The main problem when it comes to this Floyd vs. Manny debacle

it doesnt take a genius to see the obvious. its common sense. round up what floyds been doin.. its something a lil immature boy would do. he keeps talking smack, about how beatable manny is; the dudes an internet warrior; look at his website, twiiter and fb. instead of showin up at this years biggest boxing event and supporting it, he watches lady gaga. he wants nowhere close to manny. and mannys response to this? let the commission do their job and let the fighters do theirs. he can fight anyone, anywhere. it doesnt matter who he is as long as the moneys right. now thats a professional doing his job. similar to a hired hitman. yes. biases are normal. that's why we have brains to see the difference and what is common sense and what is not. some people just prefer to dickride all the way and forget that they have brains. we all know, for example, that peds are overrated. you wouldn't know barry bonds was on peds or not because there's hardly any difference in the period where he was supposed to be on them and out of them. this is just one example. yet you see people constantly use it to support their argument.

I agree about Byrd, I thought he was a very skilled fighter. *Denzel voice* my man. :beerchug:

vivek wallace unbiased? :lol1: it's like saying ronnie nathanielsz is not a pactard :D actually what I said was this: In fact there's only TWO writers that I can think of off the top of my head that at least tries to play it straight, even if they admit they have their own opinions on who's wrong and who's right, and that's Vivek Wallace and Steven "Breadman" Edwards. I didn't say they were not biased. I said they at least try to play it straight and give you reasons for why they feel the way they do. Not just sit back and give cliched answers. They give you their opinion and then they back it up for why they feel that way.

it doesnt take a genius to see the obvious. its common sense. round up what floyds been doin.. its something a lil immature boy would do. he keeps talking smack, about how beatable manny is; the dudes an internet warrior; look at his website, twiiter and fb. instead of showin up at this years biggest boxing event and supporting it, he watches lady gaga. he wants nowhere close to manny. and mannys response to this? let the commission do their job and let the fighters do theirs. he can fight anyone, anywhere. it doesnt matter who he is as long as the moneys right. now thats a professional doing his job. similar to a hired hitman. he isn't going to do that. its an ego thing and that fight was on showtime.

I agree about Byrd, I thought he was a very skilled fighter.

Something I've noticed, and it's not exactly a secret, is that there's virtually NO websites out there that do not have their own built in biases towards specific fighters. It's very difficult to remain impartial and non-biased, because we're all human. I've always been partial to Chris Byrd, and no matter what anyone tells me or tries to say, I'll always feel he was massively underrated and underappreciated, considering what he accomplished. I can't think of a single website that does not have biased "journalism". This site has it, Boxing Talk has it, Fight hype has it, doghouse, ESB, etc, etc, etc. Some are pro Floyd, some are Pro Manny. Some might try to maintain a balance of both by employing writers that are fans of each one, but the bottom line is that there's really nowhere to go that isn't tipped in one or the other's favor. And as a result, when there is confusing information out there, there's really nowhere that you can go to just get the straight dope as far as what's going on. I mean, Boxing Talk is notorious for their anti-Floyd stance ever since Floyd and Greg had a falling out. Fight Hype has some embarrasingly slobbering "interviews" with Floyd and James Toney on there, where it's not even hiding their biases. Doghouse has some of the most **** writing I've ever seen, along with a slew of misleading headlines designed to elicit clicks. Then there's some dude named "Fantana" that I'm not even going to get started on on ESB. In fact there's only TWO writers that I can think of off the top of my head that at least tries to play it straight, even if they admit they have their own opinions on who's wrong and who's right, and that's Vivek Wallace and Steven "Breadman" Edwards. And because of all that, we end up having these situations where everyone is throwing out stuff that's been debunked over and over, we have stuff coming out from YEARS ago and people thinking it's current in the negotiations, and just a relative confusion among everyone. It'd be nice if we had a specific place to go that was sort of a impartial information hub of everything going on. Nothing that's spin from Arum and nothing that's spin from Floyd or Golden Boy. Just the FACTS. Perhaps wishful thinking, but then maybe we wouldn't have this situation now where I look at the main page of this section and I can't figure out what the hell is going on. lol. :thinking: An excellent read. But these websites prey on that type of journalism. Its like cable news. You play to your audience. People don't want to hear the truth, they want to hear their convictions and biases confirmed. Its just the way things are. When you are in the middle, it only means that you haven't yet picked a side and you are seen as a prospect!

floyd is like lex luthor (the kevin fckin spacey version not the f4ggotass michael rosenbaum one) to pac's superman. everything was going fine for him, fighting part time, earning a few million here and there, tv appearances, wwe performances... then pac came, upstaged him and stole all the attention while playing the innocent, likeable hero. floyd basically became self destructive and increasingly paranoid and jealous after that he kept doing stuffs harming not only himself but others near him as well.

yeah your 100% right and you know its really hurting him because manny is the first thing he brings up in every interview even when hes not asked

i say 99% of sites are with amnnyy on this now they all believe floyds a coward it doesnt take a genius to see the obvious. its common sense. round up what floyds been doin.. its something a lil immature boy would do. he keeps talking smack, about how beatable manny is; the dudes an internet warrior; look at his website, twiiter and fb. instead of showin up at this years biggest boxing event and supporting it, he watches lady gaga. he wants nowhere close to manny. and mannys response to this? let the commission do their job and let the fighters do theirs. he can fight anyone, anywhere. it doesnt matter who he is as long as the moneys right. now thats a professional doing his job. similar to a hired hitman.

vivek wallace unbiased? :lol1: it's like saying ronnie nathanielsz is not a pactard :D

Yes, people have biases that's normal. But this didn't come from a writer, it was quoted word for word, it's from the same interviewer on the videos as well. For a man to say take the tests and imply that his opponent should cheat pretty much sums up this whole debacle. that was kinda weird to me. He's getting his ass sued for defamation of character, and he just can't help himself. he THINKS he's being clever and subtle as if there's going to be a lot of people who don't understand what he's referring to. Now that he's got his new public relations firm in FH, he's going to end up saying some **** that's going to hurt him even more, now that he has a friendly outlet that's just going to let him say whatever and not challenge him.

i say 99% of sites are with amnnyy on this now they all believe floyds a coward

Yes, people have biases that's normal. But this didn't come from a writer, it was quoted word for word, it's from the same interviewer on the videos as well. For a man to say take the tests and imply that his opponent should cheat pretty much sums up this whole debacle. "Not saying that I wish nothing bad on Shane because I want Shane to win. Everybody says, 'Well, if Shane wins, what about your money?' I don't worry about that. I got things outside the ring that I'm generating major income from...If I was Shane, you know what I would do? I would go back to the old Shane, so he can be on an even playing field. Just say **** it." - Floyd Mayweather Jr. http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content9859.html

I love reading Breadman's material.....straight from the gut, no b.s. But more importantly, I dig his passion and knowledge of the sport. He tarins guys in Philly and he knows his history. Definitely one of my favorites

Only one thing left to follow at this point. Will Manny put his "take the test in the ring on fight night" demeanor in writing. I wanna see some ink dried on a contract already. Pass that sht to Floyd with that all signed up, and then we'll see if somebody ducks the fight. Until that point, I'm staying away from the subject - it's just grandstanding by those two until then.

Read like two lines then I stopped. :lol1: cheers

Read like two lines then I stopped.