it's the same weight, yeah mayweather was overweight but it's practically the same
the only reason ppl are looking past the fact that jmm is made to fight way out of his natural weight is because of pac troubles against said fighter
pacquiao's troubles figuring out a counterpuncher shouldn't excuse the fact that he is using the same tactics everyone was critizicing mayweather for, hell it's even worse because pacquiao can surely make 140 pounds
why is pacquiao using this tactics? insecurity? i hope so, the other choice would be that he is using his power to bully jmm into an unfair fight, really where is the sportsmanship in this? wasn't pac one of the good guys in boxing? some kind of role model?
there is absolutely no difference between the two fights, only that Floyd laid waste to Marquez and made it look easy. Pacquiao is a fully fledged welterweight, as is Mayweather, Marquez has had to jump up from Lightweight to Welterweight to fight both of them
There is no difference, only in the eyes of Pactards. Floyds win will look all the more impressive if Pacquiao struggles or loses with Marquez. If Pacquiao beats JMM, then Pactards will claim his victory is better or worth more blah blah blah
Correction. No difference only in the eyes of Floyd fans. Look at the stats of all three and see all the differences.
Floyd had a 5 inch reach advantage, about 2 inch height advantage, strength advantage, and at least 10 lbs. weight advantage over Marquez. This will not be the same case with Pac/Marquez.
Marquez's punches from outside were inches short of the target and he looked slow against FMJ because FMJ took advantage of the reach difference by staying away from Marquez's range while keeping Marquez within his reach. That made it easier for FMJ to use his pull-counter and counter punching more effective.
The strength advantage became more apparent whenever Marquez tried to close the distance. FMJ simply smothered most of his attempts with the use of his superior strength.
Several reasons.
1. Some people really want to see Marquez-Pacquiao III. Whether or not it will be as competitive as their first two fights is beside the point. Some people have still be calling for it. At the very least, people were calling for it. Hardcore fans were never really calling for Marquez-Mayweather.
2. Manny is still the bigger man than Marquez, but he is still seen as the smaller man when it comes to Mayweather. Whether or not that is true, is irrelevant. Perception is often times reality.
3. Out of the opponents that could have been brought up, he's not the worst option. It makes business sense for several reasons. It keeps Manny out there while letting him close the chapter for his legacy, potentially. It also allows Manny to one-up Mayweather if he manages to stop Marquez this time. It's probably going to sell pretty well with Manny's new fans and the back story.
So u agree Floyd is better than Pac and is the favorite to defeat the Filipino?
skillwise, yes
Pac would get boxed sh!tless by Floyd regardless, Pac has problems against rangy fighters
so i don't know what's the hook-up with them drug tests
Pacman can make the Catch-weight limit; While Floydie went over the Catch-weight limit!
In this 3rd fight between Pacman vs Marquez, if Marquez would elect to fight Pacman, he will end up in hospital the same way on what happened to his countryman, Margs.
Marquez is certainly hittable, been knockdowns several times in his last fights.
And I won't be surprise if Pacman will win by KO/TKO.
actually this is debatable, I though Floyd looked bigger than Mosley ...
well you also think that the earth is flat so your opinion doesnt really matter. you'll have to find someone just as retarded as yourself to debate with :stooges:
it's diffrent becuase unlike floyd, pac will not have a huge size advantge over jmm.....it is that simple....
everyone is forgetting this, Pac and JMM will be at their regular fightnight weight Pac ~148 and JMM ~144 ....
The difference is JMM has a draw and a close decision loss to Pac, and he hasn't slipped that much since the rematch. So it's still an interesting fight. Floyd is a nightmare style match for JMM even if he were the bigger man himself. I'm not sure how this fight is getting any flack other than it being a couple years too late.
So u agree Floyd is better than Pac and is the favorite to defeat the Filipino?
Pac is 1 division bigger than piss drinker
Floyd was 2 divisions bigger than piss drinker
Pac will actually honor the damn catchweight
Floyd refused to honor the catchweight
people been screaming for Pac-JMM 3 for 3 years
people scorched Floyd for fighting JMM
people actually believe piss drinker can beat Pac and see it as legit
nobody thought for a second JMM would see the last bell vs Floyd
^^^^ This. Damn Jack, your making damn good posts today.
Not to mention Floyd-JMM was a boxing clinic. Pac-jmm is gonna be a street fight.
The difference is JMM has a draw and a close decision loss to Pac, and he hasn't slipped that much since the rematch. So it's still an interesting fight. Floyd is a nightmare style match for JMM even if he were the bigger man himself. I'm not sure how this fight is getting any flack other than it being a couple years too late.
it's the same weight, yeah mayweather was overweight but it's practically the same
the only reason ppl are looking past the fact that jmm is made to fight way out of his natural weight is because of pac troubles against said fighter
pacquiao's troubles figuring out a counterpuncher shouldn't excuse the fact that he is using the same tactics everyone was critizicing mayweather for, hell it's even worse because pacquiao can surely make 140 pounds
why is pacquiao using this tactics? insecurity? i hope so, the other choice would be that he is using his power to bully jmm into an unfair fight, really where is the sportsmanship in this? wasn't pac one of the good guys in boxing? some kind of role model?
Marquez fighting at 147 is never good. Marquez is too small for 147, but one thing Pacquiao can say that Mayweather can't is that he fought Marquez at his best weights twice.
Say what you want, you can't deny that.
Pac is 1 division bigger than piss drinker
Floyd was 2 divisions bigger than piss drinker
Pac will actually honor the damn catchweight
Floyd refused to honor the catchweight
people been screaming for Pac-JMM 3 for 3 years
people scorched Floyd for fighting JMM
people actually believe piss drinker can beat Pac and see it as legit
nobody thought for a second JMM would see the last bell vs Floyd
they're about the same size maybe about a 4 to 5 pound edge to floyd no more
if mayweather was bigger the king of catchweights would have already demanded one
4 to 5 lbs does'nt make sense.....it just does'nt.....a healthy jmm was at 145,a fat one was more than that..you mean to say floyd was only about 150ish when he fought jmm?...lol.....and this upcoimng catweigheight is favoring jmm not pac, same with the catweight fight with floyd...so you could say, both pac and jmm have equal numbers of catchweight fights...
it's diffrent becuase unlike floyd, pac will not have a huge size advantge over jmm.....it is that simple....
yes yes we all know Floyd is king kong. despite weighing in at 159 fully clotherd with shoes on, MP fan eye tests tell us he was 165+ against JMM.
Floyd's the bigger fighter... Plain and Simple... You all Flomos quit trying to say otherwise. If looking at the two in the middle of the ring didn't convince of this then nothing will. Manny and JMM are natural Lightwieghts at best, and there are larger Lightweights than them currently in the division. Floyd is a full, legit Welterweight. He looked equal in size and sturdier than Shane when they fought.
it's the same weight, yeah mayweather was overweight but it's practically the same
the only reason ppl are looking past the fact that jmm is made to fight way out of his natural weight is because of pac troubles against said fighter
pacquiao's troubles figuring out a counterpuncher shouldn't excuse the fact that he is using the same tactics everyone was critizicing mayweather for, hell it's even worse because pacquiao can surely make 140 pounds
why is pacquiao using this tactics? insecurity? i hope so, the other choice would be that he is using his power to bully jmm into an unfair fight, really where is the sportsmanship in this? wasn't pac one of the good guys in boxing? some kind of role model?
guys, jmm does not need any cry baby to point out any unfair situations or disparities in the pac/jmm fight contract he had signed (if any)...in the first place, jmm was the one always hounding pac to give him the 3rd bout.....also consider that:
a. there won't be really as huge a difference in weight
b. jmm's loss to pbf is not without "lessons learned"; adjustments could still be made
c. jmm, old as he is, still is a well rated challenger to pac....
d. styles make fight
win or lose, jmm giving pac troubles as he did in the 2 previous fights will make fans happy to watch an action filled fight...something like an erik/maidana
not true.....pac and jmm are natyrally the same size...the huge diffrnce is, pac can compete with bigger guys, jmm cant......
they're about the same size maybe about a 4 to 5 pound edge to floyd no more
if mayweather was bigger the king of catchweights would have already demanded one