Among those from the sports world who were ranked in 2010 but fell off the most recent Forbes celebrity list were Michael Jordan (20th in 2010), Floyd Mayweather (31st), Shaquille O'Neal (52nd), Manny Pacquiao (55th) and Lance Armstrong (65th).
Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/more/wires/05/18/2080.ap.forbes.list.sports.1st.ld.writethru.0552/
Official Forbes Top 100 Celebrities List: http://www.forbes.com/wealth/celebrities
Yeah but you are only talking about a handful of boxers! Most boxers are journeyman who make a couple grand a fight. Thats the same ammount of money a journeyman UFC fighter makes. But! Journeyman boxers don't get advertisement money for wearing Tap out shirts or Afflictions shirts to the ring! They don't get the same advertisement money not even close. So yeah maybe the top 5 boxers in the world make millions but thats about it. 5 whole people!
yea but those 5 people make more money in 1 fight than every mma fighter in a ppv combined.
Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/more/wires/05/18/2080.ap.forbes.list.sports.1st.ld.writethru.0552/
Official Forbes Top 100 Celebrities List: http://www.forbes.com/wealth/celebrities
Who cares about Forbes what we care is what the PPV numbers say that's what tells you if Boxing is dying here but global it's doing quite well.
I think in the U.S. there's a combination of factors at play. For one, we have terrible income/wealth inequality, the poorer are poorer and actually at a point where there's hardly disposably income to spend on things like being a member at a boxing gym. Why spend money to be a boxer when you can have high school and college paid for by playing basketball or football? Boxing used to be one of THE ways for the urban poor to get out, now it's only A way.
In going with that, boxing is a sport that tough people love. Suburbanites aren't as tough as poor people, city people, etc generally. Generalizing for the sake of ease. I grew up in Queens myself and I know kids I grew up with/have met along the way in life from Queens, the Bronx, and elsewhere and it's always the same thing: "boxing is too expensive to just be a fan." You have to pay $55 to see the famous fighters? Why would anybody do that when they can watch basketball for free? Any day of the week too! Plus, fights that are on are on 1. too late for working people and 2. late-nights on Saturday nights aka when the youth are out partying.
If boxing got itself on earlier and more often for free people would absolutely watch. Remember, if kids are playing catch with a football on one corner and a fight breaks out across the street, people will always rush to go watch that fight. American society may be going soft, but human instincts love a good fight so boxing will never die, unless it kills itself.
The proof is in the numbers. Boxers make way more money and their PPVs do way more buys than MMA. I like both sports but let's not pretend that MMA comes anywhere close the amount of money boxing brings in.
Boxing has been around for centuries and it's not going anywhere.
Yeah but you are only talking about a handful of boxers! Most boxers are journeyman who make a couple grand a fight. Thats the same ammount of money a journeyman UFC fighter makes. But! Journeyman boxers don't get advertisement money for wearing Tap out shirts or Afflictions shirts to the ring! They don't get the same advertisement money not even close. So yeah maybe the top 5 boxers in the world make millions but thats about it. 5 whole people!
Hmm...i dont see any MMA Players there too, maybe MMA is dying?
Dying (Sports) meaning theres less and less players or fighters doin the game to the brink of extinction or death (no more)
Not making the "List" doesnt mean its dying and besides they are talking about individuals not the Sport it self
The proof is in the numbers. Boxers make way more money and their PPVs do way more buys than MMA. I like both sports but let's not pretend that MMA comes anywhere close the amount of money boxing brings in.
Boxing has been around for centuries and it's not going anywhere.
yeah cuz the guy in your sig has so many ppv sales lol. only pac and floyd sell ppv's, thats it. and floyd hasn't sold a ppv in a year so that only leaves pac.
I've seen many boxing is dying threads but this one takes the ****ing piss! boxing is dying cause 2 fighters are not considered top celebs (who gives a **** about celeb culture anyway).
The proof is in the numbers. Boxers make way more money and their PPVs do way more buys than MMA. I like both sports but let's not pretend that MMA comes anywhere close the amount of money boxing brings in.
Boxing has been around for centuries and it's not going anywhere.
Just because boxers make more money than MMA fighters doesn't mean it brings in more money than boxing does.
We're talking about Boxing in AMERICA. World wide, boxing is still going strong. In America, its suffering a slow and painful death. Do you understand why UFC fighters don't get paid as much as boxers do?
A typical UFC card will be stacked with more fighters, more production, basically more costs than a boxing card will. In a boxing card, the majority of the purse goes to the main headliners where as in a UFC card, the costs is split up to various factors that go into producing the event. When you have a stacked card, you have have to conservatively distribute the funds to the fighters because theres more than just 1-2 headliners. Not to mention that boxers are no being overpaid because of clueless execs at Showtime and HBO and greedy, shady managers getting these fighters figures they don't deserve because they can't generate numbers.
But you want more proof, have you gone to the magazine section at a convenience store? How bout a Wal-mart? How many magazines do you see with a boxer on them? How many do you see with an MMA fighter?
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Really? Another boxing is dying thread? Seriously?
Just do something more original like a thread about Manny on peds or Floyd being a cowardly homo. Boxing dying is sooo 1928.
Of course it is. The interests is slowly decreasing. MMA is replacing boxing as the number one combat sport in America. Media outlets cover MMA more than they do boxing. The proof is in the numbers. There was only ONE major PPV this year. Thats it. ONE.
The proof is in the numbers. Boxers make way more money and their PPVs do way more buys than MMA. I like both sports but let's not pretend that MMA comes anywhere close the amount of money boxing brings in.
Boxing has been around for centuries and it's not going anywhere.
Of course it is. The interests is slowly decreasing. MMA is replacing boxing as the number one combat sport in America. Media outlets cover MMA more than they do boxing. The proof is in the numbers. There was only ONE major PPV this year. Thats it. ONE.