Pav vs AA

Kelly Pavlik wins this fight by KO. If they fight ten times, Kelly knocks him out ten times. Pavlik has never had trouble with brawlers or punchers (Miranda) - he only struggles against boxers (Hopkins) and guys with super hand speed and reflexes (Martinez). He basically walked Miranda down, and Edison Miranda is a harder puncher than Arthur Abraham. It would be an exciting fight, for sure, since both guys are brave, devastating punchers - but Pavlik takes it.

If Pavlik is all the way back I give him a good chance. But maybe not in Germany.

pavlik is a horrid style for abraham at anywhere near his best he throws a lot with both hands from far away and he's got a very good chin pavlik via landslide decision, maybe knockout if abraham opened up i think AA is done. he looks gunshy and even more limited than in the past. if he's got anything left in the tank these two would put on a good show

It'd be bad ass to have a card consisting of Pavlik-AA, Rios-Gamboa, and Cloud-Andrade.

Why has this fight not happen yet??

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Pavlik actually possessing a jab would have me favouring him.

Pavlik has a very good jab, a considerable height advantage, a solid chin, and good power in both hands. I think that combination would give him the odds against Abraham.

Pavlik's boxing ability is a little underrated here. He can jab, and he can fight outside, and you know he would just try to do what the Super Sixers have done to Abraham. I think he would do it. If they had fought back when both were middleweights, Pavlik probably would have been the first to show us the blueprint to beat Abraham. At MW I would have pick Pav over AA,but Pav looks like he has lost his confidence and that won't be good against AA..Not to mention Pav don't have the legs to pull off what the SS fighters did imo..

I think that Abraham and Pavlik are very similar in that respect. Neither are over-endowed with technical acumen. Both guys rely on their power to supplement their styles. Both guys will struggle to make an impact against the top guys at 168. They are a match made in heaven, this is a puncher's dream fight, and a crossroads fight for both guys. It quite simply has to happen. I agree this fight is a must happen at this point of both fighters career..I think it will still have loads of interest as well,hope it happens..

Pavlik's boxing ability is a little underrated here. He can jab, and he can fight outside, and you know he would just try to do what the Super Sixers have done to Abraham. I think he would do it. If they had fought back when both were middleweights, Pavlik probably would have been the first to show us the blueprint to beat Abraham.

Pavlik by easy UD over the much smaller, and shorter Arthur "I'm the living heavybag" Abraham Pav might be taller then AA,but at 168lb I don't know if he would be stronger..I also don't know if Pav would bring his power up with him,everytime Pav has fought above 160lb he never looked great..It's not his best weight imo,you mix that with the fact it looks like he has lost what lil skills he did have..I say AA KO's him in an exciting fight..

I am giving the edge to AA but someone is gonna GTFKO.

Pavlik by easy UD over the much smaller, and shorter Arthur "I'm the living heavybag" Abraham

Kelly won't fight Abraham that way he'll stay on the outside an jab exactly like Froch and Ward Pav does not have the skills of either fighter..And is very flat footed to boot..

Alcoholics Anonymous vs Kelly Pavlik? :trink26:

this one still has FOTY all over it it would be a question of how hungry they are the styles are still there kelly's going to have an easier time landing the jab and right hand on a guy with no headmovement and footwork and abraham's not going to have to track kelly down, he's going to be there fighting Kelly won't fight Abraham that way he'll stay on the outside an jab exactly like Froch and Ward

this one still has FOTY all over it it would be a question of how hungry they are the styles are still there kelly's going to have an easier time landing the jab and right hand on a guy with no headmovement and footwork and abraham's not going to have to track kelly down, he's going to be there fighting abraham and kelly and abraham and williams are tremendous fights i know williams is planning a return to WW or likely jr MW but i'd still pick him to beat abraham up if he can figure out a way to tie him up when he actually decides to punch and not get knocked into next week

Pavlik would stay on the outside and jab away just like Ward and Froch

That fight is harder to pick than a broken nose. I went with Pav, only because I assumed that the fight would take place at 168. If at 160, then I would slightly favor Abraham. Abraham did well tonight imho, well, better than I thought he would anyways. He managed to hang with Ward and keep him honest for the most part, showing a good jab and some decent skills. This fight could come down to who lands the first good punch and follows up. You could be right but Pav's come forward style might be his undoing in this fight..That and the fact he looked like trash in his last fight and even looked a bit hurt at times..