Its a stumbling block because its Floyd's date and venue, doesn't matter when it is or how good it is. Arum and Pac egos are too big to just agree to do it on Floyds terms.
Floyd had to know this. These 2 sides know each other well enough by now.
Thats what they do. Make token efforts and try to look like your the one who wants the fight. Each side relying on the other sides egos to keep the fight from happening and keep interest in the 2 fighters, so they can make big money taking easy fights.
Like i said they know each other so well and know how to leave just enough roadblocks for the other side to have an out. They have if down to a science.
If they're serious about making the fight, there's no stumbling block. Just make the call and figure out how to make it. Going around talking about stumbling blocks is just another excuse.
Your an imbecile ,,,, Roach has said WE WANT FLOYD ,,,, ok do you understand that so far ,,,,, normal official method ,,, CONTACT AL HAYMON just like all of Floyds opponents have done ,,,,
Arums special Floyd method, contact us Floyd because its you we want to fight , just hold the line if its busy Floyd we might be contacting Clottey Margo JMM or Bradley when you ring lol ,,,,,
Fuk of kid your so gullible to Arum !
Nope Floyd could have done better if he really wants the fight....I thought he is his own promoter, he could have spearheaded the negotiations and force Manny to sign but he didnt do that.....Try hard Flomo
May 5th is a Primo date its not like Floyd picked random dates like say March 13th or November 13th and put up a countdown clock two weeks after Pac vs JMM III
and why would it be a stumbling block if Arum been saying Manny vs Marquez would likely fight again on May 5th
Its a stumbling block because its Floyd's date and venue, doesn't matter when it is or how good it is. Arum and Pac egos are too big to just agree to do it on Floyds terms.
Floyd had to know this. These 2 sides know each other well enough by now.
Thats what they do. Make token efforts and try to look like your the one who wants the fight. Each side relying on the other sides egos to keep the fight from happening and keep interest in the 2 fighters, so they can make big money taking easy fights.
Like i said they know each other so well and know how to leave just enough roadblocks for the other side to have an out. They have if down to a science.
So when Mayweather came out of retirement after the Hatton fight he made no mention of Pacquiao but then fought the LW champ and that was September of 09. Then two months later in November of 09 Pacquaio beats Cotto and when all focus shifts back at Floyd his response was he wasnt even thinking about boxing and he wants to go on vacation and never calls Manny out on Twitter or anything and then goes 17 months without fighting.
But somehow that is 2 plus years of the Pacquaio camp making excuses. Some people have short memories.
Not sure why Pacquaio doesnt say he is not fighting again unless it is Floyd and Arum pisses me off to no end. But dont act like now it is all Manny's fault.
I'm not a rocket scientist, but something tells me that if a fighter says that he isn't interesting in fighting, and then takes over a year to make his next bout, then he was probably being serious when he said he wasn't thinking about fighting.
There's no guarantee that Floyd would come back looking as sharp as he did after taking the kinds of layoffs that he took, so the argument that Floyd was 'just ducking' Pacquiao so he could fight at a later time when Pacquiao's skills diminished never made sense to me, especially considering that Floyd is 2 years older than Manny.
Theres a huge difference between what Mayweather did and what Pacquiao is doing now. Pacquiao IS interested in fighting, but not against Floyd, which has been made obvious. I don't have a huge problem with Mayweather taking a vacation if his heart truly wasn't in the mind frame of making another fight. I do, however, have a huge problem with Pacquiao blatantly ducking Mayweather by making a fight in June when he's more than capable of fighting in May. Its pretty sad.
and yes- There have been 2+ years of Pacquiao camp excuses, smoke and mirrors, and blatant fabrications. Floyd has gone on record with one request: Random blood and urine tests. That's it. Everything else that he has been accused of demanding is either hearsay or a flat out fabrication on the part of Bob Arum.
Why would Team Mayweather announce it a week before the 3rd fight b/w Pacquaio-Marquez ?
Because they were preparing for his next fight, no reason to consult with Team Pacquiao. Especially now that we know Pacquiao is refusing to negotiate.
I agree with your last statement.
But again, why would you book somewhere and a date without at least going in and doing negotiations? That's just Floyd saying he is running the show. You know if Arum would have said he booked Manny for May 5th then Floyd would have come out said, "see he showing he dont want to fight us b/c he is picking dates and venues without even contacting us."
Floyd was preparing for his next fight. Pacquiao had not yet fought Marquez, there was no fight to negotiate until Pacquiao had won and when he did win, Bob refused to negotiate. Get your facts straight. Freddie Roach claims they've been chasing Mayweather for 2 years so why would you let Mayweather off the hook now that you've got him where you want him?
actually Arum did say Manny is booked for March 13 2010 while Mayweather team wanted to fight in May- june 2010 but that wasn't the deal breaker was it? matter of fact Arum did that again picked November 13th for Manny's return fight
I honestly can't believe some fans buy into that excuse
Why would Team Mayweather announce it a week before the 3rd fight b/w Pacquaio-Marquez ?
I agree with your last statement.
But again, why would you book somewhere and a date without at least going in and doing negotiations? That's just Floyd saying he is running the show. You know if Arum would have said he booked Manny for May 5th then Floyd would have come out said, "see he showing he dont want to fight us b/c he is picking dates and venues without even contacting us."
actually Arum did say Manny is booked for March 13 2010 while Mayweather team wanted to fight in May- june 2010 but that wasn't the deal breaker was it? matter of fact Arum did that again picked November 13th for Manny's return fight
I honestly can't believe some fans buy into that excuse
May 5th is a Primo date its not like Floyd picked random dates like say March 13th or November 13th and put up a countdown clock two weeks after Pac vs JMM III
and why would it be a stumbling block if Arum been saying Manny vs Marquez would likely fight again on May 5th
I agree with your last statement.
But again, why would you book somewhere and a date without at least going in and doing negotiations? That's just Floyd saying he is running the show. You know if Arum would have said he booked Manny for May 5th then Floyd would have come out said, "see he showing he dont want to fight us b/c he is picking dates and venues without even contacting us."
Then why book may 5 in November? Why hasn't he called Arum?
If you want a super fight like this you don't book yourself a date.
May knew dam well that may 5 would be a stumbling block that's why he did it
May 5th is a Primo date its not like Floyd picked random dates like say March 13th or November 13th and put up a countdown clock two weeks after Pac vs JMM III
and why would it be a stumbling block if Arum been saying Manny vs Marquez would likely fight again on May 5th
Thats a cute, political answer, but its been made pretty clear that Mayweather, infact, does want the fight. Lets not forget that he offered a 14 day cut off in the original negotiations, and hes been calling Pacquiao out since the week before the Marquez this time around. All we've heard out of the Pacquiao camp is excuse after excuse. For 2+ years.
So when Mayweather came out of retirement after the Hatton fight he made no mention of Pacquiao but then fought the LW champ and that was September of 09. Then two months later in November of 09 Pacquaio beats Cotto and when all focus shifts back at Floyd his response was he wasnt even thinking about boxing and he wants to go on vacation and never calls Manny out on Twitter or anything and then goes 17 months without fighting.
But somehow that is 2 plus years of the Pacquaio camp making excuses. Some people have short memories.
Not sure why Pacquaio doesnt say he is not fighting again unless it is Floyd and Arum pisses me off to no end. But dont act like now it is all Manny's fault.
Then why book may 5 in November? Why hasn't he called Arum?
If you want a super fight like this you don't book yourself a date.
May knew dam well that may 5 would be a stumbling block that's why he did it
they golden boy reached out to arum right after the marquez pac fight. and arum said he wanted a 4th fight with marquez
Thats a cute, political answer, but its been made pretty clear that Mayweather, infact, does want the fight. Lets not forget that he offered a 14 day cut off in the original negotiations, and hes been calling Pacquiao out since the week before the Marquez this time around. All we've heard out of the Pacquiao camp is excuse after excuse. For 2+ years.
Then why book may 5 in November? Why hasn't he called Arum?
If you want a super fight like this you don't book yourself a date.
May knew dam well that may 5 would be a stumbling block that's why he did it
NEither side wants the fight.
This us just free promotion for their next fights.
Floyd calls pac out on twitter then turns his phone off.
Meanwhile PAC agrees to the fight on a date he knows mayweather won't fight.
If Floyd was eve serious he wouldn't gave booked may 5 he would have negotiated the PAC fight.
Thats a cute, political answer, but its been made pretty clear that Mayweather, infact, does want the fight. Lets not forget that he offered a 14 day cut off in the original negotiations, and hes been calling Pacquiao out since the week before the Marquez this time around. All we've heard out of the Pacquiao camp is excuse after excuse. For 2+ years.
NEither side wants the fight.
This us just free promotion for their next fights.
Floyd calls pac out on twitter then turns his phone off.
Meanwhile PAC agrees to the fight on a date he knows mayweather won't fight.
If Floyd was eve serious he wouldn't gave booked may 5 he would have negotiated the PAC fight.