Joel Julio: Zaveck is in the best shape of his life, he can beat Berto!

Anytime i read about Zaveck it seems that he is a technically sound fighter.Be very suprised if Berto does not win but will be rooting for Jan anyway

No, not at all. The one I posted above is clearly the official version, because it has SES Boxing symbol (Zavec's Club) written below. The other one doesn't. I think they had the one in my avatar ready at first, but decided to change it to what it is now. Or they just made this version for the Zavec's website for Zavec's fans. IDK. I also found this one, which seems more appropriate... http://www.divshare.com/img/display/15634047-f54

Same here^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think some people short change Berto. The dudes a fighter. I enjoy his work. Plus, he has some serious assets. He did not anticipate the intensity Ortiz was gonna throw at him. It was a really good fight! i think the fight will be interesting from several different angles. mental: berto is coming off a career defining loss; zavec's US debut conditioning: berto working full camp with conte, zavec's choice of good sparring fairness: does zavec receive fair treatment as champ? hopefully the judging will be under close scrutiny. which is probably asking too much. it's no wonder people don't know how things will roll out exactly. both boxers have introduced several changes/improvements to their schedule. i think though zavec will have a good chance, because he's been the underdog many times before, but still pulled off a W. it would be good for boxing too, having a fresh face out there. it's been the year of upsets, but also robberies. so which one is it going to be here?

Never seen Zavek before. Does anyone who doesn't have a bias either way think he has a real shot at beating Berto? Same here^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think some people short change Berto. The dudes a fighter. I enjoy his work. Plus, he has some serious assets. He did not anticipate the intensity Ortiz was gonna throw at him. It was a really good fight!

OK, but Mayweather is one of the two biggest stars in boxing and a case could be made that he is the actual welterweight champion, with or without a belt. Still, I agree the way they do the posters these days is all wrong. It's more about how big a star you are as opposed to what belt you have. It would be like if back when Leonard fought Norris, they had Ray on the left and promoted it as Leonard vs Norris WBC Jr Middleweight Title. Oh, they did... http://www.posters57.com/images/LEONARD_VS_NORRIS_002.jpg=600.jpeg :pat: Good stuff!

Zacevks getting robbed. Why? Al Haymon. See Paul Williams gift decisions, Berto over Collazo, etc.

NO PAIN, NO GAME! zavec's biloxi camp team (from left to right): tomi jagarinec (conditioning trainer), zavec, joel julio, sergei vartanov (zavec's club mate&second sparring partner) http://ss1.spletnik.si/4_4/000/000/270/57a/IMG_1870.jpg

LOL, unless Zavecks power dramatically increased, he's probably going to lose. Who actually thinks Zaveck gets a fair shake in America and against an Al Haymon fighter. :alcoholic Our sport is ****ed up like that, it's as bad and corrupt as politics. yeah a robbery is possible, but the world will be watching (froch/ward is coming soon ...), so i hope the judging will be fair. but we all know people who are closely involved don't really care about it, as long as they pocket the money. really i just want zavec to put up a good performance, to shut the mouths of all the doubters. if he does that i'll be satisfied,even if he loses.

Never seen Zavek before. Does anyone who doesn't have a bias either way think he has a real shot at beating Berto? I don't think anybody knows exactly what is going to happen. I have seen a bunch of youtube "commentaries", and everybody keep dodging the real thing. The odds are clearly stacked against Zavec though, I'll tell that to everyone. Berto working with shady guys like Conte and Al haymon smells like horse dung to me. He will also have home court advantage and all that stuff. The only pros Zavec has here is that he had a great camp, and ultimately he just needs to be himself on the fight night. He has fought infront of bigger crowds than Berto, and he's mentally more stable. The video shows Zavec is confident, and in good mood and that's always a good thing for him before fights. Ultimately, Zavec wanted a fight like this by himself, so now is his chance to prove himself. I expect a great fight, and an upset as well.

I like Joel. Always looked like a solid bloke to me.:biggthump Good luck with your return to ww!

Never seen Zavek before. Does anyone who doesn't have a bias either way think he has a real shot at beating Berto?

Berto claims to be "more motivated, more hungry" for this fight than for the one against Victor Ortiz, a fight where he was defending HIS title in front of Floyd Mayweather who was in the crowd, and in a fight where he was a win away from potentially fighting him. But now he is "more motivated and more hungry" to fight Jan Zaveck in Biloxi, Mississippi for the IBF strap a couple weeks before Floyd and Ortiz engage in a true mega-fight in Vegas? Ya, OK Andre. I smell an upset.

I know Zaveck will upset the doubters in this fight. Im betting on him, he will delete Berto in the welterweight mix.

OK, but Mayweather is one of the two biggest stars in boxing and a case could be made that he is the actual welterweight champion, with or without a belt. Still, I agree the way they do the posters these days is all wrong. It's more about how big a star you are as opposed to what belt you have. It would be like if back when Leonard fought Norris, they had Ray on the left and promoted it as Leonard vs Norris WBC Jr Middleweight Title. Oh, they did... http://www.posters57.com/images/LEONARD_VS_NORRIS_002.jpg=600.jpeg :pat:

Perhaps there are two "official" versions of the fight poster but there should only be one, the one you use in your avatar.No, not at all. The one I posted above is clearly the official version, because it has SES Boxing symbol (Zavec's Club) written below. The other one doesn't. I think they had the one in my avatar ready at first, but decided to change it to what it is now. Or they just made this version for the Zavec's website for Zavec's fans. IDK. It's pretty ugly to be doing a thing like that, but Floyd-Ortiz also shows Mayweather as the Champ, even though Ortiz is the actual WBC Champ. http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/680435/mayweather_vs_ortiz_poster_medium.PNG

What can go wrong between the Juice Boss Conte, and Mafia boss Al Haymon anyway? The first one makes sure Berto looks good (and not like a 40yr old Grandma), and the other sends $$$ envelopes around. These dumbasses don't even want to give Zavec proper recognition, so Berto is written as the champ on the official poster lol. http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/684114/zaveck_vs_berto_poster_medium.jpg @Rip Chudd At the official weigh-ins topic, or some other topic closer to the fight. Perhaps there are two "official" versions of the fight poster but there should only be one, the one you use in your avatar. DiBella claims it's "disrespectful" to Zaveck to describe him as "relatively unknown" but they were the ones who put out that poster, which clearly disrespects Zaveck, the defending champion. Will they introduce Zaveck first in the ring the way Holmes was against Cooney? Apparently we should ALL know who Zaveck is because DiBella took a look at him on YouTube a couple weeks ago, and now we all gotta play catch-up, or risk "disrespecting" the champ.

Berto cannot afford to lose this fight against Zaveck. http://fitefansho.blogspot.com/2011/08/andre-bertos-biloxi-blues.html It's an absolute must-win fight for him, and he needs to look impressive and exciting. What can go wrong between the Juice Boss Conte, and Mafia boss Al Haymon anyway? The first one makes sure Berto looks good (and not like a 40yr old Grandma), and the other sends $$$ envelopes around. These dumbasses don't even want to give Zavec proper recognition, so Berto is written as the champ on the official poster lol. http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/684114/zaveck_vs_berto_poster_medium.jpg @Rip Chudd At the official weigh-ins topic, or some other topic closer to the fight.

Berto cannot afford to lose this fight against Zaveck. http://fitefansho.blogspot.com/2011/08/andre-bertos-biloxi-blues.html It's an absolute must-win fight for him, and he needs to look impressive and exciting.

He was probably working Julio's D-class behind in sparring. Berto will win. If you think otherwise put some points up son.

Berto's gonna beat dat ass