if it already hasnt. I think Floyd does truly 100% want to fight Pac and I think he was dead serious when he was saying that Pac was next. There is no other fight right now that could him hyped or make enough money to compete with it "except" for 1. Khan is the only exception. I think Floyd made those comments because he looked at Khan as more of a future opponent but with the way Khan, Roach, & GBP have been talking lately, I think he see's the fight as being legit right now.
Therefore I dont think you will hear Floyd talk as much about fighting Pac next anymore. Ive already been looking and I already think there's been a very suttle change. I think he may even regret saying it in the 1st place. However, there are still some problems. At 1st Khan & Roach were talking about the end of 12 and that would be too long for Floyd to sit idle again. The Pac fight woulnt happen to mid 13 at the earliest then. He would take alot of heat between now & then.
Since then though both Khan & Roach are now starting to say mid 12 which is when most thought the Pac fight would be. Floyd could easily fight Pac 1st but why do that? The Pac fight is almost like the pinnacle. You dont want to fight Pac, have the boxing air go down some and then fight Khan. You be better off fighting Khan 1st, let Pac fight someone like Bradley, and then the 2 meet in the summer of 12 for the big fight.
Not only that but it gives Floyd what his uncle & dad want which is more fights before a Pac fight to knock off the inactivity & rust. He may have hurt himself by talking more about the Pac fight this time around because thats all the fans & media will talk about from now on and espically after the Ortiz fight. I dont think the mainstream will be sold on a Khan fight at 1st and Floyd will take alot of heat but then the fight would build huge interest when they find out that Khan is trained by Roach, Roach wants the fight, Khan is a guy alot think could win, he spars with Pac, and most of all the fight will be in Wembley.
I think if not in the UK then the mainstream still might feel iffy about it and rip Floyd but if he goes there then that will intrique alot of boxing fans, espically if they are 100% sure that both Floyd & Pac are fighting fresh new talent like Ortiz, Khan, & Bradley or Jones while also are letting it be known that they will fight eachother next. Ofcourse none of this happens unless all these guys win all there fights ahead of time which is no gimmie. Zab could give Khan hell, Ortiz could give Floyd hell, JMM could give Pac hell, Brooke or whoever could give Khan problems, Bradley or Jones could give Pac problems, and Khan could give Floyd hell.
At the end though, I think Floyd's tune will soon change if it already hasnt but I dont think he should be ripped for it, atleast not by boxing fans. We all know that Floyd-Khan is a big & legit fight espically if its in the UK and we want to see Pac fight a young lion in the meantime like a Bradley or Jones. Then the 2 best meet for the Super fight. Its a perfect setup to me
Suddenly they're pushing Khan on Floyd. Why? 'Cause Freddie thinks Khan is a better boxer than Manny?
Are they trying to use Khan as a guinea pig to see if if they can mold Manny's style to Khan's if Khan is successful at giving Floyd problems, but not necessarily beat him?
Everybody knows the infamous Team Pacquiao excuses for not fighting Floyd.
The truth has been out for the longest. Floyd should just move on without Pacquiao and their delay playing games.
if it already hasnt. I think Floyd does truly 100% want to fight Pac and I think he was dead serious when he was saying that Pac was next. There is no other fight right now that could him hyped or make enough money to compete with it "except" for 1. Khan is the only exception. I think Floyd made those comments because he looked at Khan as more of a future opponent but with the way Khan, Roach, & GBP have been talking lately, I think he see's the fight as being legit right now.
Therefore I dont think you will hear Floyd talk as much about fighting Pac next anymore. Ive already been looking and I already think there's been a very suttle change. I think he may even regret saying it in the 1st place. However, there are still some problems. At 1st Khan & Roach were talking about the end of 12 and that would be too long for Floyd to sit idle again. The Pac fight woulnt happen to mid 13 at the earliest then. He would take alot of heat between now & then.
Since then though both Khan & Roach are now starting to say mid 12 which is when most thought the Pac fight would be. Floyd could easily fight Pac 1st but why do that? The Pac fight is almost like the pinnacle. You dont want to fight Pac, have the boxing air go down some and then fight Khan. You be better off fighting Khan 1st, let Pac fight someone like Bradley, and then the 2 meet in the summer of 12 for the big fight.
Not only that but it gives Floyd what his uncle & dad want which is more fights before a Pac fight to knock off the inactivity & rust. He may have hurt himself by talking more about the Pac fight this time around because thats all the fans & media will talk about from now on and espically after the Ortiz fight. I dont think the mainstream will be sold on a Khan fight at 1st and Floyd will take alot of heat but then the fight would build huge interest when they find out that Khan is trained by Roach, Roach wants the fight, Khan is a guy alot think could win, he spars with Pac, and most of all the fight will be in Wembley.
I think if not in the UK then the mainstream still might feel iffy about it and rip Floyd but if he goes there then that will intrique alot of boxing fans, espically if they are 100% sure that both Floyd & Pac are fighting fresh new talent like Ortiz, Khan, & Bradley or Jones while also are letting it be known that they will fight eachother next. Ofcourse none of this happens unless all these guys win all there fights ahead of time which is no gimmie. Zab could give Khan hell, Ortiz could give Floyd hell, JMM could give Pac hell, Brooke or whoever could give Khan problems, Bradley or Jones could give Pac problems, and Khan could give Floyd hell.
At the end though, I think Floyd's tune will soon change if it already hasnt but I dont think he should be ripped for it, atleast not by boxing fans. We all know that Floyd-Khan is a big & legit fight espically if its in the UK and we want to see Pac fight a young lion in the meantime like a Bradley or Jones. Then the 2 best meet for the Super fight. Its a perfect setup to me
very good post..........
floyd may have just placed himself in a more uncomfortable position by saying pac is next after ortiz...though it may just be in the heat of trying to sell the vic fight.....
considering his closest of kin believes floyd needs more tune up fights b4 pac, floyd's "pac you're next" likely just added pressure to floyd himself and to his team.......
fans would likely not be very understanding if floyd fight any one not named pacman right after vic....
floyd's position on the ost issue is getting stale and being undermined by floyd's failure to submit a deposition in court...
posturing for a floyd khan fight this early is testing the waters/the public's acceptance of this match-up...over the pac floyd fight happening first....
fortunately for floyd, arum and roach appears to be playing along with the idea...
and the master plan might be to squeeze both pac and floyd to the max b4 their expected epic duel......
Uh, nevermind about this thread now. If Im Floyd then I would fight Pac 1st instead. Thats how good Khan looked tonight. I was the 1st one on here to call Zab done, even when he stopped that dude with that beast uppercut in the 2nd round I thought he looked like crap when everyone was sweating him. With that being said, you can just look at a guy and tell when it clicks and it clicked.
I thought Ward was all hype and looked like crap his whole career until he fought Miranda and you could tell it clicked. He's looked like a different guy ever since. The same with Khan tonight. This was the best he's ever moved, his chin was strong, he looked confident, and he's in beast mode. I want it after Pac now. Even if Pac is better, which you still have to give him the benefit, the Khan fight just is perfect "after" Pac in Wembley. Then he can either retire or finish with Martinez
nope khan vs mayw ISNOT a legit fight!! wont be for awhile.. esp if khan struggles w Zab!! at the least... they need to stick to the plan of khan cleaning the division... if he can.. then take a fight or two at WW against Berto Ortiz Mosley strong and or quick punchers. Before an actual Mayw fight.. the only way i see mayw fighting khan is as an big Exit fight... due to it will be in England.. in a big stadium w LOTS of Khan and MayW English fans.. thaats bout it thoo.
Bradley's not going to fight him before he gets a Pac or Floyd fight so the division will be cleaned out if he beats Zab tonight. Then he could fight those WW's that you say but why risk that fight when you can fight Floyd for 10x more money?
Well, Mayweather change his tone already, he now wants to fight Khan.
Mayweather is actually relieved and jumped on the fight kahn bandwagon faster then you could say Manny.
if it already hasnt. I think Floyd does truly 100% want to fight Pac and I think he was dead serious when he was saying that Pac was next. There is no other fight right now that could him hyped or make enough money to compete with it "except" for 1. Khan is the only exception. I think Floyd made those comments because he looked at Khan as more of a future opponent but with the way Khan, Roach, & GBP have been talking lately, I think he see's the fight as being legit right now.
Therefore I dont think you will hear Floyd talk as much about fighting Pac next anymore. Ive already been looking and I already think there's been a very suttle change. I think he may even regret saying it in the 1st place. However, there are still some problems. At 1st Khan & Roach were talking about the end of 12 and that would be too long for Floyd to sit idle again. The Pac fight woulnt happen to mid 13 at the earliest then. He would take alot of heat between now & then.
Since then though both Khan & Roach are now starting to say mid 12 which is when most thought the Pac fight would be. Floyd could easily fight Pac 1st but why do that? The Pac fight is almost like the pinnacle. You dont want to fight Pac, have the boxing air go down some and then fight Khan. You be better off fighting Khan 1st, let Pac fight someone like Bradley, and then the 2 meet in the summer of 12 for the big fight.
Not only that but it gives Floyd what his uncle & dad want which is more fights before a Pac fight to knock off the inactivity & rust. He may have hurt himself by talking more about the Pac fight this time around because thats all the fans & media will talk about from now on and espically after the Ortiz fight. I dont think the mainstream will be sold on a Khan fight at 1st and Floyd will take alot of heat but then the fight would build huge interest when they find out that Khan is trained by Roach, Roach wants the fight, Khan is a guy alot think could win, he spars with Pac, and most of all the fight will be in Wembley.
I think if not in the UK then the mainstream still might feel iffy about it and rip Floyd but if he goes there then that will intrique alot of boxing fans, espically if they are 100% sure that both Floyd & Pac are fighting fresh new talent like Ortiz, Khan, & Bradley or Jones while also are letting it be known that they will fight eachother next. Ofcourse none of this happens unless all these guys win all there fights ahead of time which is no gimmie. Zab could give Khan hell, Ortiz could give Floyd hell, JMM could give Pac hell, Brooke or whoever could give Khan problems, Bradley or Jones could give Pac problems, and Khan could give Floyd hell.
At the end though, I think Floyd's tune will soon change if it already hasnt but I dont think he should be ripped for it, atleast not by boxing fans. We all know that Floyd-Khan is a big & legit fight espically if its in the UK and we want to see Pac fight a young lion in the meantime like a Bradley or Jones. Then the 2 best meet for the Super fight. Its a perfect setup to me
nope khan vs mayw ISNOT a legit fight!! wont be for awhile.. esp if khan struggles w Zab!! at the least... they need to stick to the plan of khan cleaning the division... if he can.. then take a fight or two at WW against Berto Ortiz Mosley strong and or quick punchers. Before an actual Mayw fight.. the only way i see mayw fighting khan is as an big Exit fight... due to it will be in England.. in a big stadium w LOTS of Khan and MayW English fans.. thaats bout it thoo.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6Sg3jRT4yNo/S90dizS3VdI/AAAAAAAAARA/F-m6XQ1owjQ/s320/1mayweather.jpg
dont u think that his stance attracts the right hand over the top
http://i43.tinypic.com/2psixa8.jpg
even with the patented shoulder block/roll
Yup, Brother Naazim already showed the world that with an ancient Shane Mosley who couldn't pull the trigger :lol1:
And why do idiots keep saying it's Roach 'pushing' Khan to fight Floyd? You clowns do realize that Freddie is just a trainer and not a matchmaker or Golden Boy Executive right? The reason Floyd and Amir have a verbal agreement to fight already has nothing to do with Freddie. Send your complaints to Schaefer.
This is what Floyd had to say on the matter in his most recent interview (after he said Manny was 'next' and after Arum, once again, let everyone know full OST was no problem):
"I am not worried about the Pacquiao thing at all. I can do whatever I want in this sport. Floyd Mayweather is in the sport to give great performances. And I must be happy myself before I can make anyone else happy.
How long will it take for people to finally realize that the man never had and will never have any inkling to step in the ring with Manny?
Mayweather-Khan at Wembley in 2012 will be Floyd's one fight for the year if he is not tied up in court proceedings/jail. Been saying this since the 'vacation' ended, both sides (Khan/Mayweather) have made it clear that is the plan and they've already agreed to everything. Stevie Wonder can see this...
And of course, Khan will agree to the OST. The reason is Khan has no leverage power like Pac.
STFU
Your implying floyd is read minds and he knew they would decline testing even though they verbally agreed before negotiations. Explain that one?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6Sg3jRT4yNo/S90dizS3VdI/AAAAAAAAARA/F-m6XQ1owjQ/s320/1mayweather.jpg
dont u think that his stance attracts the right hand over the top
http://i43.tinypic.com/2psixa8.jpg
even with the patented shoulder block/roll
when fighters are out of range they are in a relax stance. he was out of rang so there was no need to put his hands up.
If Floyd and Manny both win their next fights they need to fight each other next. Guys like Khan and Bradley will be around they're not going anywhere. Floyd and Manny are no spring chickens.
why they want to throw amir in the hat right after floyd calls manny out. their doing and awful lot of scrambling off a simple comment.
manny talking bout lawsuit might get in the way
roach saying he'll probably fight khan before pac
arum usada isn't neutral
koncz fired,wait no he isn't
timothy james- heads will roll
marley james is a former steroid user.
wtf? is going on
It's Roach & Arum pulling a slight of hand trick on boxing fans, they kept saying Pac Pac Pac, until May came back and chose to fight a serious opponent, the fight seems closer then ever to possibly being made, now it's all Khan, Khan, Khan. Why? because IMHO they've run out of excuses on why Pac wont take the tests and make the fight happen.
It was all about Pac willing to do this and that while May was retired, now it's all about Khan.
Floyd fighting Khan puts all end to a Pacquiao fight.
what? Why is that? Why cant Pac fight a guy like Bradley or Jones like Arum is talking about while Floyd fights Khan around the same time and they meet at the end of 12 or very very early 13. Trust me, I wouldnt complain at all if Pac is next but I dont think anyone in Floyd's position would turn down the Khan fight if offered 1st
Roach wishes for Khan to fight Mayweather first to figure out a gameplan. Khan is the guinea pig.
Cock Roach gameplan when he was with DLH vs Mayweather was to Flury and steal rounds. Cock Roach will have the same gameplan vs Mayweather except that Pacquiao can't cut the ring off like DLH nor does he have the size. Pacquiao is a dead duck. :boxing::boxing::boxing:
Nah, I like it. Id rather see that fight 1st if everything plays out well but there is alot of different things to play out. I know what you mean though but if they are offering then Floyd would probably be dumb not to take that fight 1st, as long as its by May or June. If longer then that then I think he has to fight Pac 1st
why they want to throw amir in the hat right after floyd calls manny out. their doing and awful lot of scrambling off a simple comment.
manny talking bout lawsuit might get in the way
roach saying he'll probably fight khan before pac
arum usada isn't neutral
koncz fired,wait no he isn't
timothy james- heads will roll
marley james is a former steroid user.
wtf? is going on
tell roach and his team to stop pushing khan on mayweather.
Nah, I like it. Id rather see that fight 1st if everything plays out well but there is alot of different things to play out. I know what you mean though but if they are offering then Floyd would probably be dumb not to take that fight 1st, as long as its by May or June. If longer then that then I think he has to fight Pac 1st