Its just a fact. I am a certified boxing genius. Anyone who doesnt have Vitali in their top 10 p4p probably should be banned from participating in boxing discussions. I see clowns like Andre Ward? Bute? Cotto...Cotto? The dudes been brutally beaten twice in his last 6 fights...Khan? Seriously? Uhh...Vitali's beaten more top 10 contenders, more former champs, and he was never savagely knocked out by a journeyman that he refuses to rematch. Here is how dominant Vitali is...people say things like, "I had Vitali losing the first 2 minutes before he knocked out top 10 contender Solis." It has become that hilarious.
Vitali has either KO'ed or won every round against every opponent he's faced since 2003...name another fighter who can say that? Hes won 10 straight fights, 9 being title fights, he's never been down, never trailed on the score cards at the end of a fight and lost twice due to injury. Yet Cotto, who was beaten into submission and ko'ed 2 of his last 6 fights is a surefire top 10 p4per and Vitali isnt?Whats the definition of p4p. And 6 of his last 10 fights Vitali was either outweighed by his opponent, or he was within a pound of his opponent, so hard to say he wins by size alone. He's fought 16 opponents since moving up to the championship ranks who had 2 or less losses, of his last 10 opponents 3 were undefeated and only 2 had more than 2 losses.
So he is dominating like no one else, he's fighting high level competition, he has done it over a prolonged time and his 2 losses came from an illegal punch and a shoulder injury. I dont care if you dont have him number 1, the list is subjective, but if hes not top 10, start watching golf or something, because clearly you dont understand boxing or even simple logic and simply are a mindless sheep who spouts whatever the dbag writers of boxing rags spew.
It doesnt matter what race you are to hate white fighters and support black fighters only and hate on the Klitschkos, funniest thing is looking at your predictions...who gives a **** about what you think about fantasy fights when you cant even pick modern fights.
If it doesn't matter what race I am, why bring it up in the first place??
Whenever you, cunTunney and Steelhammer are about, race always seems to be in the discussion.
Also, if you're having to resort to looking at my fantasy fights, you seriously have ran out of ammunition. :lol1:
Didn't you run away from Jab??
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A racist hater??? A bit rich coming from Mr Apartheid himself. :lol1:
What race do you think I am then????
It doesnt matter what race you are to hate white fighters and support black fighters only and hate on the Klitschkos, funniest thing is looking at your predictions...who gives a **** about what you think about fantasy fights when you cant even pick modern fights.
Hilarious...Bowe, you just continue to expose yourself as a racist hater, over and over again.
Jedi Vader is just another butthurt British retard who picked Haye to beat Wlad.
I'm literally laughing out loud at these pathetic butthurt crybaby haters.
Hilarious...Bowe, you just continue to expose yourself as a racist hater, over and over again.
A racist hater??? A bit rich coming from Mr Apartheid himself. :lol1:
What race do you think I am then????
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How microscopic is yours then for thinking that The Klits could live with Ali, Tyson, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe, etc??
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Hilarious...Bowe, you just continue to expose yourself as a racist hater, over and over again.
Nah, the talent pool has increased 10 fold. I didn't expect your tiny pea brain mind to comprehend this.
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How microscopic is yours then for thinking that The Klits could live with Ali, Tyson, Holmes, Lewis, Bowe, etc??
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lol vitali would beat the so called 70's greats with 1 hand tied behind his back
The sport evolved. You think a football team from the 70's could hang in the NFL today? LMAO
90% of Ali's career was fighting chubby 5'11-6'1 cruisers
So by that logic, had Ali been able to use today's technology and training methods, he would annihilate the Klits even more so than he would as a 60/70's boxer.
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lol vitali would beat the so called 70's greats with 1 hand tied behind his back
The sport evolved. You think a football team from the 70's could hang in the NFL today? LMAO
90% of Ali's career was fighting chubby 5'11-6'1 cruisers
First of all how do we REALLY know Foreman was better than Sanders & Areolla. Was he NOT a one dimensional slugger like those 2 are? Was he NOT exposed by Ali? For all we know Areolla & Sanders would've fared just the same given Big George's EXACT competition that was LITTERED with so many bums IN BETWEEN A few fights against alltime greats. In fact all the greats of the past have the same ****ty names on there resume as Vitali. It's all a matter of opinion as to which comp was better,
They benefit from the fact they had fellow good fighters who MADE there names off of each other. Truth be told if all these past greats were AS dominant as the Klitschko's are NOW.. THERE opponents wouldn't be considered GREAT at all.. the fact that they were all competitive with each other spread the wealth around & ENHANCED resumes.. It's all bs & wHAT the media tells you to think.. you ALL act LIKE THE KLITSCHKO'S opponents are all inferior to the past great's opponents when in reality it;s EXACTLY THE SAME except the Klitschko's are actually fighting the bigger & stronger fighters IN TERMS of size & strength.
Yes, we do know, because he was the best HW in the world at two different times in his life, particularly 20 years after his first reign at 45 years old...hell, he was beating Briggs at 48, and Briggs somehow became a title strap holder in this era and is still getting title shots despite being old himself. I think you can make a fair claim that young Briggs would have beaten Arreola, based on how hard ARreola was dropped against Travis Walker.
the fact that you just suggested that Arreola was as good as George Foreman is absolutely shocking.
After the fact you can criticize any fighters wins. Allow me to destroy Ali's championship run.
1. Beat Foreman, used every trick in the book, refused to rematch him, took him to freaking the Congo for the match, loose ropes etc...
2. Followed it up with giving Chuck Wepner a title shot? Chuck Wepner, 30-9-2, weighing the most he had up until that point, went 15 rounds and knocked Ali down
3.Ron Lyle, coming off of a loss to Jimmy Young, golden age of HW's where guys coming off of losses get title shots. Also weighed the most he ever had in his career
4. Joe Bugner, previously beat by Ali, weighing in 24 lbs heavier than he was in his prime and by far the heaviest in his career to that point, but hey, beating Dante Cane means you deserved a title shot in the 1970's/golden age.
5. Joe Frazier 3, Ali's own people said this fight was a cherry pick. Joe had looked like crap for years, had one eye, Frazier was 10 lbs over his prime weight. Didnt win another fight in his career.
6. Jean-Pierre Coopman- I dont know who this is, but he had lost the year before to Rudi Lubbers, but he avenged that loss by beating Jan Lubbers. Hey, 24-3 with a win over Jan Lubbers...you deserve a title shot in the golden age.
7. Jimmy Young 17-4-2...yet people complain about a 15-0 guy being considered for a shot. Heaviest he had weighed to that point, coming off of back to back wins over Jose Roman, and 10-23-2 Memphis Al Jones...Golden age baby.
8. Richard Dunn, sure he lost 4 fights by knockout in the previous 3 years and his best win was over Bernd August (I dont know who this is), but he deserved a title shot in the golden age.
9. Ken Norton, Ali lost this fight and hes the only legit guy Ali faced in his reign
10. Alfredo Evangelista- 14-1-1, after robbing Norton Ali realized he had to step down in class a bit. So he took on Evangelista coming off of a loss to Lorenzo Zanon...COMING OFF OF A LOSS. Golden age....this would be the equivalent to Wlad fighting Chisora right now...
11. After losing to Lyles a year and a half before and getting UD'ed by a fighter with a losing record 2.5 years earlier, ALi gave shavers a shot. And robbed him. 2nd best fighter in Ali's 1970's reign...also was robbed.
12. Leon Spinks- 6-0-1, golden age...beat Ali for the title. Oh, what an age it was.
Thats Ali's 70's reign right there....trash.
Unfortunately even with your biased spins the fact of the matter is that Vitali's best win in the last 2 years is Arreola. and his best win of his career is over Sanders.
I dont think even you would say that Arreola or Sanders was better than Foreman.
And guys like Lyle who happened to weigh a bit more than usual were obviously not fatasses like Solis or Arreola. I mean, come on.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2009/11/arreola_150.jpg
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/casey/ron%20lyle%20solo%20master.JPG
He'll completely ignore this and try to continue his troll discussion with whoever else is daft enough to all for it.JAB had him all shook up and its still a sensitive subject for him.
Hahaha excellent. :lol1:
He's a typical internet bully.
This doesn't make sense. Heavyweights are considered the best by default being in the top weight class. Why would you put a varsity player (that earned his metal) amongst the jv's?
Brilliant digging out the archives for us Bro. Much appreciated.
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Nobody can crucify pricks like Mr Apartheid, Steelhammer and cunTunney like Jabba can!!!
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He'll completely ignore this and try to continue his troll discussion with whoever else is daft enough to all for it.JAB had him all shook up and its still a sensitive subject for him.
Indeed he did.The thread where he called out JAB5239 was even more hilarious.He actually went to the length of creating a fake facebook account to insult him,threatened him with violence and then backed out and stayed away from the thread when JAB called his bluff.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436603&highlight=antwoord
Brilliant digging out the archives for us Bro. Much appreciated.
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Nobody can crucify pricks like Mr Apartheid, Steelspammer and cunTunney like Jabba can!!!
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Mr Apartheid got destroyed in that thread!!!
Indeed he did.The thread where he called out JAB5239 was even more hilarious.He actually went to the length of creating a fake facebook account to insult him,threatened him with violence and then backed out and stayed away from the thread when JAB called his bluff.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436603&highlight=antwoord
Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis
THE TRUTH
Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.
Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis barely survived the 2nd round, he was badly hurt, holding on for dear life, wobbling everywhere and staggering around the ring like a drunk. Lewis was badly hurt several times in the fight and was getting outboxed, outworked, outmuscled and outlanded by Vitali.
punches landed
Vitali 156
Lewis 102
Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was clearly the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.
After the fight, Vitali intimidated the shit out of Lewis and made him look like a bitch.
All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.
Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.
Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.
Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.
Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.
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George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"
Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"
Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.
Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.
Vitali lost.