A death in the ring

everybody loves action fights and KO's but why would you wanna see a guy die in the ring? how could in-ring fatalities be good for the sport? this is a fucked up thread man The UFC has usurped boxing in terms of PPV numbers for one reason alone - the possibility of brutal KOs as a result of the MMA gloves the fighters use, and because they can legally use knees and elbows to render their opponent comatose. How many of those moronic American teenagers shouting "number ONE" at the cameras do you think have any interest in the idiosyncracies of grappling? Surely everyone does what I do, and forwards through the entire UFC bill, ignoring the tiresome dirge of ground and pound, in the hope of seeing a Brazilian lunatic kicking an American's face off in the Octagon? I just feel that boxing needs to react to what is a clear threat to it's very existence, and my "forced to box on" rule change could really be the shot in the arm that the sport needs. At no point in my original post did I say I wanted to watch a boxer die in the ring, I just wondered if it would ultimately be good for the sport in terms of raising profile, bigger viewing figures etc. I personally have always preferred a good cabbaging anyway.

everybody loves action fights and KO's but why would you wanna see a guy die in the ring? how could in-ring fatalities be good for the sport? this is a fucked up thread man

WTF? this is disgusting why is this thread not deleted? and this wank stain has a green rep? I have a green rep as i'm not afraid to speak the TRUTH. It's pathetic how people like you try to police these forums, getting people banned or threads deleted just because you don't like what they have to say. Whatever happened to freedom of expression? Every boxing fan I have ever met would agree that Benn vs McClellan or Eubank vs Watson were truly great (in the proper sense of the word) fights, full of drama from start to finish, and then a funny finish to boot. That the G-Man now has about the same brain power as the fighting dogs he used to summarily execute is surely just an exercise in irony. He might have been good at setting dogs on each other, a truly noble talent that one, but unfortunately he wasn't quite so good at absorbing Benn's BRITISH BOMBS. Hopefully people will stop crying and actually try to look at the important issues raised in the thread, namely i) potentially removing the referee's ability to stop a fighter if a fighter can stand unaided, and ii) allowing boxers who have lost their licence due to brain injury to come back and fight, perhaps in their own dedicated "cabbaged" division? It would seem that boxing controlling bodies have already trialled this approach with Evander Holyfield, so why not open it up to other drooling American fighters? BOX ON.

WTF? this is disgusting why is this thread not deleted? and this wank stain has a green rep? i agree.... cant tell if he is trolling?

OH Lordy I just pissed myself with laughter....the last line had me near crying about sacrificing another American for the the good of the TV figures lol

Now I know this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'. I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport. Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport? a sacrifice? why don't you ask the sports commissions to give swords to the fighters? more interesting huh? life is more precious than gate receipts or ppvs..... otherwise, you just want us to go back to theage of the gladiators...

Now I know this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'. I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport. Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport? You're an idiot.

guys this fat piece of **** has never had a fight in his life .how would he feel if you where near death would he have the same opinion i dont think so.i hate these people that call fighters cowards but have never been in a ring .just **** off You seem to have got yourself so worked up that you have entirely missed the point of my thread. If you want to call the G-Man a coward because he quit then perhaps you should start a separate thread in the forum? Thank you for your interest in my post though.

I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. Wow. I agree with the other posters that agreed that you are a sick ****. Twisted sense of humor lol.

It was a reasonable beating, but to call it 'sadistic' is seriously over-egging it. The reason the fight went on so long is directly linked to Wlad's robotic, repetitive style. He usually grinds his opponents down with the jab/right hand one-two, rather than ending it early with some flashy combination. If Chambers had visibly soiled himself in the 12th when the Doctor's bomb landed, then I would rate the fight far higher, but ultimately I would have to agree with your rather limited summary of the fight.

Now I know this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'. I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport. Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport? guys this fat piece of **** has never had a fight in his life .how would he feel if you where near death would he have the same opinion i dont think so.i hate these people that call fighters cowards but have never been in a ring .just **** off

Now I now this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'. I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport. Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport? U must have loved the fight where the American was a beaten man after 4 rds, but he carried regardless refusing to quit, and his opponent slowly, sadistically, put a beating on him, but not enough to finish him, just enough to carry him until the 12 round, before he landed a shot in the final minute to send the yank to the hospital for the night. Personally i though Wlad v Chambers was a snoozefest though. But each to his own.

There are enough good to great KO's happening, no one should have to die to boost the profile of boxing. Jesse Vargas, Ola Afolabi, Sasso are the most recent spectacular KO's I have seen. We need better more consistent cards, not tragedies. Maybe then, to avoid further tragedies, we could allow people who already have brain damage or mental illness to carry on fighting? Oh hold on, that already happens in the case of Evander Holyfield. I'm sure a Watson vs McClellan fight would draw record PPV figures, purely due to the curiousity factor of such a match up.

TS has been here before with other accounts. Dude is sick man.

Now I now this is a controversial issue. But I was in the pub with some current and past boxers yesterday and the topic of conversation turned to deaths/cabbagings in boxing, and whether in fact another boxer being pummelled into a coma would in fact be positive for the sport, especially considering viewing figures in comparison to the UFC. Some boxing fans would deny it in a public setting, but who didn't love the savage nature of the Benn vs McClellan fight? And who didn't have to suppress an attack of the giggles at the follow up videos showing just how damaging Benn's British bombs had been for the animal abusing American? It's those kind of nights that draw in new fans, not the recent snore fests that have masqueraded as world title 'fights'. I recently felt a bit lonely late at night, so I found Eubank vs Watson II on youtube, and took care of business whilst watching that staggering uppercut from Eubank that would send ultimately propel Watson body-popping over the London marathon finishing line several years later. It's those kind of moments that live long in the memory, and give boxing the mystique that keeps fans coming back for more. The tightening of the safety regulations and early stoppages by referees have only served to drive those same fans away. I personally would like to see the rules relaxed a little, so that boxers are allowed/forced to box on, provided they can stand up by their volition. That way you would be almost guaranteed a huge upsurge of spectacular KOs, and logic dictates that would ensure a huge leap in viewing figures. Although tragic for the cabbaged fighter and his family, they could at least take solace in the fact that their plight has furthered the sport. Would other true boxing fans accept the sacrifice of another American fighter to boost the flagging profile of our beloved sport? There are enough good to great KO's happening, no one should have to die to boost the profile of boxing. Jesse Vargas, Ola Afolabi, Sasso are the most recent spectacular KO's I have seen. We need better more consistent cards, not tragedies.

you have a pretty sick sense of humor because obviously this is a joke...i've never enjoyed watching someone get bloodied like that...i was yelling for them to stop the fight when cotto got beat down by pac...when margo beat him down as well...why in the **** would a ref look at a person like that and continue the fight, i have no earthly idea...so no...i don't think it's good at all for the sport and i seriously hope no one else does... I can assure you that whilst I try to write in an entertaining, sardonic style, this is most definitely not a joke. The ref didn't stop the fights you mention as Cotto was still on feet, throwing the occasional shot i.e. boxing. If Cotto ends up a drooling mess later in life, as least he will know that he didn't quit. Like McClellan.

Well of course I don't like an early stoppage, but bringing up the McClellan-Benn fight is the best thing to do. Nobody wants to see a beating go on like that. I sure don't enjoy watching clips of Ali and Holmes. I'd rather have a fight stopped too early and too late. Sometimes, boxers need to be saved from themselves. There's no need for a fighter to get beaten senseless and/or killed. The Benn vs McClellan fight didn't go on too long, it only stopped as the G-Man quit, and that's a fact. The ref should have given him the 8 count and then forced him to box on. People had paid good money to watch the fight that night.

Well of course I don't like an early stoppage, but bringing up the McClellan-Benn fight is the best thing to do. Nobody wants to see a beating go on like that. I sure don't enjoy watching clips of Ali and Holmes. I'd rather have a fight stopped too early and too late. Sometimes, boxers need to be saved from themselves. There's no need for a fighter to get beaten senseless and/or killed.

you have a pretty sick sense of humor because obviously this is a joke...i've never enjoyed watching someone get bloodied like that...i was yelling for them to stop the fight when cotto got beat down by pac...when margo beat him down as well...why in the **** would a ref look at a person like that and continue the fight, i have no earthly idea...so no...i don't think it's good at all for the sport and i seriously hope no one else does... I find it strange that women watch boxing at all, but I don't really want to get into that entirely separate debate in this thread. But I do find it extraordinary when 'fans' (female or otherwise) who claim to love a sport where fighters are honed into fighting machines in 'camps' for 10 or 12 weeks, then unleashed on another human being with the express purpose of rendering them unconscious with their fists, then take issue with one of the combatants being 'bloodied', or taking 'too much' punishment. It's the whole point of the sport. Why was Corrales vs Castillo one of the fights of the decade? It's because they were beating seven bells out of each other every round. Have a look at all of the 'best fights/rounds of all time' lists and you will see that applies to each and every one of them. At least I, and nearly every other proper boxing fan I meet at fights all over the UK has the honesty and decency to admit that they love seeing boxers taking punishment, and a spectacular knock out will even lift them out of the seats in a frenzy of excitement. Boxers know the risks they face, and that's why we love them. If the next American who comes to Britain to fight, is deposited back on the plane in an adult nappy, then so be it. BOX ON.

you have a pretty sick sense of humor because obviously this is a joke...i've never enjoyed watching someone get bloodied like that...i was yelling for them to stop the fight when cotto got beat down by pac...when margo beat him down as well...why in the **** would a ref look at a person like that and continue the fight, i have no earthly idea...so no...i don't think it's good at all for the sport and i seriously hope no one else does...