I heard pepper roach say that in sparring James toney spanked vitali.
What do you guys think? Is that true?
I always hear toney talking shi.t about the klitschko bros. Maybe it's because he did spank him and he feels confident!
Who wins this fight?
Check the compubox of the Vitali-Byrd match
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa32/lo9991/Vitali-Byrd-1.jpg
If Byrd had success slipping and countering effectively enough to the point where Vitali became so frustrated that he eventually quit on his stool...
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa32/lo9991/Vitali-Byrd.gif
Can you imagine what Toney would do to this clown? We're talking
a lopsided massacre of EPIC proportions!
Vitali would leave the arena on a stretcher.
There's nothing that Byrd can do in the ring that James Toney can't do over 9000 times better.
You are talking about a Klitschko who had had about 25 fights, ALL of which had ended in not more than 2-3 rds, mostly in 1, except 3, but none of which reached 10. He was basically still a beginner, with only 50-60 rds to his credit. The equivalent of 6-8 10 rounders.
And Byrd was definitely a VERY elusive guy, far more than Toney, who used only upper body movement. Byrd was very fast on his feet as well, ans klitschko had fought nobody like him. He STILL won all the rounds except the last, when he had to quit. If it had been a 10 rd fight he'd have won overwhelmingly 9-1.
There's no comparison. Byrd still did very well, but look how badly he went down before WK, in TWO fights, who, although younger, had more experience both as an amateur and a pro. Klitschko nearly beat him to death in the first and KO'd him in the second.
It was a credit to Byrd, whom I've always liked, apart from his religious outbursts, which never did him any good anyway.
Right! I guess I meant a james toney in great shape!
So no shot for toney at all?
You say he's too big for toney, do you see him knocking out toney?
Has toney ever gotten badly beat up?
Yes, Roy Jones beat him up, and Sam Peter beat him up worse, nearly KO'd him, so that he had to hold on to the top rope and steady himself.
There could never be any comparison between Toney and VK. You simple guys have made Toney into a cult figure. Klitschko wouldn't fight him because they'd be accused of killing a midget. They'd slaughter him, both of them. He'd spend all his time trying to avoid a blizzard of punches with KO written on each.
The way they wouldn't fight Holyfield, is why they wouldn't fight Toney no matter how brash his mouth. They were too decent, and had too much respect for themselves to allow such a mismatch. A fat, overaged, slow moving slob with some upper body movement, but zero foot movement. WK is 6'8" Toney 5'9"...............
Im getting the feeling that most of these people only know Toney as the guy that fought in the MMA.
A fat, grotesque, out of shape version of James Toney beat Holyfield, Ruiz, Rahman, and Oquendo.
This same fat horror show aso got robbed TWICE against a prime Sam Peter.
There arent many natural, pure FIGHTERS out there.
Toney was one, and in his prime....would beat the european feces out of Vitali.
You need to go watch some tape on this man. Cause he is one the boxers that DEFINED what pure boxer/puncher was for a long time.
He is fat, mouthy retard now. But is also a hall of famer.
If we assume a catchweight.
Prime Toney at say 190 when be beat Jirov...
Prime Vitali at catchweight of his lightest weight ever at 232...
Toney beats the everloving piss out of Vitali.
In my mind its the best ever defensive and most skilled fighters ever seen....versus a tall, strong, athletic robot who uses physical attributes to win fights.
Toney is smarter, faster, and 100 percent more technically skilled.
He is durable enough to last the early rounds. Takes Vitali deep, and drowns him.
I'm not sure Vitali knocks him out, but it would be a bit of a mismatch size wise. Vitali knows how to use his height, Toney wouldn't even be able to reach him.
Toney was not in his prime as a hw.
As a HW, Toney would not beat Vitali. Toney is severely outmatched physically and Vitali's style thrives on using his size strength and reach advantage over his opponents. He's very good at it.
prime toney at HW? LOL
vitali bya wide UD
skill wise forget it toney by a mile but vitali at HW is too big of a size mismatch
Right! I guess I meant a james toney in great shape!
So no shot for toney at all?
You say he's too big for toney, do you see him knocking out toney?
Has toney ever gotten badly beat up?
you know what? this guys absolutely right.. hes right i cant see one flaw with what hes implying...
its always been one the taller fighter that wins.
f@ck skill. i got HEIGHT!
A couple of inches doesn't mean much. Nearly 1 foot advantage does.
It's like saying a straw weight champ could beat a 220 pound C level HW, they just physically can't....
you are probably one of those people that thinks Bruce Lee could beat Tyson in a street fight
impossible. bruce lee is dead
and please dont make dumbass assumptions like that
but in all seriousness I think vitali is too much for toney, even though i think hes way more skillful..
hes got crazy skills and i guess it wouldnt be out of the realm of possibility for toney to win but i dont see it.. might even get stopped