Just got to thinking about Pac avoiding the blood testing and I was trying to think of anyone else on the planet who has blatantly avoided giving blood or steroid testing the way he has. I know Hopkins was accused of not taking a test in his last fight...but who else?
Anyone else on here think Judah looks suspicious in his recent pics?
Sorry, but anyone not willing to give blood is hiding something imo.
Depends what kind of "tests" that you're talking about.
But, Leonard, Mosley, and Pac have turned it down.
The jury is still out if Ward turned it down against AA. I pretty much think he did. But, not much info came afterwards. Maybe because nobody truly gives a damn about this whole testing issue unless it's Mayweather/Pacquiao.
That's a lie.
USADA is the gold standard and every Olympic, Pan American and Special Olympic athlete undergoes if they compete in the USA.
No one is questioning the reputation or the integrity of USADA aside from Top Rank which is run by a man who has been caught bribing boxing officials.
And the only reason that every oriental is accepting Bob Arum's bullsh!t as gospel is because Manny Pacquiao is involved.
How ridiculous do you sound? USADA has caught more athletes cheating than any state athletic commission has. That's the reason they are the right people for the job. Well ... in Pacquiao's case that means that they are the wrong people for HIS situation.
usada has no gold standard of testing....that's just pure selling talk...for usada do not do the testing...the standards were set by wada....
as you said, "every Olympic, Pan American and Special Olympic athlete undergoes if they compete in the USA"....right...in the USA....it is territorial, isn't it???
so as per wada procedures...usada has no jurisdiction in the philppines....
so you think it fair to have usada test pac while he trains in the philippines..
wada did not go over usada on testing in the u.s.....denying arum's request...
do you think wada will go over any agency in the philippines that wada itself had accredited?
Just asking a simple question and I'm sure the topic is annoying to some who defend not willing fighters.
Cutoffs, no usada, all the excuses....YES, he has refused to test. And in regards to the commission, nobody respects their ped testing standards...it's a joke.
that is where the problem is.........
people are so inclined to dismiss the testing the commissions do as a joke....
yes, the present testing procedure is not perfect....
but the ost floyd and shane underwent were even questionable to most people...
even medical experts are still divided on the best testing procedures; which justifies the on-going researches on both urine and blood testing...
and there is even the issue of who will do the test; as the wada procedures are very territorial, as it is....
Pac nor any other fighter I know has refused to do the testing set up by the commission. The commission is the authority when it comes to testing, not individual fighters.
If you want Pac or anyone else to do blood testing, then bark at the commission, not the fighters. If that is in place and someone is still refusing, then you are entitled to raise this question. I dont know how many times this has been discussed here but this sh!t is getting annoying now.
very well said......
objective and to the point that matters...
sadly, some people now espouses the you are "guilty unless proven innocent" - which is against the basic tenet of law...
again, the people accusing pac of doing drugs failed to prove anything in the courts...
still people continue to suspect pac of using peds...
Pac nor any other fighter I know has refused to do the testing set up by the commission. The commission is the authority when it comes to testing, not individual fighters.
If you want Pac or anyone else to do blood testing, then bark at the commission, not the fighters. If that is in place and someone is still refusing, then you are entitled to raise this question. I dont know how many times this has been discussed here but this sh!t is getting annoying now.
Just asking a simple question and I'm sure the topic is annoying to some who defend not willing fighters.
Cutoffs, no usada, all the excuses....YES, he has refused to test. And in regards to the commission, nobody respects their ped testing standards...it's a joke.
Pac nor any other fighter I know has refused to do the testing set up by the commission. The commission is the authority when it comes to testing, not individual fighters.
If you want Pac or anyone else to do blood testing, then bark at the commission, not the fighters. If that is in place and someone is still refusing, then you are entitled to raise this question. I dont know how many times this has been discussed here but this sh!t is getting annoying now.
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