retarded Mayweather fans stop talking about Manny demanding a 10 million per lb weight limit penalty, like Floyd is meeting Manny half way, so Manny should take an OST. Its so retarded to equate that to what Manny is requesting from Floyd, it would only be comparable, if Manny had before, been found guilty of taking PED, then, you would have a reason to be skeptical, to make sure he were taking an OST.
The ONLY reason Manny asked for what he did, is because Mayweather himself, HAS, unlike Pacquiao, been found guilty of cheating the weight(Marquez), so it makes sense he would ask for it. Lets put it like this, Mayweather doesn't do what did to Marquez at the weigh in, Manny doesn't ask for that stipulation, so why are Mayweather fans acting like he's doing Manny a favour, so Manny should do one for him? Only retarded Mayweather fans could come to that conclusion.
What, you think Manny is as guilty as what Floyd was at cheating the weight, based on circumstantial evidence?
Mayweather made that compulsory to ask for, simply cause he's taken advantage of that factor before, so it makes sense to ask for it.
Don't forget that Floyd wanted the fight at 154 w/ 10 oz gloves.. :lol1: This penalty may have been there for a reason.
Just another concession that was met by Mayweather, who then fought Mosley at '47... is fighting Ortiz at '47... and apparently, already weighs '47 presently.
He only requested the fight be at '47 since Roach and Arum were talking about going up to '54 to fight Foreman before backtracking on their initial agreement to OST.
Anyway, can you tell me which fight at 147 pounds, Floyd Mayweather Jr. failed to make weight?
People aint taken back by the fact Manny asked for a weight stipulation penalty that Floyd agreed to, and that, that somehow means he should agree to Floyd's OST, they are taken back by the AMOUNT of money he's asking for in this stipulation, and as we have discovered, that is only so high, because Mayweather has been guilty of cheating the fact before, and that is your thread ladies and gentlemen
if floyd already agreed to the $10M/lb what is the issue then?
pbf agreed to pay jmm for the 2lbs over..the amount if memory serves totaled 600K only.....
does anyone here think floyd would have came in 2lbs over 144lbs and pay jmm $20M?
if that same $10M/lb was the stipulated penalty during pbf vs jmm?
just asking
No, never.
Exactly. Apparently, TS cannot grasp that... unless a magical fight took place at '47 in the past where Mayweather didn't make '47 and only TS knew about it.
People aint taken back by the fact Manny asked for a weight stipulation penalty that Floyd agreed to, and that, that somehow means he should agree to Floyd's OST, they are taken back by the AMOUNT of money he's asking for in this stipulation, and as we have discovered, that is only so high, because Mayweather has been guilty of cheating the fact before, and that is your thread ladies and gentlemen
Mayweather cheated at '47?
People aint taken back by the fact Manny asked for a weight stipulation penalty that Floyd agreed to, and that, that somehow means he should agree to Floyd's OST, they are taken back by the AMOUNT of money he's asking for in this stipulation, and as we have discovered, that is only so high, because Mayweather has been guilty of cheating the fact before, and that is your thread ladies and gentlemen
He basically said the commission is inept to handle over the weight penalty....So he went beyond the commission. And, set up his OWN penalties for said fights....
Again what Pac said was the commission penalties are garbage...And, had to set up his Pacquiao commission.
So ask the stupid questions again. So I can keep giving you the correct answers...And, we could go back and forth until you finally get that Pac went beyond the commission to set up his own penalties.
Link please?
Mayweather had NEVER cheated the weight before period, yet he did against Marquez, so if he aint cheated it at 147 before, what difference does that make.
The same difference it makes to force the commission to make the champ put their 147 lb. title on the line at 145 lbs.
Two completely different weight classes.
The $10M dollar penalty was a demand that was made to avoid the fight at that time because Roach didn't believe they were ready for March 2010, But that backfired when Mayweather said Okay.. If Mayweather had said No Team PAC would have said Mayweather ducked the fight but that potential roadblock was removed when Mayweather agree to it.... So Team Pac had to go back on the already agreed to OSDT.
So would didn't he ask for his whole purse then?
The only road block, was from Mayweather, cause fights are happening REGULARLY, under the procedures that are in place, so there is no reason this fight shouldn't be happening under the same conditions, if its good enough for everyone else.
IDK how much the guarantee was...They purse doesn't count PPV upside...It only counts the guarantee...Also it wasn't 500k total or 3mil total it was per pound...So in reality hypothetically it could have the whole purse if they came in 3 or 4 pounds over. And, that's beyond the commission rules sir...Do you not understand that? And, in Oscar case...Even fraction of a pound would be 3mil. A fraction, did you see in part of the rules where it says "except if it is less than a pound"?
Please try again.
So then how do you know he went above the commission?
You don't.
I understand fully. Manny isn't using these things as make or break deals.
At the time those fights were made, DLH and Morales were the bigger stars. He had no position to say, "its my way or the highway". They agreed to it because they simply wanted to fight. He made some adjustments within the context of the rules, but he didn't make his own commission and say, "my way or no fight". He actually fought them.
Floyd is saying, "you have to do this and you have to do it the way I say, or no fight".
Huge difference.
The $10M dollar penalty was a demand that was made to avoid the fight at that time because Roach didn't believe they were ready for March 2010, But that backfired when Mayweather said Okay.. If Mayweather had said No Team PAC would have said Mayweather ducked the fight but that potential roadblock was removed when Mayweather agree to it.... So Team Pac had to go back on the already agreed to OSDT.
Thank you for the time line, Ray. It was a bluff and Mayweather called it.
Deep down, we know why Mayweather would agree to his stipulation to, Mayweather knows he was guilty before, that its plausible someone would in the future, ask for that, but he also knew he wouldn't be able to drop his bombshell without conceding that.
People act like Mayweather does this stuff out of the kindness of his heart, to make it easier to make the fight Lol, as he "wants" it more.
Mayweather agreed because he knew if he felt like it, hed just come in heavy n throw the bread up jusg to **** with them.
No, if he went beyond the commission for 3 fights than he did for the same reason...You said to gain an advantage would he gain I have no idea...But, it will be for the same reason in all 3.
The fight is at 147 Floyd has never ever failed to make 147 isn't that right?
And, doesn't the commission handle the penalties anyways? Why not have them handle it if Floyd does come in over 147?
Say Floyd has never cheated the weight, you think Manny drops his weight demands when Floyd tries to compare it to his OST demands? Like If Mayweather says I will do that, if you do this, you think Manny thinks that's fair, or does Manny say, tell you what, scratch the OST and weight issue, and lets fight?
Would Manny be more willing to concede the weight demand, if Mayweather had not been found guilty of cheating it before? Does he ask for as much of a pen?
Mayweather had NEVER cheated the weight before period, yet he did against Marquez, so if he aint cheated it at 147 before, what difference does that make.
I'd of thought that was obvious, cause last time he virtually voided the pen cause he could afford to.
The $10M dollar penalty was a demand that was made to avoid the fight at that time because Roach didn't believe they were ready for March 2010, But that backfired when Mayweather said Okay.. If Mayweather had said No Team PAC would have said Mayweather ducked the fight but that potential roadblock was removed when Mayweather agree to it.... So Team Pac had to go back on the already agreed to OSDT.
Deep down, we know why Mayweather would agree to his stipulation to, Mayweather knows he was guilty before, that its plausible someone would in the future, ask for that, but he also knew he wouldn't be able to drop his bombshell without conceding that.
People act like Mayweather does this stuff out of the kindness of his heart, to make it easier to make the fight Lol, as he "wants" it more.
Mayweather accepted it because he knows he won't weigh in above 147.