This is not a court of law, and I doubt your a lawyer or an attorney. What conclusive information that you've seen or have read that indicates Pacquiao case is a slam dunk?
well, it is easy to do a slam dunk when your guards gave way..one way or another....
pbf failing to submit a deposition is like a waiver....like losing by default
gbp making amends is seen as giving way....
for pac to do a slam dunk
The fact that Manny has included the email in his defamation suit only shows that he is 100 percent positive that
a. the email doesn't exist, or b. the email came from an unreliable source/fabricated
He wouldn't have included it in his case otherwise. End of story.
IMHO! I really dont give a ****! I wanna c the fight, both fighters have been acting like b!tches, and if Manny is using then it will come out. Manny fans kill me more then floyd fans cause Manny fans act like Manny can do no wrong, even the media acts like Manny can do no wrong, ppl have this perception that Manny is a honest guy cause he is very soft spoken and humble but forget he is a politician.
When I seen him by the pool with his gold chains and hangers on I thought he looked like a rat with a gold tooth , guy cheated on his wife and is a politician , that means he will without a doubt lie .
IMHO! I really dont give a ****! I wanna c the fight, both fighters have been acting like b!tches, and if Manny is using then it will come out. Manny fans kill me more then floyd fans cause Manny fans act like Manny can do no wrong, even the media acts like Manny can do no wrong, ppl have this perception that Manny is a honest guy cause he is very soft spoken and humble but forget he is a politician.
How do you know I'm not? I actually do work in the court system and probably know more about legal proceedings than most. How was Mayweather trying to defame Pac?
You can diss me all you want, but Bob knows the legal system better than he does boxing. He knows you don't file a BS lawsuit against the press. ESPN and the Daily News don't hire lawyers from internet law schools man.
so you want pac to sue espn and ny daily because he will likely lose the case and you badly want to see him lose right?
and you also know that pac has a strong case against the mayweathers and that pains you, aint it?
just get espn and ny daily out of the discussion. besides their only participation is that fukking email from a source that doesn't want to reveal himself. how lame is that huh?
NO EVIDENCE , IT MUST BE REAL ----flomo logic
Mayweather beats a stripper and a video camera catches his kids running for dear life. A camera catches Josie Harris being cartied to the hospital = Complete Fiction.... NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
Mayweather Team makes up false allegations and bogus emails about steroid use = FACT..... IT REALLY REALLY HAPPENED!
lol dunn did you really just posted that $hit?:pat:
what d fukk do you know about legal matters? as far as i know ny daily and espn did not accuse pac of anything. they simply quoted an alleged source that pac's team tried to inquire about some $hits. how in hell are they trying to defame pac? and if they want they can easily reveal their source and they're off the hook.
we're both not lawyers here...don't ack like one. pac already hired good lawyers to take care of that and for sure they know what they're doing...something i can not say about you.
How do you know I'm not? I actually do work in the court system and probably know more about legal proceedings than most. How was Mayweather trying to defame Pac?
You can diss me all you want, but Bob knows the legal system better than he does boxing. He knows you don't file a BS lawsuit against the press. ESPN and the Daily News don't hire lawyers from internet law schools man.
I don't care that Manny was suing. Its absolutely his right. My question was and is why not sue the people/institutions that really could defame you and hurt your career.
Respectfully, Bob Arum knows the law. He knows what would happen if Manny sues ESPN or the Daily News. The Floyd lawsuit can be used as a negotiaitions ploy. Notice how Manny withdrew lawsuit against GBP and Schaffer and the JMM fight all comes together quite nicely. Sue ESPN and the Daily News and their 100 person legal team goes to work. One poster pointed out the endless people who "represent" manny. My guess is if the emails do exist they came from some idiot in Pac's camp. I mean Bob and his team just aren't that dumb.
I may loathe Bob but he isn't stupid.
lol dunn did you really just posted that $hit?:pat:
what d fukk do you know about legal matters? as far as i know ny daily and espn did not accuse pac of anything. they simply quoted an alleged source that pac's team tried to inquire about some $hits. how in hell are they trying to defame pac? and if they want they can easily reveal their source and they're off the hook.
we're both not lawyers here...don't ack like one. pac already hired good lawyers to take care of that and for sure they know what they're doing...something i can not say about you.
There you go, you do know why it's not good suing the media. Why shoot the messenger?
But the email is very clear it did not come from Pac's camp or fan, who in hell uses Manniepacoyo(what was that again?) as an anonymous username as some kind of giving a so obvious clue to where it came from?
You said it came from an idiot, that we can agree on and if it came from a Pactard then you're giving him too much credit with his intelligence. :lol1:
There are many people who want PAc to fight floyd because manny would make more money that he could help his people with. I am sure there is internal discussion about Bob dleaying the fight as he has with every other big fight he has promoted. Its a proven money maker.
I don't care that Manny was suing. Its absolutely his right. My question was and is why not sue the people/institutions that really could defame you and hurt your career.
Respectfully, Bob Arum knows the law. He knows what would happen if Manny sues ESPN or the Daily News. The Floyd lawsuit can be used as a negotiaitions ploy. Notice how Manny withdrew lawsuit against GBP and Schaffer and the JMM fight all comes together quite nicely. Sue ESPN and the Daily News and their 100 person legal team goes to work. One poster pointed out the endless people who "represent" manny. My guess is if the emails do exist they came from some idiot in Pac's camp. I mean Bob and his team just aren't that dumb.
I may loathe Bob but he isn't stupid.
There you go, you do know why it's not good suing the media. Why shoot the messenger?
But the email is very clear it did not come from Pac's camp or fan, who in hell uses Manniepacoyo(what was that again?) as an anonymous username as some kind of giving a so obvious clue to where it came from?
You said it came from an idiot, that we can agree on and if it came from a Pactard then you're giving him too much credit with his intelligence. :lol1:
that's cool...i hope you're honest with that. do you also acknowledge pac's position to exercise his legal rights like anybody else?
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Nice. That's all i can say. :D
that's cool...i hope you're honest with that. do you also acknowledge pac's position to exercise his legal rights like anybody else?
I don't care that Manny was suing. Its absolutely his right. My question was and is why not sue the people/institutions that really could defame you and hurt your career.
Respectfully, Bob Arum knows the law. He knows what would happen if Manny sues ESPN or the Daily News. The Floyd lawsuit can be used as a negotiaitions ploy. Notice how Manny withdrew lawsuit against GBP and Schaffer and the JMM fight all comes together quite nicely. Sue ESPN and the Daily News and their 100 person legal team goes to work. One poster pointed out the endless people who "represent" manny. My guess is if the emails do exist they came from some idiot in Pac's camp. I mean Bob and his team just aren't that dumb.
I may loathe Bob but he isn't stupid.
No I just want Manny fans to acknowledge that Manny is being held to the same standard as other athletes that make a living in the US and that its ok.
that's cool...i hope you're honest with that. do you also acknowledge pac's position to exercise his legal rights like anybody else?
so what are you trying to prove for bringing it up all the time? this has been discussed a thousand times in this forum...still not enough for you? what's your agenda? are you trying to win people over to floyd's side?
No I just want Manny fans to acknowledge that Manny is being held to the same standard as other athletes that make a living in the US and that its ok.
No because I don't religiously waste my time looking for evidence to support or defend this argument. A quick Google of the issue, leads me to one video from Mayweather Sr, and a bunch of opinionated articles.
I don't see the conclusive evidence you see.
Rightfully so you don't, since it's the job of the legal team to gather evidence and i don't need to point it out to you since you don't have an interest to the case at all unless you're actually Floyd. :lol1:
The only thing i can tell you though is that the Mayweather's family has such big mouths, no pun intended, and that's the curse of being an idiot! Those opinionated articles is simply the precursor of the portent things to come which Pac's legal team can use to bloster their case and even justify their monetary claims as the defamation has not stopped until now even that innocently made shirt by the "comedian" can be made evidence that pac's been maliciously defamed everywhere continuously due to the mayweather's big mouths.:nono:
Any negotiaiting of a cutoff point raises flags. You have to admit that. Can you imagine if ARod or Jeter(1 clean, 1 dirty) asked to know when tests were?
If you feel that way fine but that makes no sense. Floyd didn't win anything. He signed to fight and Manny didn't because there was a clause in the contract for PED testing for both fighters. If this didn't happen none of the other things would have occurred.
Manny fans like you know this so they blame floyd for asking for PED testing because the fight woul've occurred if this wasn't in the contract. Floyd fans blame manny because there is no honest or valid reason to not have both fighters engage in PED testing. Instead of floyd dropping the request, they put the onus on PAc to take them because if Manny takes them, none of the other BS happens.
so what are you trying to prove for bringing it up all the time? this has been discussed a thousand times in this forum...still not enough for you? what's your agenda? are you trying to win people over to floyd's side?