Why would Victor Conte's fighters Donaire and Ward talk about their willingness to take OST after their fights? Nobody haven't said anything about their PED usage, nobody pushed them. It looks like they are trying to convince people that they are clean, when nobody accused them.
Well i have heard them being accused for one thing, Ward anyways and when the fukk did doing the right thing and excepting tests become a bad thing!? ALL world ranked fighters should have to take tests
Why would Victor Conte's fighters Donaire and Ward talk about their willingness to take OST after their fights? Nobody haven't said anything about their PED usage, nobody pushed them. It looks like they are trying to convince people that they are clean, when nobody accused them.
Probably because conte said publicly that ost is a piece of cake to cheat on since he helped design the tests himself
taking ost's- kill any allegations.
not willing to take osts-cause speculation
saying you'll take them and actually doing it are two different things, talk is cheap.
Was Ward tested pre-Abraham? nope. If he's so keen, and is associated with Conte, then why not?
In the absence of actual tests all it amounts to is PR. Marion Jones used to say the same things.
That is not to say I think Ward is guilty, I'm just pointing out the pointlessness of saying these things. Actions speak louder than words.
Get real, until theres a INDEPENDANT commision that has no ties to anyone does their own tests and DOESNT TELL people what they are testing for then it can be fair. Even Olympic tests can be cheated, do you even know how they detect them? By knowing the strains, if you dont know the strain it could come back negative everytime. This dude knows what they are testing for, its like giving someone the answers to tommorows test.
You really buying this "Hes a changed man?" Hes a proven fraudster. The only thing he made his money on was doping Athletes so they can play undetected. And hes still doing it now. You watch too much CSI and Crime Shows if you think this is something elaborate and they have satellites tracking him and what not.
You must have a low IQ or voted for bush.
I can spell, thank God. Define "INDEPENDANT" commission.
Yeah, they left those scientists alone to roam free and just put Conte in jail. And those scientists are back working for him. Better yet, he's got new ones that he uses in his underground base since they're watching him. Here's a newsflash for you - whether it's legal or not, they know what he's giving Nonito Donaire or anyone else.
Get real, until theres a INDEPENDANT commision that has no ties to anyone does their own tests and DOESNT TELL people what they are testing for then it can be fair. Even Olympic tests can be cheated, do you even know how they detect them? By knowing the strains, if you dont know the strain it could come back negative everytime. This dude knows what they are testing for, its like giving someone the answers to tommorows test.
You really buying this "Hes a changed man?" Hes a proven fraudster. The only thing he made his money on was doping Athletes so they can play undetected. And hes still doing it now. You watch too much CSI and Crime Shows if you think this is something elaborate and they have satellites tracking him and what not.
You must have a low IQ or voted for bush.
What world do you live in? The Boxing and Sporting game is a billion dollar business. Everyone gets a piece of the pie buddy. This guy had PHD Scientists working for him to make undetectable strains, he probably said how to detect them to save his own ass. You think he doesnt have more? You think they pay him just cuz hes a nice guy? No, these athletes pay him to make them "stronger" and have less time between injuries. The Boxers/Athletes dont know what drugs they are taking, he is giving them cocktails, could be telling them its B-12.
"Disclose" Everything. lol, what world you live in? Everyone in this world corrupt, the government is the biggest mafia on earth along with religion.
Yeah, they left those scientists alone to roam free and just put Conte in jail. And those scientists are back working for him. Better yet, he's got new ones that he uses in his underground base since they're watching him. Here's a newsflash for you - whether it's legal or not, they know what he's giving Nonito Donaire or anyone else.
OST's starting at camp are easy to avoid
conte has already stated himself that athletes dope up during their off season and come back squeeky clean for the games
So then the NSAC testing must be all crap and a waste of time?
What do you mean how are they going to monitor him? You think they just let him open the factory again and turned a blind eye? Are you ok, man? You do realize he went to jail, right? In exchange for allowing him to work again (since he did work legally for 10 years prior to the BALCO scandal), he has to disclose everything and is also helping them. But please, continue with your theory.
What world do you live in? The Boxing and Sporting game is a billion dollar business. Everyone gets a piece of the pie buddy. This guy had PHD Scientists working for him to make undetectable strains, he probably said how to detect them to save his own ass. You think he doesnt have more? You think they pay him just cuz hes a nice guy? No, these athletes pay him to make them "stronger" and have less time between injuries. The Boxers/Athletes dont know what drugs they are taking, he is giving them cocktails, could be telling them its B-12.
"Disclose" Everything. lol, what world you live in? Everyone in this world corrupt, the government is the biggest mafia on earth along with religion.
How are they gonna monitor him? You truly believe Conte suddenly became honest guy. I dunno what kind does he do exactly with the athletes, but gotta be something very important since I've seen Donaire thanking him along his trainer and manager.
What do you mean how are they going to monitor him? You think they just let him open the factory again and turned a blind eye? Are you ok, man? You do realize he went to jail, right? In exchange for allowing him to work again (since he did work legally for 10 years prior to the BALCO scandal), he has to disclose everything and is also helping them. But please, continue with your theory.
What has he learned about WADA regulations that he didn't know already and used? If anything, it's the reverse. Yeah, I just got put in jail so I'm gonna work with them and try to do it again with them monitoring everything I do.
How are they gonna monitor him? You truly believe Conte suddenly became honest guy. I dunno what kind does he do exactly with the athletes, but gotta be something very important since I've seen Donaire thanking him along his trainer and manager.
Conte working with WADA doesn't mean that he is "clean" guy. He already got his hands dirty and wont hesitate to do it again. Now he knows WADA regulations much better and sure he is now more experienced for "not to be caught".
What has he learned about WADA regulations that he didn't know already and used? If anything, it's the reverse. Yeah, I just got put in jail so I'm gonna work with them and try to do it again with them monitoring everything I do.
Conte works with WADA. That'll clear that up. maybe you'll even delete this thread but I doubt it.
Conte working with WADA doesn't mean that he is "clean" guy. He already got his hands dirty and wont hesitate to do it again. Now he knows WADA regulations much better and sure he is now more experienced for "not to be caught".
Hes arrogant because he thinks he can cheat the system, kind of like "Try ME!"
Because he knows what they test for, and as a person who owned a million dollar company he had PHD Scientists working for him to create undetectable strains. Why do you think he is buddy buddy with all the Athletes? Why do you think he is on their payroll? Same reason people pay Al Haymen to be his "Advisor". Because he bribes HBO people to put his fighers in.
Its a modern day Mafia.
OST's starting at camp are easy to avoid
conte has already stated himself that athletes dope up during their off season and come back squeeky clean for the games
Why would Victor Conte's fighters Donaire and Ward talk about their willingness to take OST after their fights? Nobody haven't said anything about their PED usage, nobody pushed them. It looks like they are trying to convince people that they are clean, when nobody accused them.
Conte works with WADA. That'll clear that up. maybe you'll even delete this thread but I doubt it.
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