How would the top fighters of 1991 do in today's current scene.
Would they be champions or are today's fighter better.
Heavyweight
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
How would they do against the Wlad and Vitali?
Cruiserweight
Orlin Norris
Anaclet Wamba
Could they get the better of the like of Tarver, Cunningham, Huck and Lebedev
Light-Heavyweight
Virgil Hill
Charles Williams
Hopkins was fighter when these guys were around but today he the Kingpin of the light-heavy division. Would Williams and Virgil get the better of Hopkins, Pascal and Dawson?
Super-Middleweight
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
How would these two bitter rivals do against the the Super 6 finalist or Bute?
Middleweight
James Toney
Mike McCallum
Would the Bodysnatcher and Toney pre-Burger King cause Sergio some serrious problems
Light-Middleweight
Terry Norris
Would Cotto and the rest of today's light middles trouble Norris?
Welterweight
Meldrick Taylor
James McGirt
Could these two match the best fighter of today, Manny Pacquiao?
Light-Welterweight
Julio Cesar Chavez
How would Khan and Bradley deal with this ATG
Lightweight
Pernell Whitaker
What a fight it could be with Marquez, would Rios or Guerrero prove any challenge for Sweetpea
Super-Featherweight
Azumah Nelson
Does anyone give Burns, Fana and Broner a chance here?
Featherweight
Manuel Medina
Paul Hodkinson
Gamboa, Lopez, Garcia and Salido, quite a talent packed division at the moment. How do Medina and Hodkinson do?
Super-Bantamweight
Welcome Ncita
Would you bet against Nishioka, Montiel, Kratingdaenggym, or even Marquez and Rigondeaux?
Bantamweight
Orlando Canizales
Could Canizales, make an impact in the most talented packed division in boxing today? Could he beat any of the bantam tourney participants let alone Donaire?
Super-Flyweight
Khaosai Galaxy
Could any of today's super-flys beat this HOF?
Flyweight
Dave McAuley
He beat the Duke, but can he beat Segura & Wonjongkam?
So how do you have it?
1991 Take:
Heayweight
Middleweight
Light-Middelweight
Light-Welterweight
Lightweight
Super-Featherweight
Super-Fly
And 2011 Take
Cruiserweight
Light-Heavyweight
Welterweight
Featherweight
Super-Bantamweight
Bantamweight
Flyweight
Can't decide on Supermiddle
7-7 then
How do you have it.
What class is better 1991 or 2011?
Poll coming!!!!!
This is a really good thread. probably worth posting on the boxing history forum.
I think the modern super-middleweights would probably win. I don't think either benn or eubank could really deal with ward and it's an open question as to how susceptable bute still is to pressure and fatigue over 12 rounds.
People will probably disagree with this but I would take the modern heavyweights as well. Tyson is a favourate against wlad but I think vitali gives both of the older fighters big problems. Tyson should win the early rounds against vitali but go the twelve rounds and win?
Also, even though i prefer holyfield to tyson (and think he'd beat mike every day of the week) he has more trouble with the klitschko's than tyson does I feel.
Prince charles williams loses to bernard hopkins probably. From the little i've seen of him I think he relies on his opponent not being able to fully defend themselves on the inside (like tyson). though that's largely supposition. Hopkins is old now and could get outworked but I don't think that's the most likely scenario, the calzaghe fight might be a red herring. He could give dawson trouble despite the seemingly massive gulf in ability. Pascal is very much an underdog.
Toney and McCallum are immense, their first fight together is one of my favourates. I don't like to pick against martinez as he's one of my favourate fighters but I'll have to go with 1991. I think if he's smart he'll be able to rob toney without really engaging him as toney has some difficulty with movers, he's not going to chase you down. But I don't see martinez's power really coming into play, he'll have to go 12 rounds and take breaks. Also, it's 2 vs. 1.
Big names like nelson and whitaker take it for their era. Overall I'm not sure, some of the potential matchups are drawing a blank for me.
edit:
chavez beats bradley, for all his good head movement I don't see chavez doing a whitaker. though that's probably elementary.
Thanks for the feedback and your thoughts. I think both "classes" are evenly matched.
Will take your advice and post it in the history forum.
How would the top fighters of 1991 do in today's current scene.
Would they be champions or are today's fighter better.
Heavyweight
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson
How would they do against the Wlad and Vitali?
Cruiserweight
Orlin Norris
Anaclet Wamba
Could they get the better of the like of Tarver, Cunningham, Huck and Lebedev
Light-Heavyweight
Virgil Hill
Charles Williams
Hopkins was fighter when these guys were around but today he the Kingpin of the light-heavy division. Would Williams and Virgil get the better of Hopkins, Pascal and Dawson?
Super-Middleweight
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
How would these two bitter rivals do against the the Super 6 finalist or Bute?
Middleweight
James Toney
Mike McCallum
Would the Bodysnatcher and Toney pre-Burger King cause Sergio some serrious problems
Light-Middleweight
Terry Norris
Would Cotto and the rest of today's light middles trouble Norris?
Welterweight
Meldrick Taylor
James McGirt
Could these two match the best fighter of today, Manny Pacquiao?
Light-Welterweight
Julio Cesar Chavez
How would Khan and Bradley deal with this ATG
Lightweight
Pernell Whitaker
What a fight it could be with Marquez, would Rios or Guerrero prove any challenge for Sweetpea
Super-Featherweight
Azumah Nelson
Does anyone give Burns, Fana and Broner a chance here?
Featherweight
Manuel Medina
Paul Hodkinson
Gamboa, Lopez, Garcia and Salido, quite a talent packed division at the moment. How do Medina and Hodkinson do?
Super-Bantamweight
Welcome Ncita
Would you bet against Nishioka, Montiel, Kratingdaenggym, or even Marquez and Rigondeaux?
Bantamweight
Orlando Canizales
Could Canizales, make an impact in the most talented packed division in boxing today? Could he beat any of the bantam tourney participants let alone Donaire?
Super-Flyweight
Khaosai Galaxy
Could any of today's super-flys beat this HOF?
Flyweight
Dave McAuley
He beat the Duke, but can he beat Segura & Wonjongkam?
So how do you have it?
HW Tyson and Holyfield
CW Split
LHW BHop
SMW some good fights
MW Toney but we cant underestimate Sergio
SWW Norris
WW Pac and Floyd
LWW Khan
LW Sweatpea
SFW Nelson but Broner is looking promising
FW Gamboa
SBW Rig
BW Doniare
i havent seen any of the new guys below BW
This is a really good thread. probably worth posting on the boxing history forum.
I think the modern super-middleweights would probably win. I don't think either benn or eubank could really deal with ward and it's an open question as to how susceptable bute still is to pressure and fatigue over 12 rounds.
People will probably disagree with this but I would take the modern heavyweights as well. Tyson is a favourate against wlad but I think vitali gives both of the older fighters big problems. Tyson should win the early rounds against vitali but go the twelve rounds and win?
Also, even though i prefer holyfield to tyson (and think he'd beat mike every day of the week) he has more trouble with the klitschko's than tyson does I feel.
Prince charles williams loses to bernard hopkins probably. From the little i've seen of him I think he relies on his opponent not being able to fully defend themselves on the inside (like tyson). though that's largely supposition. Hopkins is old now and could get outworked but I don't think that's the most likely scenario, the calzaghe fight might be a red herring. He could give dawson trouble despite the seemingly massive gulf in ability. Pascal is very much an underdog.
Toney and McCallum are immense, their first fight together is one of my favourates. I don't like to pick against martinez as he's one of my favourate fighters but I'll have to go with 1991. I think if he's smart he'll be able to rob toney without really engaging him as toney has some difficulty with movers, he's not going to chase you down. But I don't see martinez's power really coming into play, he'll have to go 12 rounds and take breaks. Also, it's 2 vs. 1.
Big names like nelson and whitaker take it for their era. Overall I'm not sure, some of the potential matchups are drawing a blank for me.
edit:
chavez beats bradley, for all his good head movement I don't see chavez doing a whitaker. though that's probably elementary.