By AA I mean African American. They were always unafraid to brawl, sure some of them liked to fight slick but still never were such pusies as they are today. I wonder whats become of that "ghetto warrior" mentality.:thinking: Only ones that resemble the old fighters today are Cloud, Broner, Chris Henry, Holt and maybe Mike Jones. And I don't like Broner and Henry.
the best large athletes int he states go to other sports
period
the difference is that most of our sports involve big men (average player in the NBA is 6'9 (over 2 meters) and in the nFL he's 6'3" (a hair under two meters)
the best soccer players in the world aren't exclusively HW.
they look to be mostly WW and up to around LHW
and most of the players in the NHL and about half the players in the MLB come from all over the world to play here
an increasing amount of talent is heading to the states to play basketball as well
if big american men stopped going to college level sports and then pro sports like the NFL and NBA and started boxing the states would be neck deep in insanely talented HW
there's really no arguing it.
if you lived over here you'd get it
the rim in the NBA is ten feet of the ground (over 3 meters)
the size and level of athleticism of the men int he NBA cannot be overstated
they would make some of the finest HW boxers to ever live if you took the entirety of the talent pool and found the ones who were born to box
and what happened if you took those same Slav-Europeans who go to Euro Basketball/Wrestling/Swimming/Hockey/other sports? Slav's are naturally taller than Americans (avg height)
If we shut down other sports think how many we could have?
Lets not pretend that Boxing in Russia/former USSR countries is so amazing. its only recently starting back up, half of our Olympic Gold Boxing champs never even turned pro because there were no decent promoters, etc.
You cant say that all your HW's are going to NBA/NFL. You need brains and heart to be good in Boxing. You think LeQuit james wouldve been a good boxer? Maybe for the first 3 rounds then he wouldve quit after he took a punch.
You under-estimate the number of sports and pro leagues in europe. I live in USA/CANADA so I know how crappy the sports coverage is, they show NOTHING.
If you ever go to Europe you will see the amount of sports and leagues there are, everyday there is an event with a diffirent sport on.
Here its the same old crap CFB>NFL>NBA>NHL>MLB > Repeat
http://www.skysports.com/ < click there and there is like 15 diff sports just on main page.
Here in Canada they stopped showing F1 races live, just some crappy replay. Dont show any cricket,rugby, hardly any soccer, no athletic events.
Nobody is even showing the 2011 Aquatic Championships from China, just a 30min highlight show at 1am in the morning.
Even when NBC shows the Olympics its a complete waste of crap as they show nothing live and show "American" athletes only.
This is why I have satellite and grab the Russian/UK feeds, because our coverage in North America for sports is PATHETIC.
The only thing I watch overhere is College Football
and Europeans and Mexicans dont go to Soccer(Biggest sport in world), Hockey,Euroball,Cricket,Rugby,Swimming,Athletics?
That excuse is weak and has no merrit.
"hurr we r weak cuz deyz goings to play NBA"
Well guess what, so is every other country. I know sports coverage in USA SUCKS so you dont see any sports that dont involve americans but there are ALOT of sports in the world, it doesnt revolve around USA.
Soccer, Swimming, Gymnastics, Wresteling, Racing, Handball, Rugby, Basketball (tons of leagues in EU/Asia), NHL/KHL, Baseball(huge in latin countries),Track and Field, Water Polo, Kickboxing (k1), Cricket, Cycling, etc.
So stop making that excuse, HAS NO MERIT.
the best large athletes int he states go to other sports
period
the difference is that most of our sports involve big men (average player in the NBA is 6'9 (over 2 meters) and in the nFL he's 6'3" (a hair under two meters)
the best soccer players in the world aren't exclusively HW.
they look to be mostly WW and up to around LHW
and most of the players in the NHL and about half the players in the MLB come from all over the world to play here
an increasing amount of talent is heading to the states to play basketball as well
if big american men stopped going to college level sports and then pro sports like the NFL and NBA and started boxing the states would be neck deep in insanely talented HW
there's really no arguing it.
if you lived over here you'd get it
the rim in the NBA is ten feet of the ground (over 3 meters)
the size and level of athleticism of the men int he NBA cannot be overstated
they would make some of the finest HW boxers to ever live if you took the entirety of the talent pool and found the ones who were born to box
Kobe Bryant and Lebron are the 2 best basketball players clown.
you seriously think thats the truth anymore?
did you watch he last season?
best player in the league is derrick rose and nobody comes close
lebron james is a *** haha!
capital b with an itch !!
superpoon!
kobe was all that was man and basketball in his prime
he's one of history's great athletes and competitors
but bro i hate to say it but he's lost a huge step
First of all, Asians suck at boxing, after only 1 Asian boxer, they think that they OWN the whole sport and history.
Second of all, who said a fighter had to brawl??? Is it cool to get into a brawl?? If that's the case I think you need to go watch UFC.
white people invented modern boxing
same as white people invented basketbal/QUOTE]
More precisely a Scottish-Canadian college student!:D His name was something like Nesmith or Naismith...
Its because in America you have years of "well if you disagree with me then you are racistm and i am going to hide behind that in everything i do in life" most of these dickweeds who cry racism over everything have no idea what real racism is or what their ancestors had to go through. They just use it as an excuse to look ignorant in all matters they indulge in. I get your thread. Its not all American who act this way, just those who cant man up and accept the fact that someone may disagree with them on something. Like little babies they cry racist or racism when they dont get their way. I blame their overuse of jenkem for this behaviour.
Yea, they just hear stuff they don't like and they act like fukking little kids, calling you names and branding you as a racist. Its pitiful. Thats why they have that freedom of speech, so they can jump at your throat the minute you say something THEY feel isn't right.
You are either black or just trying to look "cool" and "tough". Stop that act, it doesn't become you.:rolleyes: How is this a racist thread when I already gave the black fighters props for being tough and unafraid to brawl IN THE PAST??
Its typical, you just put the name of a race in the thread title and everybody goes berserk on you. Can't stand it, just can't stand it you Americans.:nonono: You just are so fukked up when it comes to race matters.
Its because in America you have years of "well if you disagree with me then you are racistm and i am going to hide behind that in everything i do in life" most of these dickweeds who cry racism over everything have no idea what real racism is or what their ancestors had to go through. They just use it as an excuse to look ignorant in all matters they indulge in. I get your thread. Its not all American who act this way, just those who cant man up and accept the fact that someone may disagree with them on something. Like little babies they cry racist or racism when they dont get their way. I blame their overuse of jenkem for this behaviour.
and Europeans and Mexicans dont go to Soccer(Biggest sport in world), Hockey,Euroball,Cricket,Rugby,Swimming,Athletics?
That excuse is weak and has no merrit.
"hurr we r weak cuz deyz goings to play NBA"
Well guess what, so is every other country. I know sports coverage in USA SUCKS so you dont see any sports that dont involve americans but there are ALOT of sports in the world, it doesnt revolve around USA.
Soccer, Swimming, Gymnastics, Wresteling, Racing, Handball, Rugby, Basketball (tons of leagues in EU/Asia), NHL/KHL, Baseball(huge in latin countries),Track and Field, Water Polo, Kickboxing (k1), Cricket, Cycling, etc.
So stop making that excuse, HAS NO MERIT.
whats even funnier is that the best basketball player is a white german...
I'm amazed by the amount of racist stuff the mods allow on these boards, this is a boxing forum not a race baiting forum! Bottom line is that a fighter's heart, dedication and a little bit of luck determine how great they will be . Not their race, the racist f*cks on this site would probably never act like this when confronted in real life! The mods at Boxing Scene are pieces of sh*t for allowing this.
You are either black or just trying to look "cool" and "tough". Stop that act, it doesn't become you.:rolleyes: How is this a racist thread when I already gave the black fighters props for being tough and unafraid to brawl IN THE PAST??
Its typical, you just put the name of a race in the thread title and everybody goes berserk on you. Can't stand it, just can't stand it you Americans.:nonono: You just are so fukked up when it comes to race matters.
All of the best black heavyweights have been exposed and destroyed by the Klitschkos and other Eastern Europeans. The same thing is happening in many other weight classes too.
Soviets/Eastern Europeans weren't allowed to turn pro until the 1990s because of the cold war/iron curtain.
Now Soviets/Eastern Europeans are allowed to turn pro and we're already taking over boxing.
This is just the beginning of the Eastern European domination.
NFL/NBA is just another WEAK EXCUSE
There are tons of potential Eastern European Heavyweight Boxers who are doing Combat Sambo, MMA, Kickboxing, Hockey, Olympic Wrestling, Olympic Weightlifting, Powerlifting, Worlds Strongest Man Competitions, etc.
America isn't the only country on the planet that has other sports.
Eastern European fighters are superior.
The Klitschkos are the negrocutioners.
Wlad and Vitali are the two greatest heavyweights of all time.
Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.
:nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
I'm amazed by the amount of racist stuff the mods allow on these boards, this is a boxing forum not a race baiting forum! Bottom line is that a fighter's heart, dedication and a little bit of luck determine how great they will be . Not their race, the racist f*cks on this site would probably never act like this when confronted in real life! The mods at Boxing Scene are pieces of sh*t for allowing this.
Adamek got schooled by Tarver, Wlad got KO`ed by 2 black bums and needed a black Trainer to make him great lol.And Vitaly could`nt even beat a old Fatigued Lewis.
The best AA ever in boxing was trained by a white trainer
AA's dominated in a different era. They were mostly fighting each other back then. Once the sport went truly global there was no way for them to keep dominating. Its simple really.
Oh, Eastern Europeans are just as naturally gifted as AA's if not more so. Their natural abilities become very apparent at HW.
For a country so sensitive to racism, you seem really obsessed with race.
yea, this country is obsessed with race. its a fake, made up thing tho, it means nothing to me. my culture is all that matters, and im american in culture no matter how u look at it.
or tiger who looks more like a tanning-salon junkie asian than anything.
is rashida jones black?
http://www.topnews.in/files/images/Rashida_Jones1.jpg
yep she is