~No Ceilings: Monthly P4P Rankings: June 8, 2011~

Here is the link from May. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479380 1. Sergio Martinez: The new P4P Number 1 imo. I cant stand this man because he destroyed my favorite fighter (Paul Williams) but I cant deny hes beastly. Hes been on a roll beating top Prime fighters. Cintron fight was a draw but we know the truth. He stopped Cintron. Outboxed Pavlik to win the Lineal Middleweight crown. Destroyed consensus Top 10 P4Pounder and even some publications and sites had him Top 5 and Top 3 fighter in Paul Williams. Then went on to outbox and stop JMW King, Dzizniruk. His chasing of Ishida, Zbik and Chavez worries me but hopefully he faces another top fighter. Update: Has a fight scheduled for October 1st. Allegedly against Daniel Geale, new IBF Middleweight Champion. 2. Manny Pacquiao: Former Number 1. I have to drop him to number 2. He put on a lackluster performance against a dead man walking. His post presser comment of "If he doesnt want to fight what do i do" was disgusting and showed how little hes really improved. Um Manny you....adjust? I dont know cut the ring off maybe? Go to the body? Counter the jab over the top? Anyway ever since he waxed Cotto hes been downhill opponent wise. Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and now rumour has it JMM at 147. Hes wasting some good years of his career. Very good fighter, good person and a beast in the ring but he needs to go back to 2008 form. When he was a KILLER. His excessive glove touching almost made me throw up. Hes too nice at times. And before you say well it was Shane starting it. I'll tell you this Shane tried to touch gloves with Floyd one too many times and Floyd punched him in the face. Shane didnt attempt it again. Update: Manny and Arum were constantly called out by Mayweather. Floyd said his legal troubles were no problem and that he even went as far to get his trunks and robe ready. Top Rank never repsonded. But Top Rank were quick to type up a response to" The Article" a few weeks back. He also signed to fight Marquez.....at WW. :( 3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.: IMO hes the best fighter in all of boxing. Hands down. Just way too inactive. Really needs to get back in the ring. Money is wasting the last years of his career by being so inactive. Update: Signed on to make the bigest WW fight since Mosley-Floyd by fighting Victor Ortiz in September. 4. Nonito Donaire: I was a devout hater of this man because he fought fighters way below his talent level for YEARS. It was like he beat Vic and just dissapeared. His destruction of Montiel who destroyed another fave of mine in Hasegawa was just brutal. Almost decapitated the guy. Rumoured to being going after Vic, Arce and Moreno. Update: Sadly nothing. Thanks Bobby. 5. Wladimir Klitschko: I dont like him. At all. But I wont deny his talent, skill level and the fact that even though the heavies suck its not his fault. He just wipes his butt with everyone he faces. Fighting David Haye next in what is imo the biggest heavyweight fight in years. Haye has the elusiveness, expolsiveness, speed and one punch KO power to off Wlads on switch ,should be a great fight. 6. JMM: What can I say. The stone throwing, piss drinking master boxer still has it. Dude can still fight even at what 37? In the last 5 years has only 2 Losses to : Floyd and Pacquiao. Hes the number 1 Lightweight in the world. The division doesnt have much to offer him but I still hate the Diaz fight. Its a joke. Rumoured to fight Pac again...ofcourse at a weight where he wont be that effective. Update: Diaz fight canceled. 7. Andre Ward: My boy S.O.G. Imo the BEST 168 pounder in the world. Has a complte game. Offense, defense, strength, speed, smarts, deceptive power and a good beard to boot. You can make the case that he hasnt lost a legit round since 2009. Hes been dominating people with ease. I fully expect him to once again shut out another fighter against AA. Update: He did just that and domianted AA to make into the finals against Carl Froch. 8. Carl Froch:is a flat out beast. Look at this resume; Since 2008 hes fought in order Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler and AA and is scheduled to fight the Road Warrior. Sick, sick gauntlet to go through and imo he beat Kessler and lost to Dirrell. Froch not Pac has the best resume in boxing right now and its not even close. Update: Add Glen Johnson, who just stopped Alan Green to that list. 9. Bernard Hopkins: What is he 50 years old now? Just schooled Pascal didnt win the fight according to the judges though. Rematch coming up, if he stays on his feet he beats Pascal easily. Gotta watch the flash KD's. Update: Flat out dominated Pascal to become the oldest World Champion in boxing history. Props to BHOP. Too add to his legacy hes fighting Chad Dawson next. 10. Tim Bradley: Hes dominated everybody hes ever faced and as much as it pains me to say this hes the man right now at 140. He beat another fave of mine in Alexander in one of the ugliest fights of the year. Also rumoured to fight Pacquiao. Allegedly ducked Amir Khan but if its for a Pac fight cant really call it ducking. Update: Turns out I was wrong. He really did duck Amir Khan. I almost want to throw him off the list. Coward move. Outside Looking in: Cotto, Wonjongkam, Segura, Haye, Williams, Gamboa, Khan and Cunningham.

Comments (20)

I don't think hes p4p material either, but I'm not mad at his divisional ranking, the division is truly awful. I'm not mad at his ranking since he is the 3rd best fighter at HW despite his woeful resume at HW. I just can't think of HW in history who was ranked in the Top 3 for 2 years with a HW resume as bad as Haye's. And just cannot see an argument for him being anywhere near the Top 10 P4P list.

14y ago

Rico1965

Very well stated good list

14y ago

BURNER

Froch has done more than Ward. Meh Froch has a better resume. I think Ward being the better fighter and completly dominating a guy that beat Froch puts him over.

14y ago

RubenSonny

That's correct. That was in 2009. Since then he has fought 2 unranked fighters in close to 2 years. If that is enough to be close to the P4P Top 10 then God help me. I don't think hes p4p material either, but I'm not mad at his divisional ranking, the division is truly awful.

14y ago

IronDanHamza

I coulda swore Haye only got ranked after Valuev win?? That's correct. That was in 2009. Since then he has fought 2 unranked fighters in close to 2 years. If that is enough to be close to the P4P Top 10 then God help me.

14y ago

Joeyzagz

Generally No Ceilings is a sh.tty poster but I must give him credit for this fantastic list. Sergio #1 With Wlad, Floyd and Froch making an appearance. He has the most realistic assessment of boxing on this site.

14y ago

lfc19titles

good list but number 1 and 2 should be changed also the mayweather calling him out bit was a cheap shot, you know as well as i do that neither arum or floyd want the fight, perhaps the only one is pac but he is a yes man which is a shame

14y ago

THE_REED

Only thing I might consider is pulling Wlad out at #5... taking JMM, Ward, Froch, moving all of them up one notch and putting Wlad at #8, based purely on level of competition. Is it Wlads fault? Absolutely not, but JMM, Ward, and especially Froch have fought a higher level of competition. Beating Haye would change that, though.

14y ago

RubenSonny

Thankfully, Adamek hasn't been ranked in the Top 3 for the last few years at HW like Haye has whilst doing absolutely nothing at the weight. I coulda swore Haye only got ranked after Valuev win??

14y ago

LupinIII

enjoyed reading that good list

14y ago

THE_REED

Good read, thanks.

14y ago

Mr_Philadel

Nice breakdown. Wish Hopkins was higher but the rankings seem on point. this^^^^^^^^ but the dudes thats above him on the list have been doing their thing...so I guess its all good :cool2:

14y ago

BTL

Donito is good but shouldn't be on the list

14y ago

IronDanHamza

In all honesty its at least as good as Adameks, though he obviously started out as a LHW. Thankfully, Adamek hasn't been ranked in the Top 3 for the last few years at HW like Haye has whilst doing absolutely nothing at the weight.

14y ago

sNiTcH

good list :) you should remove that bum in your sig :D

14y ago

IronDanHamza

I agree with that. Man you know what would bring this division back to life? Haye vs. Wlad is already a big fight. Haye wins and Adamek beats Vitali to make Haye-Adamek. Ahh yes. Awesomeness. 2 great heavyweight fights. I'd like that fight. Shame Haye won't beat Wlad and Adamek won't beat Vitali. Maybe they can have a losers fight?

14y ago

Talented

No complaints from me, good list. :fing02:

14y ago

madsweeney

Cut the ring off. Double the jab to stop the fighter in his tracks. Go to the body to take his legs from him. No it did not. I scored all 12 rounds for Manny. No Floyd would not. Thats not his style to do so. It is Mannys to put on a show and give the fans a fight. Even against Clottey he kept throwing regardless and no one blamed that stinker on him. We all blamed Clottey and rightfully so. Against Mosley he looked like a lost puppy when Mosley was circling and jabbing. Which is why I said he hasnt really improved as a fighter as much as we think he has. Also to add I dont think it wouldve been risky for Pac to rush Mosley. He was a dead man walking. Remember the 10th round when Manny about went nuts on Shane because he had a fluke KD called aginst him? Thats what Manny should have done the whole fight. So now thats not an unnescary risk because it was clear Shane wanted to quit and that he was afraid of Manny. Thanks for the honest answer, I agree, Manny should have been more aggressive like in the 10th when he showed he could cut him off and get to him. Perhaps his leg was bothering him like he said or perhaps he was taking it easy on Mosley but he should not have coasted like that but if the leg thing was true, I can understand. Perhaps Pac has gotten to a point where Maywether has been for a while, so much better than their opponents they get lazy in the ring (and boring) because there's no challenge. I just hope JMM has enough in him in this next fight to remind us the 08-09 Pac but I just think JMM (because of age/weight and Pac's improvement) and Ortiz (who is a glorified journeyman) just don't have what it takes to really challenge these guys.

14y ago

Welsh_Jon

Good list. Personally I wouldn't rank Martinez as number 1 yet cos I think the p4p list should represent quality over a number of years. Even though he's the best in the world at the mo, people who have preformed year after year should maybe rank higher than him.

14y ago

BURNER

:lol1: Good run at Crusierweight. I can respect that. However, his run at HW is argubally the worst I have ever witnessed of someone who has consistently being ranked in the Top 3 for so long. I agree with that. Man you know what would bring this division back to life? Haye vs. Wlad is already a big fight. Haye wins and Adamek beats Vitali to make Haye-Adamek. Ahh yes. Awesomeness. 2 great heavyweight fights.

14y ago