Is Paul Williams a HOF at this stage?

Surprised no one has posted this yet. Paul Williams is at the foot of being considered for the HOF. It's how he rebounds from the Martinez ko that may shoo him in.

to those who voted yes, or even said that he still has a chance....BASED ON WHAT?

In order for him to be a HOF'er, the elite fighters had to have fought him. Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely at 147 lbs didnt fight him. Williams didnt get the cream of the crop at 154lbs until Martinez. A Pavlik win could have been a good one to have on a resume.... If he fought those guys and beat most of them, I think, at least from today's standpoint, he could possibly be in the conversation one day. In order for him to make it as of today, he has to win a title and DEFEND it. Big names would come with defenses. Cotto, Margarito, Angulo, Lattimore, Martinez, ect are all fighters Williams can beat in a defense IMO. Thats what made B-Hop great. His resume was pretty good but his 20 defenses is what shined bright.. I dont buy the Williams' retiring story. If Williams fights the best opponents from now on and wins a title and successfully defends it, it may not be impossible for him to do it..

this must be a joke. If PWill retired right now he is not close to HOF.

They only let in 3 per year, so its hard to imagine a scenario that he makes it on his resume so far. But his career is not over and WTF Kosta Tszu made it!

My grandpa use to tell me stories about this guy...he loved him and was my grandpa's most favorite fighters in those days. He retired in the early 50s right? That's the guy. He was a great fighter, still not been inducted into the HOF which is quite frankly outright tragic. Beat Holman Williams 8 times, beat Eddie Booker, fought to a draw with Charley Burley. And would fight everyone and anyone. Also dropped Ray Robinson in sparring. And the average Boxing fan has no idea who he is. Which is what I was getting at with Paul Williams who lets be honest, will never, ever, be considering as close to as great as Cocoa Kid was. I made a thread about him in the History Section. By all means go and check it out. And vote for it to win the 2 Billion points competition :D Votes close in 4 days :fing02:

Dont be stupid. He'd get eaten alive at 168. Sergio already chased him out of 160. I don't think so,I believe he could be competitive at 160lb and 168lb..He might lose here or there but he might lose at 154lb as well..I never thought Pwill was that great a boxer he could not be defeated..He still has fights with Pav and AA if he get's by either I would not mind seeing him fight Johnson Dirrell or Kessler..Andy Lee would be a great fight at 160lb I really want to see him fight Martinez again tbh.. Point is if Pwill wants to be a HOF fighter he needs fights like those mentioned..Vanes Cotto Alvarez JCC Jr etc etc really don't do much for him at Jr MW..His best fights at the weight would be Cintron Kirkland orAngulo,all who I don't believe at this point would fight Pwilly..His best bet is to take the tough road and go threw MW on to SMW..

you need a "hell no probably wont be" option

I don't think he's big enough to fight at those weights effectively. Remember that he asked Sergio for a catch weight in their last fight. He's tall but he has a slim frame. I'm pretty sure he has not put on that weight in hopes to land a big fight with either of the biggest stars in the sport..If he wanted to fill out in the higher weights I believe he could do it..

Anyone remember when Donald Curry beat Marlon Starling? And people were saying he could beat anyone? Had a nice title reign, would fight anyone. Then he got battered by Honeyghan, crushed by McCallum, upset by Jacquot? Curry was a talented, throwback fighter. He fought; Honeyghan, Starling x2, Norris, Nunn, McCallum etc etc. Ask the average fan who Donald Curry is; They don't know.They may have heard about him but they don't know him. And Curry was better and fought better fighters than Paul Williams. The 50's and 60's and even before then literally saw millions of 'Paul Williams' type fighters. I'm not talking about his size or style I'm simply taking a fighter who has the potential to be something and he didn't reach that and is forgotten many years later. Wrongly forgotten, these fighters deserve to be remembered. Look at Kid Cocoa, Pone Kingpetch, Gaspar Ortega, Chalkey Wright, these fighters are HOF'ers! Or atleast should be. Ask NSB to tell you about them; They don't know them. You would have to be very misinformed to think Paul Williams is one of a kind. He isn't. My grandpa use to tell me stories about this guy...he loved him and was my grandpa's most favorite fighters in those days. He retired in the early 50s right?

Really? Like who. Hes a rare breed. A 6-4, 147,154,160 Pound southpaw who fights to entertain, doesnt duck anybody, doesnt run, and will fight God if he had too? Naw Iron I only seen one. Anyone remember when Donald Curry beat Marlon Starling? And people were saying he could beat anyone? Had a nice title reign, would fight anyone. Then he got battered by Honeyghan, crushed by McCallum, upset by Jacquot? Curry was a talented, throwback fighter. He fought; Honeyghan, Starling x2, Norris, Nunn, McCallum etc etc. Ask the average fan who Donald Curry is; They don't know.They may have heard about him but they don't know him. And Curry was better and fought better fighters than Paul Williams. The 50's and 60's and even before then literally saw millions of 'Paul Williams' type fighters. I'm not talking about his size or style I'm simply taking a fighter who has the potential to be something and he didn't reach that and is forgotten many years later. Wrongly forgotten, these fighters deserve to be remembered. Look at Kid Cocoa, Pone Kingpetch, Gaspar Ortega, Chalkey Wright, these fighters are HOF'ers! Or atleast should be. Ask NSB to tell you about them; They don't know them. You would have to be very misinformed to think Paul Williams is one of a kind. He isn't.

right now he is not a HOF but his career is not over...he has time to still become a HOF

I don't think so,there really is nobody fighting at that weight..He should move up to 160lb then to 168lb..Now we're talking HOF career.. Dont be stupid. He'd get eaten alive at 168. Sergio already chased him out of 160.

I don't think so,there really is nobody fighting at that weight..He should move up to 160lb then to 168lb..Now we're talking HOF career.. I don't think he's big enough to fight at those weights effectively. Remember that he asked Sergio for a catch weight in their last fight. He's tall but he has a slim frame.

Absolutely not. Unless he achieves a drastic amount in his last remaining years he will be fogotten in 20 years time and only people from this era will remember him. "Remember that throwback fighter from the 00's? Paul Williams? He was a pretty good fighter" I've seen a thousand Paul Williams' come and go. Really? Like who. Hes a rare breed. A 6-4, 147,154,160 Pound southpaw who fights to entertain, doesnt duck anybody, doesnt run, and will fight God if he had too? Naw Iron I only seen one.

If he cleans out the 154lbs. division will he then deserve HOF consideration? I don't think so,there really is nobody fighting at that weight..He should move up to 160lb then to 168lb..Now we're talking HOF career..

Pwill needs to be fighting at 160lb to 168lb tbh,he is very big and won't get the fights he should get at lower weights..Maybe at 154lb and even then I believe a lot of fighters will duck him..Simply put he must move up to get those grand fights,160lb has Andy Lee and Martinez..168lb has AA Pav Froch Bute Ward Dirrell etc etc..You see he must move up,forget about Floyd and Pac dude ya like 6'7 lol..

Absolutely not. Unless he achieves a drastic amount in his last remaining years he will be fogotten in 20 years time and only people from this era will remember him. "Remember that throwback fighter from the 00's? Paul Williams? He was a pretty good fighter" I've seen a thousand Paul Williams' come and go. I agree with this. If he sticks around 154 though and his chin is still intact, I don't really see anyone who can beat him.

If he cleans out the 154lbs. division will he then deserve HOF consideration?