then swung at floyd afterwards.... There is no question in my mind, if, say that head butt doesnt happen but, Ortiz instead hit May low and Cortez warned him Ortiz tried to kiss and make p the same... Floyd woldnt have KOed him like he did.. Floyd was pissed and Larry Merchant proved it... Geez, when a fighter smiles it means it hurt bad and you got me good. Ask margarito getting hitt so many times by the pacman. He smiles as if to shrug it off, but it actually means a fuk got hit good again.

14y ago