Haye is still the 3rd best Heavyweight in the world

Uhm... let me think... probably because he KOed Lemon Brewster and Sam Peter? Wow....im convinced now...

What the hell do people see in Helenius? Uhm... let me think... probably because he KOed Lemon Brewster and Sam Peter?

More convinced about that than ever after he survived 12 rounds and never got rocked vs Wlad. Only Helenius I think might beat him I think he is pretty good. Top 5 definitely, not sure about the third best, but not too far from it. But still I hate the guy for being such an ass.

What the hell do people see in Helenius? hes nothing special, but hes still one of the best Heavyweights in the world and would beat almost all of them not named Klitschko. wasnt surprised at all when he beat Peter, although the nature of the KO was a bit of a shocker. ....Tony Thompson is the #3 heavweight and would have TKOed Haye through accumulation. :firedevil

What the hell do people see in Helenius? I said the same thing about David Haye.

I dunno, I mean if you look at Adamek, he's coming off wins over Grant, Madellone and Mcbride, I mean none of those guys are relevant AT ALL yet he's considered number 3 now? Then Again Haye fought Fraudley and then lost to Wlad. Personally i just think its the klitschkos and then about 5 other guys who are all on the same level, wait and see though if Adamek gets massacred by Vitali then i'd put him below Haye tbh Mcbride and Grant are better wins than Fraudley. Before those fights Adamek beat Arreola the same month that Haye beat Ruiz. He deserves to be ranked ahead of Haye. What the hell do people see in Helenius? After 16 fights he has wins over Gammer, Bydenko, Brewster, Oloukun, Tony, Levin, Peter. His resume is considerably better than Haye's.

What the hell do people see in Helenius?

haye is number 3, but he has to take out all the other wannabes... haye stands the best chance against vitali and also in a rematch with wlad....if he can put together a good gameplan he is more than capable of beating them... however he doesnt deserve a shot right now, he has to earn it, and in the long run its better for him to mop of all the other dudes, it'll help him be a better fighter and build is confidence back up.....he has all the tools to beat the Klits, however thats if he is willing to put in the work

Adamek #3? WTF?

I would put Adamek ahead of him right now!!!! With him fresh off a loss :boxing:

haye is the 3rd best HEAVYWEIGHT CLOWN! #1 Heavyweight clown and trash talk king

Haye is disgrace what a coward.

My top 5 1. Vitali 2. Wladimir 3 Adamek 4. Helenius 5. Arreola (the new and improved version) Haye would be maybe 6 or 7. Haye should have gotten the loss against Valuev, who he fought almost identically to the way he fought Wladimir. For me is something like this 1. Wladimir 2. Vitali 3. Adamek 4. Helenius 5. Arreola/Haye I agree with you guys. But Wlad at number one.

For me is something like this 1. Wladimir 2. Vitali 3. Adamek 4. Helenius 5. Arreola/Haye

Adamek fought Kevin McBride and is therefore irrelevant. I like Arreola's attitude since he came back but he still hasn't beaten anybody of note. Haye remains #3 until proven otherwise.

and yes, I think David is there in top 5. If he is smart, he should stay around, beat peopl, make $ and then collide with Vitali