Does anyone really believe Cotto ever had a chance against either FMJ or Manny?

cotto pre-marg would never have been competitive with floyd and pac. cotto just isn't on their level. but that's not the point. cotto was a top welterweight when he fought pacquiao and when floyd was the champion at welterweight. whether he had a chance or not is not the point. he was a top welterweight and deserved a fight with either. I can agree with this.

cotto pre-marg would never have been competitive with floyd and pac. cotto just isn't on their level. but that's not the point. cotto was a top welterweight when he fought pacquiao and when floyd was the champion at welterweight. whether he had a chance or not is not the point. he was a top welterweight and deserved a fight with either. Perfect post!!!!

I think it's better to say Floyd beat him than to say "He could've or would've". The history books don't have a section for "If". Cotto will be remembered as one of the top fighters during this era and Mayweather can't claim a win over him. Whether or not people care is another story, but you also can't go around saying Floyd "would've" done this and that to Cotto because inevitably, he didn't prove it in the ring. ^^^ALL that. I've always admired Cotto, I've never heard him make excuses, basically fought everybody at welter except Floyd and Williams, and only one of those guys appeared eager to fight. How much did Margarito take outta Cotto, I dunno, only Cotto does. Cotto was a very solid, really good boxer/puncher. Stylistically, unless you really overwhelmed him, perhaps with bricks in your hands and even then, he'd still give you a run for your money. It's hard to imagine a guy like that not being competitive against either or, under the "ideal" conditions.

He probably wouldnt have beaten Mayweather but I think you guys arent giving him enough credit. He has never lost a fight by being outboxed, he has just lost from being pressured and beaten up. he's good but he's just not good enough against elites like mayweather and pacquiao. floyd would have schooled him.

Cotto would have got the brakes beat off him. Cotto was to slow of hand and feet. For the record the word "GREAT" gets tossed around too easy. Cotto a decent jab never had a great jab. wtf? Cotto's Jab is one of the best in boxing.... If Cotto isn't a 'Great' fighter or is an 'Overrated' fighter why do people keep making these stupid threads about him? If you think Cotto is overrated and not great your clueless. The manny fight isn't relevant in My eyes because of a pus.s catchweight. There was clearly reason why Roach wouldn't fight him at 147 so don't say otherwise. Cotto's fought the best fighters out there and never turned down any of them. He's only lost to a cheater and a catchweight overrated fighter on PED's.

He probably wouldnt have beaten Mayweather but I think you guys arent giving him enough credit. He has never lost a fight by being outboxed, he has just lost from being pressured and beaten up.

I think pre-Margarito it would have at least been competitive for however long it would have beeen worth the scrap! cotto pre-marg would never have been competitive with floyd and pac. cotto just isn't on their level. but that's not the point. cotto was a top welterweight when he fought pacquiao and when floyd was the champion at welterweight. whether he had a chance or not is not the point. he was a top welterweight and deserved a fight with either.

Cotto has only struggled and lost fights when it is fought at a pace and tempo that he is not comfortable with. We know this would not happen against floyd. This being said...do I think floyd would figure out and beat cotto in a different way? More than likely...but I also am an agreement with the guys that say pre-margs cotto would give mayweather a very tough fight, you have to remember, out of the three of them (cotto, pac, floyd) cotto beat by far the best version of Shane, that is a great accomplishment. I think floyd would have had issues with cotto because cotto has a great jab and has great body work, but ultimately you have 2 thinking fighters, one with great technique, speed, skill, defence, and the other guy who is only very good at most of this things. The one thing I know for sure though...the fact that fight didn't happen is a black mark on floyds resume for sure. You are right about beating Cotto beating Shane in 2007. And you are right that Floyd should have fought him.If that is the case then you cannot deny that all of Pac's fights since Cotto have been complete bull****. I consider those just as bad.

Cotto would have got the brakes beat off him. Cotto was to slow of hand and foott. For the record the word "GREAT" gets tossed around too easy. Cotto had a decent jab never had a great jab.

Cotto has only struggled and lost fights when it is fought at a pace and tempo that he is not comfortable with. We know this would not happen against floyd. This being said...do I think floyd would figure out and beat cotto in a different way? More than likely...but I also am an agreement with the guys that say pre-margs cotto would give mayweather a very tough fight, you have to remember, out of the three of them (cotto, pac, floyd) cotto beat by far the best version of Shane, that is a great accomplishment. I think floyd would have had issues with cotto because cotto has a great jab and has great body work, but ultimately you have 2 thinking fighters, one with great technique, speed, skill, defence, and the other guy who is only very good at most of this things. The one thing I know for sure though...the fact that fight didn't happen is a black mark on floyds resume for sure.

People thought he had a chance but I never did. I remember the signs asking for Pac and Mayweather and I would laugh. I said the same thing about Marg, I knew he had no chance even before he fought Mosley.

yes, even the version that fought Manny had some people backing him up.

cotto had a chance against mayweather a few years ago but i would still have picked mayweather. when he fought pac it was a 50/50 fight going in imo. That fight was not 50/50. Cotto was underweight and wasn't the same after the Margarito fight. The fact that Cotto went up to 154 after the Pac fight is telling.

cotto had a chance against mayweather a few years ago but i would still have picked mayweather. when he fought pac it was a 50/50 fight going in imo.

At 147 with no catch weight before Cotto was too big for 147 I think you are right. In ideal conditions he would have been a good challenge for either guy. More of a challenge for Pac in his prime because of styles, but I still think he would have been soundly defeated. There is basically no reason for anyone to say that Mayweather "ducked" Cotto, as if he were really scared or something. I still think he would have been inevitably defeated however if the version of Cotto who showed up that fought Shane things would have looked a lot more interesting in fights with Manny/Floyd!

Alright it sounds like everyone is in agreement on this one. Hopefully we won't hear any more about how Floyd was scared of Cotto and other BS like that.

I think pre-Margarito it would have at least been competitive for however long it would have beeen worth the scrap! At 147 with no catch weight before Cotto was too big for 147 I think you are right. In ideal conditions he would have been a good challenge for either guy. More of a challenge for Pac in his prime because of styles, but I still think he would have been soundly defeated. There is basically no reason for anyone to say that Mayweather "ducked" Cotto, as if he were really scared or something.

I think it's better to say Floyd beat him than to say "He could've or would've". The history books don't have a section for "If". Cotto will be remembered as one of the top fighters during this era and Mayweather can't claim a win over him. Whether or not people care is another story, but you also can't go around saying Floyd "would've" done this and that to Cotto because inevitably, he didn't prove it in the ring.

I think pre-Margarito it would have at least been competitive for however long it would have beeen worth the scrap!