People criticising Marley's article

Im sorry stefl14. I know how you feel. But unfotunely Martinez has EVERY RIGHT to request a bout with Mayweather or Pacquiao, seeing that once fought at that weight division, he's not asking them to fight at a weight class that they haven't, he just saying to come back up to that weight class once more to face me. However what your doing is asking him to go up to a weight class that he has never been at, and that IS wrong. Fine, but nobody can call Pac a ducker for not facing Martinez. I don't give credit for his "8th weight class title" and no credible boxing fan does. But it is just ridiculous to call Pac a ducker for not accepting a fight which is not competitive and he would lose by knockout.

Im sorry stefl14. I know how you feel. But unfotunely Martinez has EVERY RIGHT to request a bout with Mayweather or Pacquiao, seeing that once fought at that weight division, he's not asking them to fight at a weight class that they haven't, he just saying to come back up to that weight class once more to face me. However what your doing is asking him to go up to a weight class that he has never been at, and that IS wrong.

i think it would be competitive, marg at 165 was one sided in pacs favor its only 3 more pounds right? It wouldn't. Martinez is that much better than Margarito and his style plus being southpaw would be a nightmare for Pacquiao. Resulting in a for sure KO.

i think it would be competitive, marg at 165 was one sided in pacs favor its only 3 more pounds right? Martinez is a little heavier, much much faster and a much much harder puncher.

Well said. I think if Martinez got a 168 title i'm sure he would run back down to 160, and then the real SMW's would start calling him out like "well you won a title here, come visit us again some time". But, Martinez never went up to win a title at SMW :lol1: This doesn't change the fact that Pacquiao vs Martinez is not competitive at all. People only won't this fight because Pacquiao would get knocked out. B.Hop vs Martinez would not be competitive either.

Mayweather and Pac are both former 154 pound title holders Martinez has every right to call them out and being that Manny and Floyd can make weight below 154 they have every right to decline. Last time I checked Martinez never claimed a championship at 168 or 175 and he can still get down to 154. Well said. I think if Martinez got a 168 title i'm sure he would run back down to 160, and then the real SMW's would start calling him out like "well you won a title here, come visit us again some time". But, Martinez never went up to win a title at SMW :lol1:

That's the point exactly. Both claims are stupid. You have to understand there are dumbass posters on this site and apparently dumbass writers. Martinez shouldn't fight Pacquiao because he IS too big. The same with Hopkins fighting Martinez. Don't you think it's ridiculous to want Hopkins fighting Martinez? Since it's the same concept as Martines vs Pacquiao. Yes I do. That is my point. I am saying that people should not expect Pac to fight Martinez the same way Martinez should not fight Hopkins. Martinez wants a payday and says he would KO Pac. Great. He should KO Pac since he is a powerpuncher (recently, not in his early career) and has a 20 pound weight advantage.

You are missing the point. People act like the prospect of Martinez fighting Hopkins is ridiculous because of the weight difference. But the same people say that Pac should fight Martinez when the weight difference is even bigger. That's the point exactly. Both claims are stupid. You have to understand there are dumbass posters on this site and apparently dumbass writers. Martinez shouldn't fight Pacquiao because he IS too big. The same with Hopkins fighting Martinez. Don't you think it's ridiculous to want Hopkins fighting Martinez? Since it's the same concept as Martines vs Pacquiao.

I don't see anything wrong with Martinez fighting Hopkins, if Hopkins can make 160. I'm sure Martinez feels the same way. But at a weight that he's never fought at before??..... Pac has fought (for Martinez' belt) at 154lbs. People keep mentioning how Pac has fought at 154 but that still doesn't change the fact that the difference in weight between Martinez and Hopkins would be smaller than the difference between Pacquiao and Martinez. Margarito is a little smaller than Martinez and at this stage sucks compared to martinez. He does not punch half as hard as Martinez. Why do people bash Pac for fighting dodgy competition then ask Pac to fight Martinez, a fight which is not competitive at all as Pac would lose by KO.

In my view, Martinez fighting Hopkins is as ridiculous as Pacquiao fighting Martinez. Neither fight is good because the smaller guy gets dominated or dominated and knocked out in both of these fights. I don't see anything wrong with Martinez fighting Hopkins, if Hopkins can make 160. I'm sure Martinez feels the same way. But at a weight that he's never fought at before??..... Pac has fought (for Martinez' belt) at 154lbs.

:bottle::bottle::bottle::bottle: Jeez, this is the 5th thread on this subject today, and it says the exact same thing every other thread has been saying on the subject...

I agree for the most part but Marley's article about Martinez being a bully and that he should fight Hopkins is ridiculous for the reasons I stated before.Imo he comes off like a biased fan. In my view, Martinez fighting Hopkins is as ridiculous as Pacquiao fighting Martinez. Neither fight is good because the smaller guy gets dominated or dominated and knocked out in both of these fights.

I understand this point and I understand why Pac has been getting stick lately for his competition but the fact of the matter is he is not a JMW. He is not even a welterweight really (look at his fight night weight). Even though Pac's competition has not been great recently, I don't see the point of him fighting someone who is 20 pounds more than him on fight night. It would basically be a guaranteed knockout loss. I agree for the most part but Marley's article about Martinez being a bully and that he should fight Hopkins is ridiculous for the reasons I stated before.Imo he comes off like a biased fan.

was`nt margarito fight night weight 160-165 when he fought pacquiao?martinez would make the fight at 154 so he would likely come in around the same same size marg came in for the pacquiao fight.so no excuses for pacquaio ducking martinez. Then there is no excuse for people who say Martinez is too small to fight at light heavy. This argument is invalid since Margarito does not punch anything like as hard as Martinez. Pacquiao cherry picked him, I admit that. Fighting Martinez is basically a guaranteed knockout loss for Pacquiao. You people criticise pacquiao for fighting guys have no change but you want a non competitive fight between sergio and pacquiao...

No I understand what you're trying to say but you're missing the point because comparing the two situations doesn't make sense because Mayweather and Pac have had titles at the weight Martinez is challenging them at and Martinez has never fought or held a title at 175 where a Hopkins fight would be at. You know the real reason why there's so much resistance against Martinez, it's not his weight, he still has a pulse so all these d!ckriders will protect their God's at all cost.

No I understand what you're trying to say but you're missing the point because comparing the two situations doesn't make sense because Mayweather and Pac have had titles at the weight Martinez is challenging them at and Martinez has never fought or held a title at 175 where a Hopkins fight would be at. I understand this point and I understand why Pac has been getting stick lately for his competition but the fact of the matter is he is not a JMW. He is not even a welterweight really (look at his fight night weight). Even though Pac's competition has not been great recently, I don't see the point of him fighting someone who is 20 pounds more than him on fight night. It would basically be a guaranteed knockout loss.

pac vs vitali when Nonito vs Vitali. Errr... Nonito by "DQ". Nonito punches Vitali's "caviars" off. DQ was not applicable as Cortez refuses to stop the fight.

You are missing the point. People act like the prospect of Martinez fighting Hopkins is ridiculous because of the weight difference. But the same people say that Pac should fight Martinez when the weight difference is even bigger. No I understand what you're trying to say but you're missing the point because comparing the two situations doesn't make sense because Mayweather and Pac have had titles at the weight Martinez is challenging them at and Martinez has never fought or held a title at 175 where a Hopkins fight would be at.

Mayweather and Pac are both former 154 pound title holders Martinez has every right to call them out and being that Manny and Floyd can make weight below 154 they have every right to decline. Last time I checked Martinez never claimed a championship at 168 or 175 and he can still get down to 154. You are missing the point. People act like the prospect of Martinez fighting Hopkins is ridiculous because of the weight difference. But the same people say that Pac should fight Martinez when the weight difference is even bigger.

pac vs vitali when