One of the reasons why boxing is down.

Is it so called fans spend 90% of their time discrediting boxers left and right. seriously... some times I think flomos are paid by mayweather to come on bscene and talk sh!t aboout pac.

Is it so called fans spend 90% of their time discrediting boxers left and right. Either they are highly biased about their favorite fighter and feel they could do no wrong then they discredit and tear down every other fighter. They all part of the same sport and make each other period. all fighters need eachother whether they fight or not win or lose. making negative threads trolling isnt doing my fav sport any good its only keeping negative news circulating and making the sport look bad. Putting down fighters who train hard and do what they do to take care of their families. 99% of this site has never boxed managed train coached competed at a top level pro or amateur yet there are so many experts that seem to know what to do when to do it how to do it and why. I bust my ass in the gym and compete and know how hard it is to fight period let alone a top level. and to come here and see a bunch of lazy ass nerd wanna be bert sugars putting down almost every boxer instead of praising the sport being happy about the fights thats happening instead of crying about fantasy fights is sad. And you wonder why most fighters go for the money and not the fan favorite fights. Because they can see you guys really dont give a ****. guys like iran barkley homeless and others punch drunk yal dont care. so why not go for the money go for the names? yall critisize fighters who fight the best thats available to them like vic darchinyan sergio martinez for example. yall critisize guys who been fighting since 7 8 years old always in big fights doing what they do like floyd oscar mosley. yall critisize guys who also been fighting for msot their lives putting on big fights bringing the fight to fans all over the world like manny wlad hatton. its ok to not be a fan of a fighter and fan of another fighter. but whats the point trying to tear a fighter down and wanting to prove yourself right to someones fan? they are a fan o a fighter you re a fan of another leave it at that. when they fight may the best man win. WHY IS THERE NO RESPECT FOR THE FIGHTERS AND THE SPORT. WHY DO YALL WASTE YOUR TIME IF YOU DONT RESPECT THE FIGHTERS AND THE SPORT? i mean i dont go on nfl boards dissing fat athletes or even talk about boxers i dont like. I dont comment on UFC boards dissing guys who i feel have no skills or whatever. I respect everyone who made it and do whatever they do to survive. im 100% sure this will fall on deaf hears because haters are going to be haters but id love to see you guys who critisize so much go out there lace the gloves up and do better. time for my run i will talk to you guys later. peace and BOXING IS LIFE Its absolutely crazy. I was watching this forum on sunday, and 99% of the threads were by Mayweather fans ****ting on Manny's win. Some of the posters made about 20 threads each, some more, and all saying exactly the same damn thing! I just dont get it, I just love boxing and whilst I have fighters I prefer over others, I cant see myself getting that emotionally involved. Life is too damn short!

ok so manny and floyd doing big in america represents how every other boxer is doing in america? so andre ward vs froch would sell out a stadium in america? bradley vs devon 2 undefeated champions couldnt sell 10,000 tickets. so you tell me if its down or not. what manny and floyd does dont rep the whole sport they are superstars. like oscar and trinidad in their prime. Boxing is a sport of names. The big names, keep the gates open. The problem with the guys you named, don't put on a show. They reach a certain level to where they start getting put on magazines and get interviews, and they think they can start commanding top dollar, less than stellar opposition, and fight twice a year. Nobody knows who Bradley and Alexander are because they don't fight enough to build up a fan base. Nobody is saying they have to fight a top ten guy each and every time out, but give the public a chance to see you even if it is against a no hoper. It has nothing to do with being undefeated, but everything to do with being missing for 363 days of the year. Do some stay busy fights and keep the potential for injury down, but keep your name out there. Especially with the low power that they have. Nobody wants to see that ****. Its no wonder those types of guys can't even sell out their home towns. Because nobody knows who they are. Look at someone like Julio Cesar Chavez. Dude was fighting up to 5 times a year in the 80s. He was putting in work getting his name out there. He didn't have the luxury of a Ray Leonard to have an Olympic pedigree. He built his name by staying busy. Bradley, had the same pace, until he beat Witter. Then, he thought he was accomplished enough to have 6 fights since 2008. That is the problem. Since 2009 began, Alexander has been fighting twice a year when he was doing for the most part, 4 fights a year up to that point. Fight often, get recognized and build a fan base. These guys get an HBO date, and think they're stars who can fight once or twice a year.

yeah more disrespect towards the fighters. they wonder why fighters dont want to lose. because when a guy lose they are done washed up shot bums they were overhyped never was anything special in first place lol. **** a guy gets dazed or knocked down oh he has no chin he cant take a punch. its crazy how they are "so much fans of the sport" yet they are so disrespectful towards it and its fighters. Yeah man defnitely. A lot of these "fans" are hurting the sport. The best dont fight the best, a big part of it is because they are labelled as washed up bums if they lose. Something has to change.

You make some very good points. Another thing I feel that is hurting the sport is after 1 loss or a poor showing, "fans" say how a fighter is exposed or overrate, shot, etc. Its ridiculous and not true at all. Look at some of the old time fighters such as Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore. They had wars and were stopped as well but were certainly not shot afterwards and were still able to fight with the elite. Losses can happen, KO losses as well, it doesn't mean a fighter is finished (although telling them that they are will certainly not help). yeah more disrespect towards the fighters. they wonder why fighters dont want to lose. because when a guy lose they are done washed up shot bums they were overhyped never was anything special in first place lol. **** a guy gets dazed or knocked down oh he has no chin he cant take a punch. its crazy how they are "so much fans of the sport" yet they are so disrespectful towards it and its fighters.

Yea, its so down, that its selling more than ever. Its so down, that fights are being hosted in stadiums again. ok so manny and floyd doing big in america represents how every other boxer is doing in america? so andre ward vs froch would sell out a stadium in america? bradley vs devon 2 undefeated champions couldnt sell 10,000 tickets. so you tell me if its down or not. what manny and floyd does dont rep the whole sport they are superstars. like oscar and trinidad in their prime.

Is it so called fans spend 90% of their time discrediting boxers left and right. Either they are highly biased about their favorite fighter and feel they could do no wrong then they discredit and tear down every other fighter. They all part of the same sport and make each other period. all fighters need eachother whether they fight or not win or lose. making negative threads trolling isnt doing my fav sport any good its only keeping negative news circulating and making the sport look bad. Putting down fighters who train hard and do what they do to take care of their families. 99% of this site has never boxed managed train coached competed at a top level pro or amateur yet there are so many experts that seem to know what to do when to do it how to do it and why. I bust my ass in the gym and compete and know how hard it is to fight period let alone a top level. and to come here and see a bunch of lazy ass nerd wanna be bert sugars putting down almost every boxer instead of praising the sport being happy about the fights thats happening instead of crying about fantasy fights is sad. And you wonder why most fighters go for the money and not the fan favorite fights. Because they can see you guys really dont give a ****. guys like iran barkley homeless and others punch drunk yal dont care. so why not go for the money go for the names? yall critisize fighters who fight the best thats available to them like vic darchinyan sergio martinez for example. yall critisize guys who been fighting since 7 8 years old always in big fights doing what they do like floyd oscar mosley. yall critisize guys who also been fighting for msot their lives putting on big fights bringing the fight to fans all over the world like manny wlad hatton. its ok to not be a fan of a fighter and fan of another fighter. but whats the point trying to tear a fighter down and wanting to prove yourself right to someones fan? they are a fan o a fighter you re a fan of another leave it at that. when they fight may the best man win. WHY IS THERE NO RESPECT FOR THE FIGHTERS AND THE SPORT. WHY DO YALL WASTE YOUR TIME IF YOU DONT RESPECT THE FIGHTERS AND THE SPORT? i mean i dont go on nfl boards dissing fat athletes or even talk about boxers i dont like. I dont comment on UFC boards dissing guys who i feel have no skills or whatever. I respect everyone who made it and do whatever they do to survive. im 100% sure this will fall on deaf hears because haters are going to be haters but id love to see you guys who critisize so much go out there lace the gloves up and do better. time for my run i will talk to you guys later. peace and BOXING IS LIFE You make some very good points. Another thing I feel that is hurting the sport is after 1 loss or a poor showing, "fans" say how a fighter is exposed or overrate, shot, etc. Its ridiculous and not true at all. Look at some of the old time fighters such as Jersey Joe Walcott and Archie Moore. They had wars and were stopped as well but were certainly not shot afterwards and were still able to fight with the elite. Losses can happen, KO losses as well, it doesn't mean a fighter is finished (although telling them that they are will certainly not help).

As for the sport dying, there will always be fans. Boxing has been associated with poor, and as more people have slightly better lives in western countries, less people box and obviously less fans. In every country there are only 2 or 3 sports that get most of sports fans. Boxing isn;t dying because of our disrespect, even it in some ways flourishes because we here are on a boxin site and pay for fights, abut sometimes we get streams. Still, we are here. It is the people who don't talk boxing that kill it. noone ever said the sport was dying. it will never die.

If a MMA fan asked a floyd fan, why should i like boxing and tune into boxing? The gentlemanly thing to do would be boxing is wonderful, look at Pac for instance a great fighter and ambassador for the sport. But that would never happen would it? The sad thing is they would find it hard to use Floyd as a reason to love boxing. He dont fight. why would a floyd fan only use floyd as an example? unless the only person they follow and watch is floyd. your example makes no sense. and this post isnt about floyd or manny its about boxing and every boxer who lace up the gloves. because someone is a fan of floyd or manny doesnt mean they cant be fans of other boxers and moreso fans of the sport

I like how many people are commenting on this thread after only reading the title. :lol1: I agree with TS that it's sad that fighters at this level get put down so much. However that is human nature it seems. You'd think in a rough sport like boxing there'd be less b!tches. :grumble:

I think Top Rank is killing the Sport by handpicking opponents. No offense to Fighters, but seriously did u guys thought Mosley had a chance with Pacquiao?. I think we need more thrilling matches, like Barrera-Morales, Morales-Pacquiao, Marquez-Pacquiao. Seriously thats the reason why the moved to Showtime, nobody would give a dime to watch Mosley running in circles.

-Too many belts. -Greedy promoters. -Corruption -Stupid matchmaking(Alvarez vs Hatton for the Title , lol) -And yes , MMA is taking over boxing.

never said its dying i said its down. Yea, its so down, that its selling more than ever. Its so down, that fights are being hosted in stadiums again.

I am not disrespecting Martinez. I actually think he is good, but not that good. In terms of skills, he is no where near Manny and Floyd. His name is onlt mentioned because he is bigger than them and has a chance to beat them. If they were all at 147, he wouldn't beat William's IMO. He has stamina issues which is why he was nto given the decision VS William's. I am just sick of people thinking Martinez is all that. I agree that he doesn't have many guys to face, but he still boxed for years and 154 had names like Forrest. He has been boxing since 1997. never said you was. this thread was directed at the general public who disrespect boxers managers trainers promoters and the sport.against those who feel they are experts yet the only thing they know of this sport is form watching tv and reading articles online. dont be so conceited to think it was soley about you.

Is it so called fans spend 90% of their time discrediting boxers left and right. Either they are highly biased about their favorite fighter and feel they could do no wrong then they discredit and tear down every other fighter. They all part of the same sport and make each other period. all fighters need eachother whether they fight or not win or lose. making negative threads trolling isnt doing my fav sport any good its only keeping negative news circulating and making the sport look bad. Putting down fighters who train hard and do what they do to take care of their families. 99% of this site has never boxed managed train coached competed at a top level pro or amateur yet there are so many experts that seem to know what to do when to do it how to do it and why. I bust my ass in the gym and compete and know how hard it is to fight period let alone a top level. and to come here and see a bunch of lazy ass nerd wanna be bert sugars putting down almost every boxer instead of praising the sport being happy about the fights thats happening instead of crying about fantasy fights is sad. And you wonder why most fighters go for the money and not the fan favorite fights. Because they can see you guys really dont give a ****. guys like iran barkley homeless and others punch drunk yal dont care. so why not go for the money go for the names? yall critisize fighters who fight the best thats available to them like vic darchinyan sergio martinez for example. yall critisize guys who been fighting since 7 8 years old always in big fights doing what they do like floyd oscar mosley. yall critisize guys who also been fighting for msot their lives putting on big fights bringing the fight to fans all over the world like manny wlad hatton. its ok to not be a fan of a fighter and fan of another fighter. but whats the point trying to tear a fighter down and wanting to prove yourself right to someones fan? they are a fan o a fighter you re a fan of another leave it at that. when they fight may the best man win. WHY IS THERE NO RESPECT FOR THE FIGHTERS AND THE SPORT. WHY DO YALL WASTE YOUR TIME IF YOU DONT RESPECT THE FIGHTERS AND THE SPORT? i mean i dont go on nfl boards dissing fat athletes or even talk about boxers i dont like. I dont comment on UFC boards dissing guys who i feel have no skills or whatever. I respect everyone who made it and do whatever they do to survive. im 100% sure this will fall on deaf hears because haters are going to be haters but id love to see you guys who critisize so much go out there lace the gloves up and do better. time for my run i will talk to you guys later. peace and BOXING IS LIFE If a MMA fan asked a floyd fan, why should i like boxing and tune into boxing? The gentlemanly thing to do would be boxing is wonderful, look at Pac for instance a great fighter and ambassador for the sport. But that would never happen would it? The sad thing is they would find it hard to use Floyd as a reason to love boxing. He dont fight.

never said its dying i said its down.

Its been said since the 50s, "boxing is dying". 60 years later, its still here.

To some, overrating fighters is bad for the sport. I.E. Martinez is overrated as P4P number 1? Donaire is just as good P4P. thats your opinion and i respect that. but p4p list is merely someone or group of others opinion as well and dont really mean much except to those who it mean something too. if you have donaire higher than martinez thats great. if not also great. but my point is the disrespect for these boxers and their careers is disgusting from so called fans