Mayweather making a late career legacy push.

leonard retired and came back to take on someone 2 weight classes bigger mayweather retired and came back to take on someone 2 weight classes lower i mean how can you not respect that? Floyd's not leonard and that fighter that was 2 weight classes smaller took Pac (the greatest as some say) to hell and back. So much that Pac (the greatest as some say) has demanded to fight him for a third time AT 2 weight classes higher. Fighting Ortiz is the best option outside of Pac and like Floyd has said, no matter who he fights he wont get credit so what dose it matter? I will have the same conversation with someone else after Floyd clowns Pac in the ring. It will be the same shyt different restroom. Someone will always complain about who he fights.... The bottom line, JMM was winning and P4P #2, Mosley #1 WW Champion who was winning (was ducked by Pac from 140-147) and now Ortiz a young WW Champion that is winning. Clottey, hasn't won a fight since 2008, Margarito was KOed and banned, Mosley technically destroyed and looked even worse vs a boxing reality TV star and now we have a LW being forced to fight at WW where he has never won a fight or even looked good in a fight..... btw, anyone else heard that Pac still hasn't signed the contract vs JMM because of money issues? I hear its because Pac's mad that Floyd's getting paid more money than him (like always).

I definitely have to see that fight with Pacman to solidify his career for me. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130554452430&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

LOL .. dud e he really isn't. If you look at what was happening during the times that you're mentioning , ge's absolutely correct. Floyd had talked about his retirement before he actually retired. He didn't win and THEN retire out of no where. Hatton had just beaten Kostta Tszyu .. a fighter who had lost one other time in his entire career. Tszyu was the absolute ruler at 140, but declined to fight Floyd by demanding a 60% split. Hatton was ABSOLUTELY a better fight. Hatton was chasing Floyd. NOT the other way around! In 2007, Cotto didn't have a notable win in his entire career until November. Floyd fought and took 2008 off in December. How was Cotto a top fighter at that point? Because he got a win over a NAME but not a champion or top fighter? So did a win over Zab Judah make Joshua Clottey a top fighter and make him deserving of a title shot? That's some really faulty logic. Especially when considering that the Mosley win was the last and only meaningful win Cotto had at WW. LOL .. WW tourney? If there was a WW tourney ... who won it? Margarito NEVER had a noteworthy win in career in 2007. He lost to Williams in July 2007. He destroyed Cotto 11 months later, and then got knocked out by Mosley. Cotto NEVER had a noteworthy win in his career until November 2007. He lost exactly 8 months later. Williams beat Margarito when Margarito was a nobody without one notable win in 2007. Then Williams got beat by journeyman Carlos Quintana in his very next fight 7 months later. You really have to make me understand how these guys got to the top. The only one that didn't try to use a fellow unestablished WW as a case as a top fighter was Cotto, because he beat Mosley. But what bothers me is that in this day and age of the MMA fan mentality, there is no factoring in of longevity. Just answer me this: How do you duck a man who can't even ride the success of the biggest win of his career for more than 8 months? Is he really that good? I would say "No". Why? Let's take a look. If you look at Williams, Cotto and Margarito ... each of them won 1 fight that made FINALLY got them a win. Then in their next fight each one of them was exposed in their next fight. My point? Why are you speaking of these guys as if they were important because they got only one win ... 2 of which were against each other? Just because a fighter wins a match doesn't mean that the champion chases the challenger. If that were the case, that means Pacquiao has been ducking since 2007. Pacquiao had the opportunity to fight Williams, Cotto and Margarito while all three were on top and enjoying their one significant win. Did he? Absolutely not. So he was ducking them, correct? Pacquiao was avoiding any and all winning WWs, right? By your logic, Pacquiao was a coward for fighting both DLH and Hatton because Mayweather had just beat them. There were WW champions for Pacquiao to fight yet he chose to fight DLH@145lbs and Hatton who had been knocked out and was at a crossroads of his career. Hence firing Billy Graham and hiring Mayweather Sr. I don't get the logic as to how one course is ducking and the other is cause for comparisons to #1? Double standards, no? I don't agree that Floyd has fought A+ fighters his whole career. That is untrue and I disagree with it. No fighter faces A+/- fighters in every bout. No one division is that rich in talent. However Floyd has always faced the best in every division WHILE THEY WERE STILL ON TOP with the exception of jrWW as I explained earlier. He has consistently sought the best in each division. Not a lot of people can say this and it be accurate. I agree. I think that a fighter not being on another fighter's level isn't justification for him being denied a match. On the same token, I don't think one win(and by one win I mean you didn't have sh!t else before that win) that you can't even hold on to for 8 months makes you a top contender unless the guy you beat is in that position. I don't understand how people don't remember when Floyd challenged Cotto at 140. See, its that little bit of dishonesty that lets a debate like this thrive. Nobody remembers the hyping up of Cotto from the beginning and how Arum and Cotto refused to take that match at 140. Then Cotto comes to 147lbs and all of a sudden Floyd was supposed to run and ask him for a match? http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/articles/1585-mayweather-jr-challenges-tszyu-de-la-hoya-and-cotto Everyone forgot just how unlikely it was for Floyd to be successful at 140lbs. Go YouTube his fight with Chop Chop Corley. Listen to the comments Steward makes. Floyd was supposed to be a 135lbs fighter, not a 140-154lbs fighter. But like Roy Jones, no matter what Floyd does he makes it seem easy, and therefore the critics forget the milestones that he wasn't supposed to achieve but did and looked great doing it. If and when Floyd beats Ortiz, a young 24 year old WBC WW champion, critics will brush that aside and say that he has to fight Sergio Martinez who is a MW. If Floyd fights and beats him, they will say that Floyd has to fight and beat Andre Ward. I hope Floyd remembers the tale of Roy Jones. Critics have no love for Floyd and never will. Jones captured a HW title, but critics pointed out that it was against Ruiz. What they don't point out is that Jones was trying to make that fight against Lennox Lewis. Nothing will ever be enough. The only reason that the critics are giving praise to Hopkins is because of his age. They never gave Winky Wright ... arguably the best jrMW of the last 14 years any credit. Floyd has seen it. I'm sure he knows that he's not going to get the recognition he deserves. He already fought DLH when DLH came in at 170+lbs. If that didn't do it, nothing will. No win over Pacquiao will do it if that didn't. People will say that he was "a small guy" to detract from the win. They will give Pacquiao credit in defeat for having the "heart" to dehydrate opponents. So you're back again with your distortion and lies. Let's see where do we start? Oh yes...1)"Cotto didn't have a notable win in his entire career until November." So, let's just compare stats of Cotto and FMJ in their WW careers: FMJ : 4/6/06 - Judah - IBO/IBF WW title **** 11/14/06 - Baldomir - ret. title **** 12/08/07 - Hatton(a LWW) - ret. title **** 9/19/09 - Marquez(a LW) - non-title **** 5/1/10 - Mosley - no title Cotto : 12/02/06 - Quintana -won WBA WW title **** 3/307 - Urkal - ret. title **** 6/9/07 - Judah - ret. title **** 11/10/07 - Mosley - ret. title **** 4/12/08 - Gomez - Ret. title **** 7/26/08 - Margarito - lost **** 4/21/09 - Jennings - won WBO WW title **** 6/13/09 - Clottey - ret. title **** 11/13/10 - Pacquiao - lost FMJ made only two defenses of his title. One against a no power, plodding B fighter and another to a LWW. On the other hand, Cotto clearly had fought better quality fighters than Floyd's entire WW career. 2) "Margo had no notable wins in 2007." True, but, like most fighters, he had only two fights that year, a UD lost to Williams and a win over Johnson for the WBO title. And, you conveniently failed to mention that after Margo won his first WW title, he defended it 8 times before losing to Williams. After winning against Jonhson, he KO'ed Cintron and Cotto before losing to Mosley. There is no question that both Cotto and Margo have way better resumes at WW than your idol Floyd. They both have shown willingness to take risks and fight the bests. Still, you insist that these two have not proven their worth to merit a fight against Floyd. Look once more to the WW records of these three. IT IS FLOYD WHO HAS NOT PROVEN HIMSELF WITH HIS DISMAL RECORD at WW when compared to the two. You can add Pac's records and it becomes more pathetic. You can say that Floyd has not lost at WW. True, but looking at his record, you can see why. 3) "Just because a fighter wins a match doesn't mean the champion chases the challenger. If that were the case, that means Pacquiao has been ducking since 2007. Pacquiao had the opportunity to fight Williams, Cotto and Margarito while all three were on top and enjoying their one significant win. Did he? Absolutely not. So, he was ducking them, correct?" It doesn't mean a champion should have to chase a challenger. What it means is, a champion should pick (not chase) among the best in his division. Are you also saying that it would be like Pacquiao ducking the top WWs since 2007 when he had the opportunity to fight them? If I am reading you right, then THAT IS A VERY STUPID THING TO SAY! So, it is ducking if Pacquiao does it, but it's not if it's Floyd. To top it all, Pac was not yet a WW during that period. How could he duck these guys when in 2007, he was fighting the likes of Solis and Barrera at Featherweight? He did not officially enter the WW division until Nov. of 2009. Floyd was the WW champion in 2007 when Cotto, Margo, Williams and Shane were the top contenders. Except for Shane, the oldest of the group and three years too late, he has been ducking them since then. Here is an advice for you and here's hoping you take it seriously; GIVE UP POSTING IN THIS FORUM!

I do agree, its good to see him take this challenge, and as much as i dislike Floyd, this is a better fight than Pac-JMM. But, as for his legacy this fight doesnt really do much IMHO.

LMAO!!! Seriously you nuthuggers are blind as fawk! He hasnt faught anyone on their prime in WW. Mosley is old as fawk, he even mentioned that during his interview in espn WTF? Ortiz is sudden on top, after beating an overhyped untested Berto. This is the same person who quit against madaina and has only one at WW. Not to mention a fighter who fits his style. GTFO! Khan... oh please The only two person that would prove to me that he is on the right track is Pacquiao or Martinez. Anything below is a joke in an ideal world we'd all like to see floyd fight manny-and it looks like what with him coming back to fight a southpaw in ortiz.it looks like it might happen next spring-i think its now or never,since manny beat oscar people have been calling for it,then after beating hatton then cotto the clamour grew.that was 2 years ago this nov so even if they fight next april/may thats 3 and half years since manny beat oscar.we'd all be happy if floyd fought manny,khan and martinez but considering floyd has only had 1 fight in each of the last 4 years what are the chances of him facing those 3 in say the next 18 months?

leonard retired and came back to take on someone 2 weight classes bigger mayweather retired and came back to take on someone 2 weight classes lower i mean how can you not respect that?

You are in a way very admirable. Very persistent in fact, but totally blind or in denial. You were shown the WW rankings for a period of three consecutive years where the top five positions were consistently held by the same fighters you denigrated as losers. Repeat, 3 CONSECUTIVE YEARS! These were the same fighters that were considered the most dangerous in the WW division when Floyd was the champion. Yet, you insist that these fighters do not deserve a shot at Floyd. Sure, they had loses, but these loses were against each other. It's similar to a basketball tournament where the teams are so evenly matched that they all ended up with same win/loss record. The 1# position depended more on who won the last time, not on who was the best. That accounted for why none of them held that position for a long period. On the other hand, you have your idol, the defending champion who is suppose to defend his title against the bests in his division. What does he do instead? He picks the guy from the lower division and makes this guy come up to meet him. Sure, the guy is also a champion, but this poor guy is nowhere on the same level as the top WWs that were waiting to challenge this champion. Finally, to make things worse, this "champion" (your idol) decided to retire rather than fight any of the leading contenders. He even made a televised tear filled farewell before the media, saying something like; he is retiring because he doesn't want boxing to retire him. You'd think that that would be the last time you would hear about this champion (your idol). Oh no, not this guy. As soon as he sees another opportunity to earn easy big bucks, he announces his come back. You see, there is this one handed, one dimensional midget who's been making waves in the lower division. That was going to be no sweat, your idol thought. But first, he needed a tune up fight. Now, you'd expect that he'd pick one of the unworthy ones who were the contenders before he retired but who, incidentally, were still the same top contenders a year and a half later. By now, we should be getting a whiff of how this ex-champion's mind operates. So, it should be of no big surprise when he announced that his big return fight would be against the 2# pound for pound ranked fighter, who just happened to be a LW. Yes, a LIGHTWEIGHT! A small, shorter armed LIGHTWEIGHT! Anyway, it happened and that's done, but not before another brilliant move from your idol. Not contented enough with his overwhelming advantages, he added one more by cheating this lightweight in the scales. Now, did he ever get to fight the midget? You see, things didn't work out as expected. That darn midget ruined the perfect plan. The pest kept fighting and blasting the top contenders out of the competition. The same contenders this ex-champion found ways not to fight. The midget turned out to be a bigger threat. Hey, this can't be for real! No one handed, one dimensional midget can ever do that! It must be PEDS! That's right, PEDS! Epilogue: More than two years later, the fight still hasn't materialized. This is a true story. Btw BROTHER JAY, all your listed facts are either distortions or outright lies and they do not warrant any response. Go check the records and educate yourself, that is, if you are capable of learning. See ya.

War Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am saying that if you are not a top boxer(typically top 3) then you are not being considered as an opponent for the best boxer of this generation. If you got knocked out and haven't done anything significant since, then you are not a contender. You see ... that's how rankings work. That's how boxing works. Its not the obligation of the champion to challenge competition. Its the obligation of the competition to rise up to a level where they can challenge the champion. I guess you never learned how King Of The Hill is played. Not only that, its been explained to you ad nauseum that professional boxing is first and foremost a business. If a fight isn't going to sell, unless that fighter is a champion or unusually worthy, that fight isn't going to happen. I see you keep repeating your foolishness. So when dealing with you peasants, I will do as you do. FACT: In the last 3 years and 6 fights, Pacquiao has not faced a champion who wasn't defending a vacant title. FACT: Pacquiao waits until WWs and jrMWs lose before he is willing to fight them. There were no scheduling conflicts. Margarito and Mosley were trying to get fights with Manny for years and Roach flat out refused. Some of it is one video. 6 opponents had to be dethroned before Pacquiao would fight them. FACT: Pacquiao is a three division champion. He targeted 5 vacant belts to attempt to claim that he was an 8 division champion. That is a lie. FACT: DLH, Cotto & Margarito would have NEVER come in at the weights that they did against Pacquiao unless it was stipulated. DLH fought Floyd around 170+lbs. He would have NEVER come in at 145lbs against Pacquiao. Same for Cotto. Margarito was competing for a 154lbs title. Why would he come in at 150lbs when he could easily make 154 and stand a better chance? This isn't an opinion. Its common sense ... something that you absolutely lack. The spider isn't going to stop using its web when trying to catch the fly. No animal gives up their advantages when trying to survive or win. No professional athlete is going to sacrifice their advantages for a match. That's like Lebron tying an arm behind his back during the playoffs. That's like Rafael Nadal tying his own shoe strings together for an entire match. That's like Michael Phelps putting on 30lbs of fat two weeks before an Olympic event. FACT: Beating five 5th ranked fighters and one 4th ranked fighter is not the same as beating fighters ranked #1 and #2. If you are not fighting champions or the best, how does one make a case for being #1? They can't .. and THAT is also a fact. FACT: Agreeing to take any and all USADA tests and then refusing to sign a contract that would make the agreement legally binding makes Manny Pacquiao a hypocrite and dishonest. This is an instance where Manny Pacquiao thought he could beat his chest as if he were king of the jungle, but when called on it he was shown as the lying peasant that he has always been. Another FACT is that Pacquiao has been avoiding taking the USADA tests for years now. We all know it. Its just pactarded peasants that pretend otherwise. FACT: Williams, Cotto and Margarito were only relevant in terms of championship quality threats for a matter of months. Keep in mind that the only year that Floyd did not compete since 1996 was 2008. Williams - finally won a noteworthy fight on July 2007/ lost Feburary 2008 Cotto - finally won a noteworthy fight on November 2007/ lost July 2008 Margarito - finally won a noteworthy fight on July 2008/ lost January 2009 FACT: None of these so-called top boxers could stay relevant for more than 8 months! FACT: Floyd ONLY took off 2008 & was back fighting again in 2009 against Marquez. Which one of these 3 was still on top when Floyd fought Marquez in 2009? LOL ... FACT: Each one of those guys won a title, then lost it and have NEVER been the same since. How does that make them elite competition??? Is this my criteria too? You are in a way very admirable. Very persistent in fact, but totally blind or in denial. You were shown the WW rankings for a period of three consecutive years where the top five positions were consistently held by the same fighters you denigrated as losers. Repeat, 3 CONSECUTIVE YEARS! These were the same fighters that were considered the most dangerous in the WW division when Floyd was the champion. Yet, you insist that these fighters do not deserve a shot at Floyd. Sure, they had loses, but these loses were against each other. It's similar to a basketball tournament where the teams are so evenly matched that they all ended up with same win/loss record. The 1# position depended more on who won the last time, not on who was the best. That accounted for why none of them held that position for a long period. On the other hand, you have your idol, the defending champion who is suppose to defend his title against the bests in his division. What does he do instead? He picks the guy from the lower division and makes this guy come up to meet him. Sure, the guy is also a champion, but this poor guy is nowhere on the same level as the top WWs that were waiting to challenge this champion. Finally, to make things worse, this "champion" (your idol) decided to retire rather than fight any of the leading contenders. He even made a televised tear filled farewell before the media, saying something like; he is retiring because he doesn't want boxing to retire him. You'd think that that would be the last time you would hear about this champion (your idol). Oh no, not this guy. As soon as he sees another opportunity to earn easy big bucks, he announces his come back. You see, there is this one handed, one dimensional midget who's been making waves in the lower division. That was going to be no sweat, your idol thought. But first, he needed a tune up fight. Now, you'd expect that he'd pick one of the unworthy ones who were the contenders before he retired but who, incidentally, were still the same top contenders a year and a half later. By now, we should be getting a whiff of how this ex-champion's mind operates. So, it should be of no big surprise when he announced that his big return fight would be against the 2# pound for pound ranked fighter, who just happened to be a LW. Yes, a LIGHTWEIGHT! A small, shorter armed LIGHTWEIGHT! Anyway, it happened and that's done, but not before another brilliant move from your idol. Not contented enough with his overwhelming advantages, he added one more by cheating this lightweight in the scales. Now, did he ever get to fight the midget? You see, things didn't work out as expected. That darn midget ruined the perfect plan. The pest kept fighting and blasting the top contenders out of the competition. The same contenders this ex-champion found ways not to fight. The midget turned out to be a bigger threat. Hey, this can't be for real! No one handed, one dimensional midget can ever do that! It must be PEDS! That's right, PEDS! Epilogue: More than two years later, the fight still hasn't materialized. This is a true story.

Its extremely important for readers to note that tingtang has a habit of skewing facts to support his arguments. Floyd Mayweather in 2005 came up to WW and defeated everyone who was relevant. He beat the #1 WW and became the #1 WW in 2006. In 2007, Mayweather then fought DLH for the WBC jrMW title. DLH came into that fight weighing 170+lbs. Hatton, after defeating the #1 jrWW who priced himself out of a fight with Mayweather, came up to WW to face Floyd. Hatton wanted to beat the best because he knew without doing so he could not be the best. Floyd defeated him by KO. "FACT: Williams, Cotto and Margarito were only relevant in terms of championship quality threats for a matter of months. Keep in mind that the only year that Floyd did not compete since 1998 was 2008. Williams - finally won a noteworthy fight on July 2007/ lost February 2008 Cotto - finally won a noteworthy fight on November 2007/ lost July 2008 Margarito - finally won a noteworthy fight on July 2008/ lost January 2009" "FACT: Floyd ONLY took off 2008 & was back fighting again in 2009 against Marquez." "FACT: None of these so-called top boxers could stay relevant for more than 8 months!" "FACT: Each one of those guys won a title, then lost it and have NEVER been the same since. How does that make them elite competition???" "FACT: Beating five 5th ranked fighters and one 4th ranked fighter is not the same as beating fighters ranked #1 and #2. If you are not fighting champions or the best, how does one make a case for being #1? They can't .. and THAT is also a fact." You'll get the idea eventually. Try supporting this with a fact. Margarito had already been beaten by Williams. Williams had already been beaten by Quintana and Cotto had been destroyed by Margarito. They had ALL been undone by July 2008. Get real, peasant. When you consider that Floyd had only left in December 2007 it shows just how ridiculous what you're reaching for is. Again "Margarito had already been beaten by Williams. Williams had already been beaten by Quintana and Cotto had been destroyed by Margarito. They had ALL been undone by July 2008." This is NOT even counting the beatings that they took AFTERWARDS by Pacquiao. And now Pacquiao is fighting that LW is his next upcoming fight and Floyd is facing the WBC WW champion, the #2 WW in the world. Marquez only sought a fight with Mayweather because Pacquiao would NOT grant him a rematch. Marquez hadn't aged enough in 2008 for Pacquiao to be ready to fight him again. LOL .. they had ALL lost by July 2008! The only one to gain a top spot again at WW was Margarito by completely beating the sh!t out of Cotto. He was knocked the fcuk out in his very next fight! You see ... that is a FACT! LOL @ 8th rank. A mind truly is a terrible thing to waste. Well ... Margarito was beaten by Williams and then KTFO by Mosley. Cotto was beaten half to death by Margarito and never got above #4 again. Mosley was beaten by Cotto and then dominated by Floyd. Williams was beaten by Quintana and then KTFO by Martinez. Clottey lost every significant match he's ever had. "FACT: Pacquiao waits until WWs and jrMWs lose before he is willing to fight them. There were no scheduling conflicts. Margarito and Mosley were trying to get fights with Manny for years and Roach flat out refused. Some of it is one video. 6 opponents had to be dethroned before Pacquiao would fight them." Nope. It wasn't Floyd. Floyd only fought the #1 and is fighting the #2 WW champions. Pacquiao gets the distinction of fighting five 5th ranked boxers and one 4th ranked. Yeah ... Manny's really taking chances and conquering at the top! Foolish peasant. Hahahahaha ... a better question is who does the following apply to? "FACT: Beating five 5th ranked fighters and one 4th ranked fighter is not the same as beating fighters ranked #1 and #2. If you are not fighting champions or the best, how does one make a case for being #1? They can't .. and THAT is also a fact." P.S. Here's a hint: midget. Hahahahahahahahaha I was not jesting when I told you that you were beneath me, peasant. Whenever you get confused again, just click the following link to find the proper perspective: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10894083&postcount=212 Give it up. You're fighting a lost cause. You're using a boxer's losses as a justification to avoid a fight. That is lame. Imagine all the great fights in the history of boxing that would not have been made if boxing greats all think the way Floyd thinks. Think of Ali/Frazier, for one. Hearns/Hagler for another. Floyd's record says it all. From 2007, when the WW was the hottest division, to the present, Floyd fought these Fighters: 1) Hatton = A LWW and in no way in the caliber of the top WWs at that time. 2) Marquez = A LW who, besides being cheated at the scales, was not, by a long shot, a threat in the WW division. 3) Mosley = 39 years old and way past prime. You can try and spin it as much as you want, but it will not change the one simple fact; the records show clearly that these boxers whom you try to degrade, were the biggest threats to Floyd, but he chose to retire rather than fight them. That, in plain and simple language, is a DUCK!

LOL at the Floyd haters here....:lol1: beef is only good if you're in the burger business!!!

Dunno why the fark everyone hyping up Ortiz. He beat overrated berto and almost got KOed himself. He got owned by Maidana and drew with Patterson. WOW WHAT LEGACY IS MAYWEATHER CREATING WTF? BLIND FLOMOS

LOL at the floyd lovers here....:lol1: Floyd's a fraud. End of.

Weak as ass more so late in his career. Sorry, I should have added his welter resume, compared to the best welters of the past 15 years. Though his 140 resume is just as weak

Margarito also fought Clottey, Cintron twice, Paul Williams, young Sexy Sergio. Guy really has fought the best opposition out of all of his peers. Can't believe these clowns are calling him a bum. Cotto also fought top 10ers Quintana, Judah. Pac fought top 10 Clottey. Mosley fought Forrest and De La Hoya, Collazo. Mayweather's resume is weak as **** compared to the best welters of the past 15 years. Weak as ass more so late in his career.

Floyd making a late legacy push? Well, let us take a look of his last few fights after his retirements and vacations. Floyd Mayweather, a full pledge welterweight since 2005. He fought the following fighters. light welterweight Hatton lightweight Marquez past his prime Mosley I don't think this guys will push Mayweather legacy at all and now he is fighting Ortiz with just 1 fight @ WW to boot? These are the fights of top 4 Welterweights happened in front of his nose (Floyd), find the missing duck here. Cotton fought Mosley, Margarto and Pacquiao Margarito fought Mosley, Cotto and Pacquiao Mosley fought Cotto, Margarito and Pacquiao Pacquiao fought Cotto, Margarito and Mosley Margarito also fought Clottey, Cintron twice, Paul Williams, young Sexy Sergio. Guy really has fought the best opposition out of all of his peers. Can't believe these clowns are calling him a bum. Cotto also fought top 10ers Quintana, Judah. Pac fought top 10 Clottey. Mosley fought Forrest and De La Hoya, Collazo. Mayweather's resume is weak as **** compared to the best welters of the past 15 years.

Floyd making a late legacy push? Well, let us take a look on his last few fights after his retirements and vacations. Floyd Mayweather, a full pledge welterweight since 2005. He fought the following fighters. light welterweight Hatton lightweight Marquez past his prime Mosley I don't think this guys will push Mayweather legacy at all and now he is fighting Ortiz with just 1 fight @ WW to boot? These are the fights of top 4 Welterweights happened in front of his nose (Floyd), find the missing duck here. Cotton fought Mosley, Margarto and Pacquiao Margarito fought Mosley, Cotto and Pacquiao Mosley fought Cotto, Margarito and Pacquiao Pacquiao fought Cotto, Margarito and Mosley

This is for the following: Qadashbanyah Brother Jay Mind Bat Wess Look, read and use your collective brains. Ring Magazine WW rankings for 2007, 2008 and 2009: 2007 : Champion = Floyd Mayweather 1) Miguel Cotto 2) Paul Williams 3) Shane Mosley 4) Antonio Margarito 2008 : Champion = vacant 1) Antonio Margarito 2) Miguel Cotto 3) Shane Mosley 4) Joshua Clottey 5) Manny Pacquiao 2009-Nov. 19 : Champion = vacant 1) Manny Pacquiao 2) Shane Mosley 3) Floyd Mayweather 4) Miguel Cotto 5) Joshua Clottey 6) Antonio Margarito 7) Andre Berto 2011-July : Champion = vacant 1) Manny Pacquiao 2) Victor Ortiz 3) Andre Berto 4) J. Zaveck 5) V. Senchenko 6) J. Wicz 7) Mike Jones 8) Shane Mosley For three consecutive years, these boxers whom you call bums, have been ranked in the top six of the WW division. 2007 up to the middle part of 2009 were the years when the WW division was considered the hottest division. Between 2007 and 2008, these three/four guys were fighting each other trying to gain supremacy in the division. Unfortunately, each ended up with a 1/1 record, creating a stalemate. In spite of this, these boxers stayed in the top four positions. They were not, in any sense, considered washed out. In 2009, two guys broke their hold on the top four positions, with Pac's victory over Cotto, and Floyd by virtue of a win against a LW. 2010/11 was when these four boxers were finally booted out of the top rankings. Two decided to continue their campaign in the next higher division, where one became the #1. A third has not been heard of since his last loss. The fourth still managed to cling to the 8th position, but with his future in jeopardy. Now to you guys whom I addressed this post to, a question; What is the common denominator among these four fighters? What or who forced them out of the WW rankings and made them look like bums? It is definitely not Floyd, since he fought only one of them. It could not be Berto or Ortiz either, because neither faced any of the four and these two practically moved up in the rankings by default. So what is it, guys? I leave you guys to figure this one out. I know you can do it! P.S. Here's a hint: midget.

Off topic: Anyone know the name of the soundtrack?

Too much trash here to warrant a response. Actually its facts with opinions about the facts.