The heavyweights of today are talentless and that includes the Klitschkos

Like they were filled with talent during the Tyson and Holmes era? The problem is that 2 great HWs are stomping the competition instead of one. Pretty sure if those 2 didn't exist, Americans would be jumping on Arreloa, Haye and Eddie Chambers as great by now. Good call, Legend! :usa: Thats right all of you must bow to my superior knowledge.

They actually were a lot more talented . They werent the most dedicated werent the fittest of athletes but the likes of tony tubbs, pinklon thomas , tim witherspoon, greg page, michael dokes could box . The problem with the heavyweights today is not so much the lack of talent. Its more that these heavyweight arent being taught the sweet science . Wladimir depsite his lack of talent and boxing skills is dominating the division not because he has great boxing skills but because he has one of the most succesful and knowledgable boxing trainers out there in manny steward who has taught them basic fundamentals . How to use his height and reach to keep his opponents at bay . I mean it is no coincidence that the guy who is dominating the divsion has the best trainer in the business . I mean who is training david haye . Adam booth i mean who the **** did he ever train . I mean booth probably never even fought in his life . I mean who is training arreola, peters, boystov,perez, chirosa, helenius . I tell you who a bunch of clowns who never boxed in their life and know nothing about the sweet science. I mean no wonder the heavyweight divsion is at an all time low when you have a bunch of amateurs training all the heavyweights. I if these guys were training tyson in the eighties he would never of become heavyweight champion. I mean a fighter is only as good as their trainers . We saw what happened to tyson once he left rooney who was expert on the peek a boo style. Good call, Legend! :usa:

Like they were filled with talent during the Tyson and Holmes era? The problem is that 2 great HWs are stomping the competition instead of one. Pretty sure if those 2 didn't exist, Americans would be jumping on Arreloa, Haye and Eddie Chambers as great by now. They actually were a lot more talented . They werent the most dedicated werent the fittest of athletes but the likes of tony tubbs, pinklon thomas , tim witherspoon, greg page, michael dokes could box . The problem with the heavyweights today is not so much the lack of talent. Its more that these heavyweight arent being taught the sweet science . Wladimir depsite his lack of talent and boxing skills is dominating the division not because he has great boxing skills but because he has one of the most succesful and knowledgable boxing trainers out there in manny steward who has taught them basic fundamentals . How to use his height and reach to keep his opponents at bay . I mean it is no coincidence that the guy who is dominating the divsion has the best trainer in the business . I mean who is training david haye . Adam booth i mean who the **** did he ever train . I mean booth probably never even fought in his life . I mean who is training arreola, peters, boystov,perez, chirosa, helenius . I tell you who a bunch of clowns who never boxed in their life and know nothing about the sweet science. I mean no wonder the heavyweight divsion is at an all time low when you have a bunch of amateurs training all the heavyweights. I if these guys were training tyson in the eighties he would never of become heavyweight champion. I mean a fighter is only as good as their trainers . We saw what happened to tyson once he left rooney who was expert on the peek a boo style.

I'd have no fears for current Wlad against any recent American except Tyson circa 86-88.

Yes the heavyweights today are sub standard and that includes the klitschkos . Why are the klitschkos dominating the division . Its very simple because they are much taller than their opponents they are able to keep them at bay with their jab . The Klischkos dont have a particularly good jab . Its just that their opponents dont have any headmovement to avoid it. If any of these guys like boystov or perez could learn to move their head they could beat these statues. They have no footwork , no boxing skills and cant fight inside . Infact they grab like an octupus anytime any of their opponents get close. As for haye yes he has got talent he has speed, power and reflexes but he never learned how to box . He has no jab, lousy footwork, not enough head movement and jumps in and leaves his chin exposed . If haye learned how to box he would easily knock klitschco out. I bow to you, Legend of NSB! :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

question is... do the klitschkos have the skills to be fleet footed like Ali?

Steve Cunningham should move up to HW. He'd be the best in-shape HW there in a long time, including over Klits. Not that he'd beat them easily, but I bet out of all the American HW's Cunningham can probably be the best HW out there because he actually takes his health and physique serious unlike the current HW's.