Everybody in my gym tries to kill each other in the ring

I would think it is pretty common in most gyms homie. When I used to box in high school I would go to school, rush to the gym, get my ass whooped, come home and do HW lumped up. My trainer (who was also my older cousin) used to always make everyone go hard on me just to see if I would quit but I never gave him the satisfaction. You seem like you won't quit and trust me when I say eventually you will be doing all the ass whooping and you won't even realize it. It will just........happen.

just change your gym. if that happens with beginners, this clearly show the level of boxing there and careless of trainers. in my city, our muay-thai gyms are in top15 in the world. and pros, never even spar with beginners. beginners can't go crazy. Strong discipline and respect for everyone. People learn technique, not aggression etc. this is just example of what gym you should look for. personally, i'd say the champs in your gym to calm down, they might be better in the ring..but outside you can get them. good luck

sounds like home i love the heated sparring,do this and the fight becomes easy

my buddy actually joined at the same time as me and has the exact same amount of experience and is very similar physically, but other than him this kid with 7 years experience is the only kid big enough for me to spar with. It wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't head hunting will all due respect that's rubbish. for the day in day out sparring you can have young kids in with big men and both can still work on different skills. for example a young, light kid will have very fast hands but not hit hard so a bigger boxer can practice his defence real well. you can even spar full contact as long as it's kept very light. yeah fair enough you can't do that for the full on preparatory sparring for before fights but you said you've only just started training right? why would you be sparring full on when you haven't learnt to box fully? how many different defences do you honestly actually manage to use in one of your sparring sessions? how often do you manage to defend and counter? probably not at all. if i'm wrong stick a video up. i'm not meaning to be a pain, i'm just saying it's a sure fire way to become quite limited unless you have some real natural talent and take advantage of every new kid when you start to become more experienced yourself. how many defences could you learn and practice during light sparring or throwing hard but only working on specific tasks? loads. so then once you're good and comfortable with all that (which takes a fair while as there is a lot to work on) then you can step it up and probably box pretty nicely, you'll not get beaten up every time that's for sure.

In a sparring match between 2 PRO's you only go 60-80% (depending who has the fight). For amateurs and kids just starting out? 50-60% MAX, against a NEW kid who just started sparring? 30-40%. The guy who you sparred with is a retard, a sparring session is not there to show who can knock out who, its there for technique/pace. What kind of retarded trainer puts in a newbie against a dude with 7 years experience and lets him beat on you? You should join a gym where they know what they are doing. my buddy actually joined at the same time as me and has the exact same amount of experience and is very similar physically, but other than him this kid with 7 years experience is the only kid big enough for me to spar with. It wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't head hunting

Those guys were getting paid for that I guess yeah, I'm sure the guys Tyson knocked over were well compensated.

This isn't all that uncommon I wouldn't think. Mike Tyson used to KO sparring partners with regularity. Those guys were getting paid for that I guess

In a sparring match between 2 PRO's you only go 60-80% (depending who has the fight). For amateurs and kids just starting out? 50-60% MAX, against a NEW kid who just started sparring? 30-40%. The guy who you sparred with is a retard, a sparring session is not there to show who can knock out who, its there for technique/pace. What kind of retarded trainer puts in a newbie against a dude with 7 years experience and lets him beat on you? You should join a gym where they know what they are doing. haha :D ****in retard. this percent **** is just ridiculous :D

In a sparring match between 2 PRO's you only go 60-80% (depending who has the fight). For amateurs and kids just starting out? 50-60% MAX, against a NEW kid who just started sparring? 30-40%. The guy who you sparred with is a retard, a sparring session is not there to show who can knock out who, its there for technique/pace. What kind of retarded trainer puts in a newbie against a dude with 7 years experience and lets him beat on you? You should join a gym where they know what they are doing.

not a very good way of doing things at all. boxing isn't just about being tough. it's about hitting and not getting hit. how you going to do that against someone more experienced who's going all out at you? by covering up or running. that ain't gonna teach you much. try and box and get battered about, broken noses all the time? great. just like you wouldn't send someone down a big highway for their first driving lessons, stick a kid in a concert when he's just started to play an instrument, etc etc why stick a kid in to box when he actually CAN'T box yet? until you are actually have the skills required to box the guy you're going in with then you shouldn't be in there for a full on sparring session. all you learn is how to cover up and try to get out of the way and how to get your nose broken, none of which is boxing, it's receiving a beating and trying to survive it and come back better next time. nah, you need to learn how to block and counter, how to slip, how to parry etc etc, which if you get caught pretty much every time you try that means you'll just revert to blocking with both hands and development will be very slow and painful. building it up bit by bit, working on different elements (eg one guy throwing a jab, the other using a variety of defences before countering with the right, etc etc etc) means that you can learn all the skills without getting battered about and then take those skills and confidence in those skills, into the ring and spar properly and actually look like a boxer and not just some poor b*stard who's being sacrificed to big up the ego of someone else.

I don't like to see that sh1t at my gym either. Banging doesn't make you a better fighter. When you spar new guys you don't go hard at them. You spar with them so they can get use to being in the ring. Once they develop their skills then you can go hard. Only time you should go hard is if you going against somebody from another gym.

What is a potshot in boxing?

I love going all out in sparring. Only thing is, i'm not a wild boxer. I just box like I would box in a real boxing match, which I consider going all out for me. I'm not a brawler or a hayemaker thrower though, I do potshotting which hurt me at first when I didn't know how to potshot. People think it's easy, but potshotting is actually a skill that you need to learn, not everybody can do it. Throwing combinations is easier than potshotting, successfully. As someone successfully uses potshotting and combinations, I must say potshotting is not harder than throwing decent combinations at someone good. It isn't necessarily harder but it isn't easier. If you are talking about people who just throw quickfire combinations with no intent at people who just put the earmuffs on then you would be right in saying that it is not that hard. But try throwing combinations with variety and power at someone who knows what they are doing and say it is easy. It's generally a stylistic thing; some people have a mentality suited to counter-punching and some have a mentality suited to combination punching. It is those fighters who can counter in combinations like Marquez who often cause real trouble.

I love going all out in sparring. Only thing is, i'm not a wild boxer. I just box like I would box in a real boxing match, which I consider going all out for me. I'm not a brawler or a hayemaker thrower though, I do potshotting which hurt me at first when I didn't know how to potshot. People think it's easy, but potshotting is actually a skill that you need to learn, not everybody can do it. Throwing combinations is easier than potshotting, successfully. throwing combinations is not easier, you'll tire in seconds and the whole time you're open to some wild punch poshotting is incredibly easy, it's what i do when i run out of stamina

LOL it's the same in ours. And quite honestly I like it as long as there is a coach that supervises the sparring. Our coach usually tells us what to work on, when he says full spar it's all out sparring. Me and my friend try to knock each other out in sparring then work out after. And no it's not throwing wild hayemakers its just that we hold very little back when we punch. But if someone gets hurt then we step back. Our coach usually never puts a beginner against a very experienced guy, when he does its never a full sparring.

I love going all out in sparring. Only thing is, i'm not a wild boxer. I just box like I would box in a real boxing match, which I consider going all out for me. I'm not a brawler or a hayemaker thrower though, I do potshotting which hurt me at first when I didn't know how to potshot. People think it's easy, but potshotting is actually a skill that you need to learn, not everybody can do it. Throwing combinations is easier than potshotting, successfully.

James and I were pretty good back then, we used to have fun. But he always had a hidden dislike for me with the attention that I used to recieve. After we were at Galaxy he used to ride me with his verbal attacks, I'd just shake my head and continue working. Years later Jackie told me that James had always been extremely jealous of me for what ever reason. That would explain how he treated me down at Galaxy. He is a good guy though and a riot to be around. I'm not sure how he would be towards me if we met up today..........Rockin':boxing: I think toney would be against anyone opposing him,doesn't matter if it's sparring or a real fight that's just the kind of human being he is. When he came to Australia to spar danny green a few years back..danny green took the better of him..the videos are on you tube..their whole sparring session. Then when one of greens gym partners turned toneys rap music off and put in some AC/DC ..toney took that personal and he threatened jeff fenech (dannys former coach) and the rest of the gym toney said he would get his gun and start shooting. Danny Green was telling that story on fox sport news a few years ago.

James and I were pretty good back then, we used to have fun. But he always had a hidden dislike for me with the attention that I used to recieve. After we were at Galaxy he used to ride me with his verbal attacks, I'd just shake my head and continue working. Years later Jackie told me that James had always been extremely jealous of me for what ever reason. That would explain how he treated me down at Galaxy. He is a good guy though and a riot to be around. I'm not sure how he would be towards me if we met up today..........Rockin':boxing: wonder why he went into UFC :confused:

That's the way ya do it man. It might be years before you are fighting on even terms with him but just know that every time that you are in there you will pick up just that little bit of experience that will make the difference. My nose bleed for about 6 months, every day from sparring. I had the white canvas just covered with my blood. But in time you will develop scar tissue and it will toughen up and stop bleeding. Say that you spar this guy every time for 3 months straight. Then if you step in to throw with a less experienced fighter it should be a cake walk for you. Believe me when I say that I got my ass handed to me plenty of times coming up. The thing is that I showed up the next day, every time, to do it all again. After awhile I was standing and fighting on even ground and then eventually I started busting up the guys that used to bust me up. Its a tough game and I believe you when you say that you are not scared. I know the pains that come with learning to fight. If you're fighting with better fighters you will improve but it will take some lumps until you learn. I like your attitude and believe that you will stick with it. Aswell I have experienced the head aches, literally, that come with the territory. I know it's tough to take those shots especially with a pre existing headache. If you have head aches that linger into the next day DO NOT SPAR that day. Let them call you a pussie or whatever but if you show up with a head ache to spar it could be dangerous. James Toney and I got into one day because I stated that his punches were to heavy during the sparring, so he started calling me a lil *****. I might have been 16 years old at the time and had gone to the gym with a splitting headache but sdparred anyway. He was older and heavier than I was and it just really sucks to get hit when you're already dealing with a head ache. So if you have head aches lay off a little and let the fools talk whatever **** that they want............Rockin':boxing: Damn toney is one crazy dude haha

stefl14 and Rockin' thanks a lot guys, very helpful and good food for thought :)