If Shane catches Manny the way he clipped Gayweather, it will not produce the same results. I'm convinced Floyd is chinny, thus the ultra defensive style (remember Roy)... Cotto stood up better to Shane's shots than Floyd did, and Cotto fought a closer to prime Shane.
Anyway, with that said, Shane won't be able to stop Manny tonight, not gonna happen. I see Manny putting a dramatic beatdown on Shane, it's gonna be sad to watch. Hope Brother Naz throws in the towel for Sugar.
Are we judging them at this point or throughout their whole careers?
Facts
One guy has only unofficially been KD'ed once in his career, while the other guy has been KD'ed multiple times.
How Manny can takes shots from bigger guys, but was wobbled a few times by Marquez is beyond me. Mayweather has been hurt before but never knocked down from a hard punch. He was rocked by Mosley but showed incredible rings smarts and recovery. Hopefully Mosley can land a good shot on Pac and we can see how effectively he takes it in comparison to Mayweather.
Manny was never hurt against Marquez...
Mayweather has a excellent chin.
Manny still has a questionable chin, for godsakes the dude has been knocked out twice, that would be like us saying Roy Jones has a good chin, which we no it not true.
Have you seen the fight?!! Or are you just basing that on Boxrec, Manny was just a teener with no amateur experience with Torrecampo that's why he doesn't know how to react yet with flush shots, in the 2nd KO Manny was severely dehydrated bacause his body was growing bigger from it's teenager frame...
Floyd has got what you call "untested chin"
he's never been hit with a flurry and volume of punches. We have no idea how he would withstand a Pacquiao combination.
Thats why he didnt take the fight.
Floyd has an idea of how he'll react to a Pacquiao Combo, and yes that's why he's avoiding him.
How Manny can takes shots from bigger guys, but was wobbled a few times by Marquez is beyond me. Mayweather has been hurt before but never knocked down from a hard punch. He was rocked by Mosley but showed incredible rings smarts and recovery. Hopefully Mosley can land a good shot on Pac and we can see how effectively he takes it in comparison to Mayweather.
There's a difference between the two. Floyd is defensive and gets hit less, while Manny has beenhit more.
did you actually read my post? i said the EXACT same thing in the post you quoted lol
Floyd has got what you call "untested chin"
he's never been hit with a flurry and volume of punches. We have no idea how he would withstand a Pacquiao combination.
Thats why he didnt take the fight.
Didn't Marquez knock Pac down? It doesn't even really matter who has the better chin, it matters who has the better defense which is why Floyd obviously uses all the tools he has to prevent himself from being knocked down.
If you want to debate who has the better chin ask Torrecampo, Singsurat and Marquez(who fought both fighters).
Fact-Manny Pacquiao could not last 3 rounds with Singsurat
Fact-Manny Pacquiao could not last 3 rounds with Torrecampo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sETbYUK96o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pa1H_TLmU
No he didn't.
Nice job though on comparing a Pacquiao of more than a decade ago to the Pacquiao now. That should definitely give you a proper gauge to Pac's chin at this very moment. Your reasoning capabilities are truly pristine.
Didn't Marquez knock Pac down? It doesn't even really matter who has the better chin, it matters who has the better defense which is why Floyd obviously uses all the tools he has to prevent himself from being knocked down.
If you want to debate who has the better chin ask Torrecampo, Singsurat and Marquez(who fought both fighters).
Fact-Manny Pacquiao could not last 3 rounds with Singsurat
Fact-Manny Pacquiao could not last 3 rounds with Torrecampo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sETbYUK96o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pa1H_TLmU
You are off base RE my post. I was showing that what happened to a starving teenager over 10 years ago is not relevant to the discussion of who NOW has a better chin. Thought that was what we were discussing
And since there are no stats for being wobbled, let's drop that.
And since 1999 was the last time Pac was KDed, what about Floyd? Was he ever KD? I've seen the Zab fight where he definitely touched the canvas, but it was not official. So, was he ever?
No, Floyd has never been KO'D thats why he's undefeated, KO would mean that you've lost a match. Floyd has touch the canvas before but it was ruled as a slip.
Come on, lets not act dumb, you know you've seen Pacquiao fans pick at Floyd for getting rocked.
who said pacquiao has never been beaten?
Some Pacquiao fans, they say "we might as well not count those loses" or they laugh at Floyd for getting rocked by Mosley "when Manny has actually been KO'D"
How can you pick at someone for getting rocked? By defending someone who has actually been knocked out?
WRONG, anyways that what I said.
Not alot of boxers retired undefeated, and the ones that did are called cherry pickers.
Like Rocky Marciano, people say he cherry picked and not once in his career was he the underdog, not once.
Calzaghe, alot of people say he never faced any real threats.
Undefeated means nothing, but Pacquiao fans surely want to act as if Pacquiao has never been beating, when they wont let Mayweather forget that his was rocked by Mosley,NOT EVEN A KNOCKDOWN, and especially not a knockout or loss.
who said pacquiao has never been beaten?