Pac can catch you on the way in, and once you are inside, but no he doesn't fight on the inside, it's not his style.
By the same token, Mayweather, although great at it, hasn't fought on the inside in some time.
Mayweather has the speed and athletic ability to do what he does, but time and size have made him use his boxing more then before, and he's an excellent boxer, which is why he's one of the best.
sad but true, this is why the mayweather fight is so important.
mayweather can apply efficient and effective inside treatment to pacquiao without getting hit in the face ala hatton while trying to rush in.
i have seen pacquiao get off some decent shots, but its not an area of comfort, and hes not going to all of the sudden learn to be great at it. I think i agree with some of the other posters that often times hes looking at the ref to break up the action. In later rounds however, i have noticed pac not being....how can i say, as fresh as he could be.
The only opponent within his range with any sort of ability on the inside with defensive effectiveness is floyd and thats the only standard we have to judge on.
Pacquiao looks confused most of the time with either movement or within the confines of the clinch. nobody whom he has fought can really effectively use angles and successfully rough him up on the inside.
You cant just walk in which is what guys like margarito and hatton do. Also, i consider barrera a much more effective boxer than any inside presence IMO, i know early in his career he would go to war, however i wasnt some huge fan of his inside game. He was better and prolonged his career as a boxer.
i've seen him plenty of times combo with uppercuts in the inside, and have seen him stick to inside fighting for a good portion of a round, except it's usually in the middle of the ring
well, committing to an inside game pretty much kills one of his best assets; footspeed...so i can see why he doesn't engage in that style
and yea, Duran coming in and applying intense inside pressure...causing damage...PAC slipping back to get midrange and unloading combos? i can only daydream about scraps like that
Definitely. That's Pac's style in one, mid-range. So he use those gifts such as footspeed, handspeed and angles etc.
Man, I would just love to see that kind of match up. Something Boxing has missed for a long time between 2 ATG's.
I favour Duran, though. :D
great points...i guess the only thing im saying is that good/great inside fighters are few and far between...you'd have to look at past greats or higher weight fighters...there aren't that many good ones at the lower weights that could apply an effective inside attack against him...im not saying he's a great inside fighter himself because he hasn't been forced to show the ability...i guess all you could say is that he handles that inside pressure well with his own adjustments
It's true. I can't think of many great inside fighters he could have faced throughout his career. Reality is there pretty much isn't any.
Yeah, he's never had to show how good he is inside because the oens that have tried his specfic style is a perfect kryptonite for it. Pac has shown time and time again if you try and solely out muscle your way to the inside you are in for a long and painful night.
That's exactly it. His ability has handled the fighters, very good ones at that, that have tried to get inside. I think the problem people have had especially in recent years is they think they can muscle there way in. That is just not going to work, ever.
Like I said, I would have loved to see how Pac were to deal with Duran's inside game and excellent defense because I think it's inevitable Duran would get on the inside with Pac and then we would really see how he would do there.
From what I see, though, Pac doesn't seem like he ever wants to fight inside.
lmao...u are and will always be a joke poster. with that said...u may continue being an idiot.
lol you can't even be consistent. if my post does not interest you, you should've ignored it. that's what i do with stupid posters and their posts unless they acknowledge me first so i have to reply sometimes. but you, you can't resist to try and catch my attention...why is that huh? happy now you got my attention? faqqot:nutkick:
it's not your thread so shut the fukk up. go and start your own and i will not bother your circle jerk...idiot.
lmao...u are and will always be a joke poster. with that said...u may continue being an idiot.
yea, there are many nuances to it. its not just rushing in and getting your opponent against the ropes. imo its a dying art. mebbe because it isnt seen as being spectaular or perhaps because of the way the ams in the states and around the world have been structured. but many of the greatest fighters in history were just as skilled on the inside as they were on the outside. thats usually part of what made them the best.
Exactly, there is different ways to fight on the inside, Pernell Whitaker is vastly different to say Julio Cesar Chavez when its comes to the inside.
Another very good point, Just look at Charles, Duran, etc.
lol i see a lot of answers is a no. the question is very simple...can manny fight in the inside? it didn't ask whether pac is an inside fighter or not.
again...can he fight in the inside? of course he can if he want to. now is he going to be effective? probably not because he didn't apply such style in his fights.
bottomline is...any fighter can't be good at everything. imagine if pac is a good inside fighter in addition to the weapons he already has? he'll be required to undergo an alien test.
way to kill a good discussion derp!
Its mostly chalked up to people not understanding inside fighting, only recently have people really recognised Floyd in that aspect.
yea, there are many nuances to it. its not just rushing in and getting your opponent against the ropes. imo its a dying art. mebbe because it isnt seen as being spectaular or perhaps because of the way the ams in the states and around the world have been structured. but many of the greatest fighters in history were just as skilled on the inside as they were on the outside. thats usually part of what made them the best.
lol i see a lot of answers is a no. the question is very simple...can manny fight in the inside? it didn't ask whether pac is an inside fighter or not.
again...can he fight in the inside? of course he can if he want to. now is he going to be effective? probably not because he didn't apply such style in his fights.
bottomline is...any fighter can't be good at everything. imagine if pac is a good inside fighter in addition to the weapons he already has? he'll be required to undergo an alien test.
Basically. I wouldn't even characterize Hatton as an inside-fighter. Just a mauler, basically.
Its mostly chalked up to people not understanding inside fighting, only recently have people really recognised Floyd in that aspect.
remove jlc. as far as the ppl u named, i dont see any of them as being real infighters. theres a difference between truly fighting inside and in the pocket and being a pressure fighter who bullies his way on the inside.
modern day infighters are guys like floyd/ward/hop. excellent defense and offense on the inside. older infighters, guys like jcc and marvin hagler roberto duran. next to these level of infighters names like rios/margarito is basically ****.
Excellent post.