Pacquiao/Mayweather's last 5 fights

Considering he fought no of them over that time period that point really means nothing. He fought Shane and Margarito either in 2011 or almost 2011. Alot can happen in 3 years.. A ranking in 2007-2008 really means almost nothing if your not fighting them in those years. That being said the Hatton and Cotto wins were very impressive and excellent wins. The others? Not so much. Pacquiao was a SFW in that timeframe. Couldn't you say the same exact same thing about Mayweather though, and he was actually a WW.

Yeah because he's making it all up right? Wrong. isn't hatton a 140 lineal champ at the weight? isn't margarito a former multi-division champion? didn't marquez had to go two weightclass to fight floyd? wasn't shane coming off a long lay off when he faced floyd? why weren't these facts mentioned? its easy to hype or discredit a win depending on your agenda. the ts wasn't being subjective in comparing their opponents.

Pretty impressive for a lightweight, that list just amazes me. Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley - that's the who's who of welterweights in 2007-2008. You're not doing a good job if that's all you can come up with. Considering he fought none of them over that time period, that point really means nothing. He fought Shane and Margarito either in 2011 or almost 2011. Alot can happen in 3 years.. A ranking in 2007-2008 really means almost nothing if your not fighting them in those years. That being said the Hatton and Cotto wins were very impressive and excellent wins. The others? Not so much.

Let's break down their last 5 fights to show just how much Pacquiao is the product of great match making and to show that Floyd has actually been fighting better opposition and Pac is actually the one cherry picking. Only people who sip the Pacquiao kool aid are people who don't know boxing and/or hate Floyd. He's a great fighter (first ballot hall of famer, ATG, legend) but the media and Top Rank are fooling people with the Manny Pacquiao deception. He hasn't been in a real fight since Marquez II, and we all know how that went for him. Floyd has been inactive these past years, but when he's in the ring he's gunning for the top guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr 1. Shane Mosley - ranked p4p # 3 at the time, welter weight champion, and coming off a huge TKO victory against Margarito 2. Juan Manuel Marquez - ranked p4p # 2 at the time, coming off great victories, and arguably beat Pacquiao twice (albeit at BS catchweight, but Pacquiao is considering the same catchweight) 3. Ricky Hatton - ranked p4p # 5, 140 king, undefeated 4. Oscar De La Hoya - ranked top ten p4p, cash cow, coming off a great victory against Mayorga and the fight took place at a healthy weight for DLH, 154 champ (edited by code red) 5. Carlos Baldomir - had all the welter weight belts, coming off a huge upset against Zab Judah Manny Pacquiao 1. Shane Mosley - hadn't won a fight in over 2 years, not ranked p4p, no belt, 39 years old (Floyd leftover) 2. Antonio Margarito - not ranked p4p, beat a journey man and had been KO'd by Mosley, no belt (fight took place at a catchweight at 150 for a 154 vacant belt), coming off suspension 3. Joshua Clottey - lost to all his big fights he fought, no belt, not ranked p4p 4. Miguel Cotto - had just beaten a bum, before that had been destroyed by Margarito, not ranked p4p (fight took place at a BS catchweight of 145 to drain Cotto) 5. Ricky Hatton - not ranked p4p, had a few victories but 2 fights prior had been KO'd (Floyd leftover) Pretty impressive for a lightweight, that list just amazes me. Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley - that's the who's who of welterweights in 2007-2008. You're not doing a good job if that's all you can come up with.

not a flomo or pactard, but atleast floyd fought em when they were coming off wins. pac fought the worse versions of the same fighters just be real about it you wont be labled flomo or pactard. The problem I've always had with this logic is you're inevitably going to fight the same guys in your division win or lose if you're an active fighter. Nobody complained to Hagler when he fought Hearns after losing to Leonard, or Duran after losing to Leonard in the "No Mas" fight. Many of the Mayweather fans will make it convenient to mention Marquez and Mosley were #2 P4P or #1 Welterweight, but fail to mention the flipside of the coin where Marquez was climbing up 2 weight division after beating "JUAN DIAZ".........Juan...Diaz. Mosley had a big win over Margarito, but didn't fight Floyd for another 14 months, and Mosley by then had already lost to Cotto a couple yrs prior and had a very subpar fight against Mayorga. But of course, THESE things are ignored, but the opinionated P4P list is what's heralded over Pacquiao's wins. As I stated in a previous thread, we can take every current fighter right now and dissect their resume and make a feast of leftovers, but most people who understand how Boxing works and has worked for over 60-70 yrs knows you're inevitably going to fight the same guys. It's simply a cop out to discredit Pacquiao's accomplishments in relation to Mayweather. Both dudes have fought ham and eggers and past prime guys, one is simply continuing to fight while the other remains dormant.

Let's break down their last 5 fights to show just how much Pacquiao is the product of great match making and to show that Floyd has actually been fighting better opposition and Pac is actually the one cherry picking. Only people who sip the Pacquiao kool aid are people who don't know boxing and/or hate Floyd. He's a great fighter (first ballot hall of famer, ATG, legend) but the media and Top Rank are fooling people with the Manny Pacquiao deception. He hasn't been in a real fight since Marquez II, and we all know how that went for him. Floyd has been inactive these past years, but when he's in the ring he's gunning for the top guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr 1. Shane Mosley - ranked p4p # 3 at the time, welter weight champion, and coming off a huge TKO victory against Margarito 2. Juan Manuel Marquez - ranked p4p # 2 at the time, coming off great victories, and arguably beat Pacquiao twice (albeit at BS catchweight, but Pacquiao is considering the same catchweight) 3. Ricky Hatton - ranked p4p # 5, 140 king, undefeated 4. Oscar De La Hoya - ranked top ten p4p, cash cow, coming off a great victory against Mayorga and the fight took place at a healthy weight for DLH, 154 champ (edited by code red) 5. Carlos Baldomir - had all the welter weight belts, coming off a huge upset against Zab Judah Manny Pacquiao 1. Shane Mosley - hadn't won a fight in over 2 years, not ranked p4p, no belt, 39 years old (Floyd leftover) 2. Antonio Margarito - not ranked p4p, beat a journey man and had been KO'd by Mosley, no belt (fight took place at a catchweight at 150 for a 154 vacant belt), coming off suspension 3. Joshua Clottey - lost to all his big fights he fought, no belt, not ranked p4p 4. Miguel Cotto - had just beaten a bum, before that had been destroyed by Margarito, not ranked p4p (fight took place at a BS catchweight of 145 to drain Cotto) 5. Ricky Hatton - not ranked p4p, had a few victories but 2 fights prior had been KO'd (Floyd leftover) Some of your statistics are false. Hatton was not P4P #5 when Floyd fought him, he was P4P #8. Hatton was not unranked P4P when he fought Pacqiuaio, he was #10. Cotto was not unranked P4P when he fought Pacquaio, he was #8. Oscar was not Top 10 P4P when he fought Floyd. Quite obvious you have an agenda here.

Clottey is the best opponent he has faced out of the last five imho......sounds silly, but he actually beat Cotto, he would beat SSM at 147 and i think he would have beaten Margo in a rematch.....Manny's style is just terrible for him, that's why he got belted, but in terms of where these fighters were at it can be argued he is Manny's best win in his last five fights. I can see that, Clottey was a formidable opponent but I'm convinced Clottey either threw that fight or gave up mentally.

Mayweathers last five >>>>>>> Pacs last five, not even debatable great analysis.....now get Mayweather to sign the contract and fight.....and don't give me that "take the test bullsh!t"....if a man wants to fight they fight...no questions asked....especially if one man claims that the other man is one sided and that it would an easy fight...

Let's break down their last 5 fights to show just how much Pacquiao is the product of great match making and to show that Floyd has actually been fighting better opposition and Pac is actually the one cherry picking. Only people who sip the Pacquiao kool aid are people who don't know boxing and/or hate Floyd. He's a great fighter (first ballot hall of famer, ATG, legend) but the media and Top Rank are fooling people with the Manny Pacquiao deception. He hasn't been in a real fight since Marquez II, and we all know how that went for him. Floyd has been inactive these past years, but when he's in the ring he's gunning for the top guys. Floyd Mayweather Jr 1. Shane Mosley - ranked p4p # 3 at the time, welter weight champion, and coming off a huge TKO victory against Margarito 2. Juan Manuel Marquez - ranked p4p # 2 at the time, coming off great victories, and arguably beat Pacquiao twice (albeit at BS catchweight, but Pacquiao is considering the same catchweight) 3. Ricky Hatton - ranked p4p # 5, 140 king, undefeated 4. Oscar De La Hoya - ranked top ten p4p, cash cow, coming off a great victory against Mayorga and the fight took place at a healthy weight for DLH, 154 champ (edited by code red) 5. Carlos Baldomir - had all the welter weight belts, coming off a huge upset against Zab Judah Manny Pacquiao 1. Shane Mosley - hadn't won a fight in over 2 years, not ranked p4p, no belt, 39 years old (Floyd leftover) 2. Antonio Margarito - not ranked p4p, beat a journey man and had been KO'd by Mosley, no belt (fight took place at a catchweight at 150 for a 154 vacant belt), coming off suspension 3. Joshua Clottey - lost to all his big fights he fought, no belt, not ranked p4p 4. Miguel Cotto - had just beaten a bum, before that had been destroyed by Margarito, not ranked p4p (fight took place at a BS catchweight of 145 to drain Cotto) 5. Ricky Hatton - not ranked p4p, had a few victories but 2 fights prior had been KO'd (Floyd leftover) Clottey is the best opponent he has faced out of the last five imho......sounds silly, but he actually beat Cotto, he would beat SSM at 147 and i think he would have beaten Margo in a rematch.....Manny's style is just terrible for him, that's why he got belted, but in terms of where these fighters were at it can be argued he is Manny's best win in his last five fights.

Mayweathers last five >>>>>>> Pacs last five, not even debatable

I hope these 2 get in the ring, because I'm sick of these stupid threads. That stupid people make. Haters gonna Hate. "Neither a Pactard or a Flomo"...that's laughable

i like the way you discredit one guy's fights and totally hype the other. you are not biased at all Yeah because he's making it all up right? Wrong.

margarito looked like **** against garcia cotto got beat up by clottey and most people thought he lost de la hoya looked like **** against steve forbes at 150 and forbes is a 140 fighter Did they came from W's or not?? I answer what the guy said, whether they looked spectacular or not is not the subject!!!!

JMM was the 130 Champ (beat Juarez prior to face Pac) Hatton the lineal 140 champ(beat Malignaggi prior to face Pac) Margarito(beat Garcia before fighting Pac) Cotto WW champ(beat Clottey prior to face Pac) De La Hoya(Beat forbes prior to face Pac) Mosley(draw with a overweight Mora prior to face Pac) The only guy commin from a L, was Clottey!!! lmao wow prior to those guys beating bums (Jennings, Forbes, Garcia, ect) in mediocre perfomrances they were coming off of horrible losses. None of them were coming off note-worthy performances or ranked p4p yet Pacquiao still picked them to make his "super fights". Sure go ahead and throw JMM in there, the last guy who had a chance against Pacquiao, who we all know spanked Pacquiao across the ring.

JMM was the 130 Champ (beat Juarez prior to face Pac) Hatton the lineal 140 champ(beat Malignaggi prior to face Pac) Margarito(beat Garcia before fighting Pac) Cotto WW champ(beat Clottey prior to face Pac) De La Hoya(Beat forbes prior to face Pac) Mosley(draw with a overweight Mora prior to face Pac) The only guy commin from a L, was Clottey!!! margarito looked like **** against garcia cotto got beat up by clottey and most people thought he lost de la hoya looked like **** against steve forbes at 150 and forbes is a 140 fighter

How clever of you......but umm.......for the arguments sake let's say all that's true (it's not), that's still looking better than all the negatives in Pacquiao opposition as of late. But what can I expect from a filthy island rat who has no current elite boxers to root for at the moment? what's not true..?

This sh!t is gettin old... Can pick apart both of these guys resumes context of the fight etc we still aint gonna get anywhere

Truth right here ^ Not at all!!!!! :lame:

not a flomo or pactard, but atleast floyd fought em when they were coming off wins. pac fought the worse versions of the same fighters just be real about it you wont be labled flomo or pactard. JMM was the 130 Champ (beat Juarez prior to face Pac) Hatton the lineal 140 champ(beat Malignaggi prior to face Pac) Margarito(beat Garcia before fighting Pac) Cotto WW champ(beat Clottey prior to face Pac) De La Hoya(Beat forbes prior to face Pac) Mosley(draw with a overweight Mora prior to face Pac) The only guy commin from a L, was Clottey!!!

i like the way you discredit one guy's fights and totally hype the other. you are not biased at all