maybe it will be a good thing maybe a bad thing, course he is fighting Bernard Hopkins so it might not matter at all. To me Dawsons biggest problem in this fight is the fact that he doesnt have the style to trouble Hopkins, he's got the skills but not the right style. He's likely not going to be the one pressing the pace, like Calzaghe did and even then Calzaghe barely won that fight and in some people's eyes the fight should have been a draw. He's likely not going to be the better counter puncher or mover. What he does have over Hopkins is youth and maybe a little more power, hand speed I think is about equal. I honestly see Hopkins getting a careful UD or maybe even knocking chad down and getting a stoppage late. Dawson to me needs to not let the genie out of the bottle and hurt Hopkins early to keep Hopkins from gaining momentum.
Manny has always overrated Trainer. All dude does is try to make everybody fight lime hearns. I can't knock what he does for the game of boxing but dude isn't that great as a trainer.
With that said it don't mAtter who the trainer is if Chad keeps doing the sh1t that he does. Like I'm a fan but I sit back and watch him and I'm like "WTF is wrong with this n1gga"
Dawson doesn't a want a trainer who will ask him to be more aggresive by letting go his hands. Dawson doesn't like to fight in wars, he wants to fight like Mayweather. Will it work against Hopkins ? No.
Scully won't be the one to blame if Dawson doesn't adjust to the experienced Hopkins.
Yeah, I think he's like the lead "trainer" but his assistant do the bulk of the day to day stuff after he develops the plan and strategy.
Yes, that is exactly what happens. And get this, its been like that for a WHILE. Like back when he was training Tommy and Milton McCrory. And its not a knock on Manny, not at all. But the guy that was saying that John Scully was a loser is just non sense.
I know Manny Steward too and he doesn't even train fighters these days man. He comes in with about 2 weeks of camp left and "trains" the fighters. He's merely a name at this point in his training career.
Yeah, I think he's like the lead "trainer" but his assistant do the bulk of the day to day stuff after he develops the plan and strategy.
That the past...who does Icy have now that is relevant on the boxing landscape. I've seen his body of work (Mike Mike and Matt Godawful)...he's trash as a trainer (i don't know him personally, he probably a good human being).
The only reason why Icy has the assignment is because Chad is too lazy to travel, it has nothing to do with Steward skill.
You cannot compare Icy to Emmanuel Steward....Icy will never be in the boxing HOF.
I know Manny Steward too and he doesn't even train fighters these days man. He comes in with about 2 weeks of camp left and "trains" the fighters. He's merely a name at this point in his training career.
You moron...Mike Mike is not an elite fighter, Juamma will go through him. ICY Man is a loser, Chad is only with him because he too lazy too travel.
Icy resume is garbage, he has no outstanding boxer right now...stop being a tool, see the light.
If Chad thought anything of Icy, he would never had LEFT him.
Scully helped developed Dawson a lot. It was Scully who taught Dawson to use his land hand more, and Dawson's body punching ability was developed by Scully as well.
Well until you "reveal" why Chad left Steward (someone he won his return fight with) I'm going with Chad being a lazy motherfukka and not wanting to travel to put in the work.
If Icy was so good, why did Chad leave him in the first place...Is Icy still training that loser Mike Mike? I can't think of one winning boxer Icy has.
Personal reasons, Scully wanted to stay in CT and train local boxers, Dawson moved down to Florida after he signed with Shaw. When he moved down to Florida he hooked up with Dan Birmingham.
Scully was suppose to train Dawson against Stipe Drews but that fight was canceled.
You stupid tool, are you telling me that Juan Manuel Lopez and Mike Mike are on the same LEVEL?
Juanma is a former world champion, Mike Mike is a local circuit boxers....I've see n enough of Mike Mike fights including his two losses...YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE TWO
Is Mike Mike your phucking brother or something?
I'm not saying Mike Mike is gonna beat Lopez.
All I'm saying is that NOBODY thought Salido could do the job. But he did.
You don't KNOW that. How many Mike Oliver fights have you seen?
You stupid tool, are you telling me that Juan Manuel Lopez and Mike Mike are on the same LEVEL?
Juanma is a former world champion, Mike Mike is a local circuit boxers....I've see n enough of Mike Mike fights including his two losses...YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE TWO
Is Mike Mike your phucking brother or something?
Clearly the Manny experiment wasn't going to work never seemed like a good fit in the first place all the comparisions to Hearns just awkard him yelling at Chad in between rounds would have grew old quick.
He feels more comfortable with Scully then so be it
He left Eddie Mustafa does that mean he isn't a good trainer?
Scully has very good boxing knowledge IMO
Yeah Salido has 11 losses you moron, but you know...he would beat the sh*t out of Mike Mike.
You don't KNOW that. How many Mike Oliver fights have you seen?
LOL you're such an idiot.
Salido has 11 losses and has been knocked out 5 times. People in boxing are so stupid it's ridiculous.
Yeah Salido has 11 losses you moron, but you know...he would beat the sh*t out of Mike Mike.
It's not my business to reveal. I don't care what you think, but you're an idiot for making such assumptions when you're clearly not in the know. To do that about ANYTHING in life is ridiculous and immature.
How is Mike Mike a loser? He's lost two fights and he's set to fight Juanma Lopez.
Lopez will destroy him? Oh yeah, cuz he really beat that bum Salido bad...
You moron...Mike Mike is not an elite fighter, Juamma will go through him. ICY Man is a loser, Chad is only with him because he too lazy too travel.
Icy resume is garbage, he has no outstanding boxer right now...stop being a tool, see the light.
If Chad thought anything of Icy, he would never had LEFT him.
Bottom line, NOONE knows how exactly this is gonna turn out so what's the point in hating?
Wait until after the fight before making comments on whether Scully is a good trainer and whether the match up works.
For now, just be happy for the guy.
Well until you "reveal" why Chad left Steward (someone he won his return fight with) I'm going with Chad being a lazy motherfukka and not wanting to travel to put in the work.
If Icy was so good, why did Chad leave him in the first place...Is Icy still training that loser Mike Mike? I can't think of one winning boxer Icy has.
It's not my business to reveal. I don't care what you think, but you're an idiot for making such assumptions when you're clearly not in the know. To do that about ANYTHING in life is ridiculous and immature.
How is Mike Mike a loser? He's lost two fights and he's set to fight Juanma Lopez.
Lopez will destroy him? Oh yeah, cuz he really beat that bum Salido bad...
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