Someone explain how Ortiz will beat Mayweather?

Ortiz is a good fighter but not good enough too beat Mayweather,his lack of experience against top level guys wont help either

The way i see it, if Hatton managed to give Mayweather some problems early in their fight, i think Ortiz has a chance of an upset. That was Mayweather at his prime, and even though he put on a masterclass against Hatton, Hatton managed to cause some problems at times. Ortiz has underated boxing skill imo, we know hes an aggressive puncher with fairly fast hands but he also has good boxing ability. Hes also fighting a Mayweather thats not in his absolute prime. I think Ortiz could seriously trouble Mayweather in the early rounds maybe even wobble him, but I can imagine Mayweather figuring Ortiz out by the middle rounds.

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Maidana isn't as good as Mayweather. Mayweather, doesn't hit as hard as Mayweather. Different fighters. All there is to it. Regardless, you beat someone the way you beat anyone Being better on the night. Night in life. Not in legacy. Not in anything other than the moment. A decent jab, body attack and in and out movement. Get Mayweather to respect his shots and start to tag him early. Don't be timid, but don't be reckless. Easier said than done, but that's the way it works. right....... and there is no guarantee pbf is immune to an upset.....even pac..... mike was not vs buster...

Ortiz will be the underdog because he is facing the best professional boxer in the world. Ortiz is better at 147 than 140. He isn't one of the 20 best fighters in the world but he is the best ww other than floyd and manny. How do we know Ortiz is better at 147 he's had 1 fight at ww. Watching Ortiz against Berto, throwing bombs and having so many opening, He's no match for Floyd regardless if he has been on vacation or not. One fight at WW against someone like an overrated Berto does not prove you are a top WW when you have only faught once. As much as I like Ortiz, Floyd is way too much.

Berto is 6-1 to win and 8-1 to stop PBF, which is almost worth a bet. But Floyd's skills will have to have seriously deteriorated for Ortiz not to get toyed with and totally outclassed.

You are obviously new to boxing or flat out ignorant. With your bone head mentality, you can easily say "how will Pacquiao beat Mayweather? Same guy who got KO'd by two bums, was outboxed twice by JMM, and got lit up by Erik Morales?" See how retarded that sounds?

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If Ortiz brings a loaded gun to the ring, chances are he wins. If Floyd is the usual Floyd, he'll win quite comfortably while getting hits with a couple shots here and there while smiling bringing Ortiz's confidence down (and we know what ends up happening after that). UD by Floyd.

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if ortiz can beat mayweather, then a lot of boxers can beat mayweather. maidana can make floyd look ordinary. khan would school floyd. peterson would give floyd hell. which means you don't need pacquiao to humiliate this overrated guy. :bigeyes:

Ortiz should believe in miracles.

Ortiz is always gun blazing right out of the 1st bell Floyd haven't fought in over a year and according to some he doesn't have his legs anymore. Ortiz won't give him a chance to get rid of ring rust early on Victor has a golden chance imo

The same guy that quit against Maidana..? Actual Floyd is a mystery because he hasn't fought an elite primed fighter in over 10 years. Has fought shot fighters like Delahoya, Mosley Gatti, than little guys like Hatton and Marquez. Floyd had trouble with Hype job Hatton for 7 rounds, Victor Ortiz isn't a little guy that he can push around like he did to those little guys Hatton and Marquez. Victor can pull the trigger Mosley and Delahoya were shot fighter's as Freddy stated they can no longer pull the trigger. Mayweather sucess has come from fooling fans by carefully selecting name fighter who skill's were diminishing or smaller men who are ranked on the P4P list to fool the not so bright by claiming he beat the number 2 guy but left out the fact that he out wieghed him by 15 to 20 pounds at fight time.

My strategy for ortiz Intelligent pressure, constantly moving to his right and firing combinations. You are not going to outbox Floyd. pumping that right jab and firing that straight left down the middle. don't worry about hitting him on the chin the first few rounds, just hit him anywhere. constantly moving to your right. gotta stay on top of him and keep him off balance, but not reckless like hatton. make him fight your pace. floyd and hopkins have a unique ability to make fighters box at their pace. oscar and judah were effective for the first half of the fight, but had stamina issues and floyd caught up to them. hit hm on the arms and bang that body !!

If Floyd is the same fighter he was against Mosley, i don't see him having any problems with Ortiz. Only way Ortiz wins imo, is if Floyd has declined alot since his last fight which could always be a possibility. I have Floyd winning a clear cut decision.

The same guy that quit against Maidana..? but to stick to your question: 1. First and foremost Floyd will have had to decline further physically from the SSM fight in terms of speed and reflexes. 2. Ortiz must improve from the Berto performance. He and his trainer said it was 70% of what they think they can get to. Ortiz needs to find the other 30% against Floyd. 3. Ortiz has to find a way to impose his strength and size. This may mean going after Mayweather like a wolverine attacking a snake early and risk getting put down first.

The same guy that quit against Maidana..? i don't think he is the same guy.....especially not at 147. Does anyone think Maidana would beat Ortiz in a rematch at 147?? I don't think so. Bottom line is that right now Ortiz is the number 2 WW, and a Manny fight isn't viable atm for whatever reason you prefer to believe.....

Right, just like how Ortiz put the over-rated Bum Berto to sleep right? Mayweather is the best Defensive fighter today. You really think Ortiz will land? Mayweather will be countering this mofo all night to a UD Ortiz will be the underdog because he is facing the best professional boxer in the world. Ortiz is better at 147 than 140. He isn't one of the 20 best fighters in the world but he is the best ww other than floyd and manny.

The only way he will beat him is if floyd gets overly aggressive before felling out ortiz....that wont happen . Floyd is too smart and know how to use his abilties....which are second to none, and win, no matter what the haters say