Does he apply constant pressure like with Berto. Or does he pick his spots to be aggressive, on the ropes. What punch does Ortiz have in his arsenal that may cause Mayweather problems? If you had to give a percentage what would be Ortiz chance to win?
He has to do what no other has done. He has to pull a "LaMotta vs SRR" style fight, where He's pushing, holding and bullying Mayweather all night. Make the fight an inside fight and slug Mayweather because if the fight becomes a boxing match, He has very little chances to win.
yeah i think this is his best chance
he needs to go to the body and pressure him...he cannot wait on floyd...he needs to constantly attack and even fight a little dirty because floyd most def will...still, i see floyd winning...in the face off interview floyd was pretty much laughing in ortiz's face and not taking him serious at all...
He has to do what no other has done. He has to pull a "LaMotta vs SRR" style fight, where He's pushing, holding and bullying Mayweather all night. Make the fight an inside fight and slug Mayweather because if the fight becomes a boxing match, He has very little chances to win.
There's nothing he can do. Everything he does Floyd does better. He can hope to catch Floyd and knock him out. That's it. Gonna be a long night for Victor.
Throw as many punchers as he can possibly throw, all with mustard on them. His only prayer is a KO within 4 before PBF gets warmed up. He can't take a second off or any backward steps.
His best bet is to make it ugly. Stay on the inside, clinch, hug and punch, maybe an accidental headbutt here and there and hope he gets cut, low blow him at least once, hold his head down while delivering an uppercut. Anything to damage him and slow him down that he can get away with without being DQ'd because he sure as hell is not going to outbox him.
Yeah...i hate to say it but he really has to make it a fight a war! But here is the catch it has to be a measured war. If he can get Him into something that looked like the early rounds of the Chop Chop fight... he's headed in the right direction i think. If he can add ripples of boxing slickness he's in the right ball park i think. But ultimately i think there needs to be a choice made outside of the ring like he did in the Berto fight. The will to do whatever it takes to win.
Is it possible for Ortiz to have a gameplan from round to round to sort of speak offset Mayweathers adjustments. What I see in many of his opponents is they get into rhythm and once he finds their rhythm he picks them apart. My thing why not really have a couple of gameplans but have one from round to round and never fight in any sort of rhythm.
Although that might be uncomfortable for Ortiz it may also be somewhat confusing to Mayweather. I know getting in some sort of rhythm for a boxer is important for confidence but boxers who fight with no set rhythm like Mayweather himself frustrate even the best boxers. So why isnt no one really ever tries against Mayweather.
Ortiz could go hard first two rounds using he strengths right hook and the left straight primarily and switch up and use a jab and fients to throw the straight. Just keep giving him different looks round making sure he close the rounds strong with flurries and possibly steal them.
His best bet is to make it ugly. Stay on the inside, clinch, hug and punch, maybe an accidental headbutt here and there and hope he gets cut, low blow him at least once, hold his head down while delivering an uppercut. Anything to damage him and slow him down that he can get away with without being DQ'd because he sure as hell is not going to outbox him.
Yea, I agree. I also thin he needs to really watch out for that right hand that's coming at him.
Floyd throws it with such accuracy and speed, it could be the biggest weapon for him that night.
His best bet is to make it ugly. Stay on the inside, clinch, hug and punch, maybe an accidental headbutt here and there and hope he gets cut, low blow him at least once, hold his head down while delivering an uppercut. Anything to damage him and slow him down that he can get away with without being DQ'd because he sure as hell is not going to outbox him.
A stiff jab will keep Floyd honest. Ortiz has a decent jab. If he does go in, that jab should serve him well, and despite what people think, Floyd does move straight back especially when being pressured. It's when you give him room and time, he creates an angle.
Ortiz may not be the best boxer but he does have good technical ability that coupled with youth, he may use foot work to cut the ring off and create his own angles. Ortiz is effective when he gets someone on the ropes and incorporates the uppercut well in his attack.
Yeah i think your right. But i think he has to loop his right hook to the body sometimes. to open up floyd for the straight left hand. he has to do it on a dry run not allot of pop to see if he can catch 'em. But besides that he has to maintain his defense huge errors in the Berto fight cannot show up in the May fight.
I think Ortiz actually has all the tools but he needs to focus and a strategy now. It has to be multi layered because as soon as Floyd adjust there has to be a second one to take it's place. I think Ortiz has to use his raw natural ability but some small definite improvements technically. You can't reinvent Ortiz but you have to add one major piece with a few tweaks so that he maintains and develops them at a high level for the fight.
I think floyd is vulnerable early because he presses the pace and instills the rhythm of the fight true. but i think that also pressures fighters to give up their hand early to see what they have. Did it to Shane and it paid off in spades.
non-stop pressure would be the key for ortiz in this fight. but that is impossible if you don't have the proper conditioning to achieve long lasting stamina.
ortiz needs to employ state of the art conditioning, not old school type. consult george st pierre of montreal or one with similar regimen.
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pressure is key, but smart pressure. non stop pressure doesn't exist. There is always an ebb and flow. watch any match and you'll see it.
Yes i think that's true that's been established but there are pieces to the puzzle that have to be figured out. like should he throw in exchanges. Foot work how to work his way in... no jab i feel is a big issue.
What if ortiz leads in with a right hook straight left hand. he has to bridge the gap so that it's consistent. I'm watching the corley fight now...
A stiff jab will keep Floyd honest. Ortiz has a decent jab. If he does go in, that jab should serve him well, and despite what people think, Floyd does move straight back especially when being pressured. It's when you give him room and time, he creates an angle.
Ortiz may not be the best boxer but he does have good technical ability that coupled with youth, he may use foot work to cut the ring off and create his own angles. Ortiz is effective when he gets someone on the ropes and incorporates the uppercut well in his attack.
non-stop pressure would be the key for ortiz in this fight. but that is impossible if you don't have the proper conditioning to achieve long lasting stamina.
ortiz needs to employ state of the art conditioning, not old school type. consult george st pierre of montreal or one with similar regimen.
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Without a consistent, thudding jab it'll be tough. He needs to target Floyd's body and try to slow him down. Considering the layoff, it's possible. And very important, he needs to cut off the ring. Floyd is a master ring general and very rarely gets cornered. Ortiz needs to corner him and do damage. Especially in the early rounds, where Floyd has shown some vulnerabilty.
From what i have been seeing you have to pause floyd with body shots like a right hook to the body and then a hard left cross.
Corely caught and hurt Floyd when he was reaching for a right uppercut the body.
I just get the sense he has corrected some of these issues...
Floyd is a tuff nut to crack because there are so many things that one has to address...
I do think it starts with a jab and the right hook to the body to set up the left down the pipe. but when i think about if every power shot that's thrown if from Ortis right side his dominant hand. he has a sdecent right hook an ok left cross.
I still think he has to stay just outside of Floyds range to make him reach for some shots and hopefully catch him.
The thing that's hard or what i'm getting the sense is how technically proficient he is. Floyd so man bases covered. i think you really have to come with a complete gameplan to make a stand and win. He's still in his prime or close to it. Ortiz has to really cover allot of contrasts well to make this a fight. make him defend himself inside and make him hesitate (for fractions of a second at least outside.
feints, jabs, lead right hooks to his body as well as decent amount of pressure. only cracks the surface.
Floyd usually pressures southpaw fighters and breaks them down to the body.