Than Floyd. Thats my opinion. Pac is all about agression and speed and Ortiz can take that and give it back. He's very strong and I believe he'd be too strong even for Pacroid, um, I mean Pacman.:D Plus he's taller, bigger, younger, naturally stronger and punches real hard. He could stop Pacman in 6 rounds even. He's not slow like Margarito and chinless like Hatton, he is in his peak which Cotto wasn't when he fought Manny and he is far more agressive than Clottey. Floyd however isn't the right opponent for Victor. He'd just run and play defense and is just too slick.
I agree he has an easier time hitting Manny and counting Ortiz power that is a big part of his game but he has a less painful night fighting Mayweather and probably more of a learning exp. Either guy I believe has a hard night, Ortiz if a big guy and quicker than most of the fighters either has been fighting... not to mention his power and technique. Tough night for any WW
mannys to quick and to smart for ortiz..ortiz just bulled his way in on berto and broke his will..dat aint gone happen with manny
Too SMART?!?Lol!:rofl: Manny has never been too smart for a top US fighter.
Has Manny ever even fought a southpaw???? he probably would freak out if he werent in with an orthodox mummy! He'd probably put in a stipulation that Ortiz has to fight right handed.
feb 2011..is that the month you started watching boxing??
Fair statement. However, both can and will beat Ortiz, if and when they meet. I do see FMJ schooling Ortiz more than Pac.
Funny you mentioned Marg, Cotto and Clottey. I think all three beats Ortiz @147
I'm not convinced. I think it may just be a fight any can win. Victor always looked massive to me at JWW, he may have been draining too much. But I'm no expert...
Fair statement. However, both can and will beat Ortiz, if and when they meet. I do see FMJ schooling Ortiz more than Pac.
Funny you mentioned Marg, Cotto and Clottey. I think all three beats Ortiz @147
Has Manny ever even fought a southpaw???? he probably would freak out if he werent in with an orthodox mummy! He'd probably put in a stipulation that Ortiz has to fight right handed.
Pacquiao fought DOZEN southpaws > Ortiz fought ONE southpaw
Explain me something: how does a younger, bigger and stronger guy get eaten alive by a smaller, older, natural fw/sfw?! Ortiz isn't slow, he's a natural ww and as I said already, he has power and his hands are fast too. If he lands enuff punches on Pacneedle, thats it. Nowhere to go. Steroids or not, he's still just human.
I don't know if he'd beat Manny, but the 161 lb Victor is a pretty tough customer for any current WW. I agree with you on that.
He'd get eaten alive. He's too basic/predictable and his defence is poor.
Explain me something: how does a younger, bigger and stronger guy get eaten alive by a smaller, older, natural fw/sfw?! Ortiz isn't slow, he's a natural ww and as I said already, he has power and his hands are fast too. If he lands enuff punches on Pacneedle, thats it. Nowhere to go. Steroids or not, he's still just human.
Has Manny ever even fought a southpaw???? he probably would freak out if he werent in with an orthodox mummy! He'd probably put in a stipulation that Ortiz has to fight right handed.