One of the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years. Every time he fought someone people bought into the whole Zab myth. And, every time(except for the Spinks rematch) he disappointed people.
His slickness overrated. There has never been anything slick about Judah, his skills overrated. The man skills is average at best. He has/had speed and pop. But, that's more talent than skills. The man was just flashy plain and simple. And, people bought into that flashiness. But, he has/had no substance and was a mental midget to boot.
I'm pretty sure he will fight again. And, he might fight another top guy. Be 'reborn" again. And, some will buy into his hype once again and he will disappoint once again.
Oh and one last thing, how mad is HBO because Judah lost to a "Muslim from England"? :cool2:
The problem is, too many over-praised and placed too much expectation upon him as a young man based solely on his natural athletic gifts.
You're right, he's never been a slick guy. Slickness is about how you put it all together, defence and offence with fluidity and a level of technical know-how. Zab's an unorthodox reflex/power fighter with technical limitations, a herky-jerky kinda fighter. If you put a world class guy in front of him who can 1.) adjust to and solve a problem early or 2.) just walk through and pressure him, Zab's done in the majority of cases (unless some specific variables go his way).
Think what Margarito would have done to Zab, sheeeeeeeeesh.
All that said, his gifts undoubtably made him a good fighter, just a level below the real elites of his era is all. And I've always rooted for Zab the person.
That would have been a destruction.
One of the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years. Every time he fought someone people bought into the whole Zab myth. And, every time(except for the Spinks rematch) he disappointed people.
His slickness overrated. There has never been anything slick about Judah, his skills overrated. The man skills is average at best. He has/had speed and pop. But, that's more talent than skills. The man was just flashy plain and simple. And, people bought into that flashiness. But, he has/had no substance and was a mental midget to boot.
I'm pretty sure he will fight again. And, he might fight another top guy. Be 'reborn" again. And, some will buy into his hype once again and he will disappoint once again.
Oh and one last thing, how mad is HBO because Judah lost to a "Muslim from England"? :cool2:
Three cheers to this post. He was overrated in his prime and now as a faded version, he's still being overrated. Goodbye, Zab. So long. I do not want to see you on TV again.
Judah has been a let down to say the least. He didn't let me down as I was never a big fan but I still probably have expectations that weren't met. A quality fighter always has ONE big skill that he builds his other skills around.
However, Judah doesn't have that. Take away Judah's speed/power, and he's not much else. Slick at times but never consistently enough. Simply a normal fighter, nothing major.
Zab ain't even slick. He is straight clumsy as hell on defense. I haven't seen him parry or use a real guard for years. He just tries to 'get away' from your punches ala Pea, but I don't even want to call it that. and the times he's tried the shoulder roll like he's Floyd is pretty laughable. You can tell he's kind of not comfortable fighting the way he does even if he is being trained by whom he likes.
It's too late, but he needs to be broken down completely, shown basics how to use his gloves to deflect/defend from punches and become offensively oriented in his training. Set up punches, make openings when you don't see any. This is one thing Khan and Manny are excellent at even if they don't look as poised as a Mayweather or something. Judah is one fighter that would thrive tactically under Freddie Roach.
Nah, Zab got his ass beat by one of the best young fighters in the world. Zab had beaten Matts, one of the best 140 pounders, and Mabuza another very good 140 pounder.
Zab would probably do very well against any 140 pounder not Khan or Bradley. Although, style wise, the Bradley fight is very different. So maybe that one would go a bit differently.
I still think Zab is the third best 140 pounder.
Good God man, :nonono:
:lol1:
Nah, Zab got his ass beat by one of the best young fighters in the world. Zab had beaten Matts, one of the best 140 pounders, and Mabuza another very good 140 pounder.
Zab would probably do very well against any 140 pounder not Khan or Bradley. Although, style wise, the Bradley fight is very different. So maybe that one would go a bit differently.
I still think Zab is the third best 140 pounder.
Bradley,Maidana and Matthysse in a rematch beat Judah. I hope he retires.
Winner gets a shot at a major title and PPV against a big name.
Perhaps the winner of Berto-Zaveck.
Neither one will ever get a shot at Pac or Floyd again.
Nah, Zab got his ass beat by one of the best young fighters in the world. Zab had beaten Matts, one of the best 140 pounders, and Mabuza another very good 140 pounder.
Zab would probably do very well against any 140 pounder not Khan or Bradley. Although, style wise, the Bradley fight is very different. So maybe that one would go a bit differently.
I still think Zab is the third best 140 pounder.
I like Judah but I will have to agree, he has had two cop outs since 2008-present, and that's too much.
First one against Clottey, okay, I let him slide, but that was a cop out, but the cut was there and it was something fans can see actually happened.
Second cop out against Khan. Hit on the belt line, maybe just slightly low, but not around the dick or balls. COP OUT.
Judah did good with his 5 fight win streak and winning a title against a tough guy in Mabuza and the way he did it. He also beat Matthysse another tough guy. But, this was another cop out when he stepped up to the highest level, the level in which if he won, he would shut some critics up. But he failed.
He could have 10 losses, Salido does, Corley has more than that, Augustus was born with 20 losses, Glen Johnson has well over 10, but none of these guys really have a loss in which you can point and say, damn, that was a cop out. Zab has two of those, and IMO, that's too much.
Judah has been a let down to say the least. He didn't let me down as I was never a big fan but I still probably have expectations that weren't met. A quality fighter always has ONE big skill that he builds his other skills around.
However, Judah doesn't have that. Take away Judah's speed/power, and he's not much else. Slick at times but never consistently enough. Simply a normal fighter, nothing major.
Maybe so, I don't think this is Khan best win however. So it doesn't hurt Khan resume as such.
Judah is/was one of the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years.
I could see Judah-Molsey happening now.
The fight could be called the Biggest loser.
Maybe so, I don't think this is Khan best win however. So it doesn't hurt Khan resume as such.
Judah is/was one of the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years.
Agreed.....Judah should fight his trainer and retire.
But doesn't this post discredit Khan's victory?
Maybe so, I don't think this is Khan best win however. So it doesn't hurt Khan resume as such.
Judah is/was one of the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years.