cuz he ran for his life when he got popped in the mouth. then cordoba fought his way back into the fight and made it a legit split decision, anyone could have won that fight and it wouldn't be considered a robbery
that was the death of his chances against all the big dogs from 118-130 RIGHT NOW. If the fights were to happen today, which is what we're talking about. He didn't say, in a year, or in 2 years.
Rigo ran for his life LOL!
Rigo has more than 400 fights in his back, he fought (no matter that he was in amateur) with all kind of boxers, fast boxers, skillful boxers, and strong boxers...
The fight wiht Cordoba was only a Rigo's mistake and not a Cordoba's succes.
I don't like Rigo vs Cordoba, any way the figth would be a UD.
Anyway and because of Cordoba's claim, three judges of the MB reevaluated the fight and the result was a clear UD.
Please don't mention again Cordoba as a real rival to Rigo, Cordoba is a mediocre boxer, 5 levels down the Rigo's class
Salido would be ko in 3 rounds fighting Rigo. Fighting Rigo is very dangerous for the health for a forward boxer with poor defense and poor technique.
Rigs on a good night is nearly untouchable. A great inside fighter will bother him big time, if you try and outbox him using distance, you will never win.
I think a few guys out there can make it tough for him especially if he has an off night..Gamboa, Donaire, maybe Nishioka. You have to be up on him though, you give him room to work, you are likely toast.
I agree with Mister Liquor on this one.
I still have my doubts about Rigo and was thinking the exact same thing.
you're my fantasy sports target now. i remember you called your shot talking withme before the season (never gave you the credit for it yet)
He's not inconsistent at all, you are talking only 1 fight here, yet you call the man inconsistent. How so? His 7th pro fight!
Amateur is a different sport only when it suits you. Now you're gonna say he had over 400 amateur bouts.
For ANY fighter to clearly defeat a vet like Córdoba in his 7th pro fight is quite an achievement. If someone doesn't see it that way, he's simply hating.
cordoba was a very good win for a dude with 7 fights.
Still doesn't answer the questions about riggy. Like what happens vs a hard nosed dude like salido. Or a bomber like donaire.
If he ran from that shot from cordoba, what happens when el ciclone blasts him or poony blows through him.
watch his fights with Cordoba and Addy and you will see his flaws.
Neither Córdoba nor Addy tried to march in on Rigondeaux, they both played conterpunchers.
When Addy tried to do it in the first round, see what happened.
perhaps youre right, 'failed' was a bit too harsh of a word. but I dont see them becoming the best in their divisions, thats all I meant. I should have used my word choice a bit more reasonably.
point taken.
Most of these guys won't be the best in their divisions. However, I think most will be solid professionals that no one can take lightly. There will be some, like Gamboa, that do become the best, or among the best. There will even be some that surprise "on the upside". Bottom line: Cubans will be well-represented, at least in line with their general presence in pro boxing.
Man, Rigondeaux is not new in his business, you really need to watch more of him to realize that your theory doesn't hold any water.
I'd like to see someone try to march in on Rigondeaux.
watch his fights with Cordoba and Addy and you will see his flaws.
Counterpunching is takign advantage of when a guy throws punches. If someone is able to march in on Rigondeaux to the inside, he will have success. Being good at counter punching doesnt mean you have the skill to keep someone off you, and Rigondeaux is very choosy with his punches.
Man, Rigondeaux is not new in his business, you really need to watch more of him to realize that your theory doesn't hold any water.
I'd like to see someone try to march in on Rigondeaux.
Name the Cuban amateur stars that have failed lately. Odlanier Solis (17-1)suffered a knee injury and was KOed against one of the dominant heavyweights of his time, Vitali Klitschko. Erislandy Lara (15-0-1) had a lackluster performance in his last outing, which ended in a draw. Yordanis Despaigne (8-1) lost a UD against a shining prospect in Ismayl Sillakh. None of these Cubans can be said to have failed...at least, not yet. The only former Cuban amateur star that might be verging on bust is Yan Barthelemy, who's 12-2, with one loss coming by way of TKO.
Just because these guys aren't setting the world on fire doesn't mean they're "failed stars". Because of their amateur pedigree, and the mystique that it carries, these athletes are sometimes unfairly labeled as disappointments. Give them some time to learn the pro game before you pass judgement. Some of these men will make it, some of them won't, but Cubans will have their share of stars in the professional boxing world. Bet on it.
perhaps youre right, 'failed' was a bit too harsh of a word. but I dont see them becoming the best in their divisions, thats all I meant. I should have used my word choice a bit more reasonably.
point taken.
To take the fight to him on the inside he must get there first, and that is exactly the problem with your theory, Rigondeaux is a brilliant counterpuncher with excellent movements and skills. Counterpunching is takign advantage of when a guy throws punches. If someone is able to march in on Rigondeaux to the inside, he will have success. Being good at counter punching doesnt mean you have the skill to keep someone off you, and Rigondeaux is very choosy with his punches.
Rigondeaux will accomplish little in boxing. Hes already pretty old for his weight class and his style relies on natural reflexes. and since hes not even fighting often and agaisnt limited competition its not like hes going to fight the best in the division any time soon.
Ive seen him troubled when the opponent doesnt let him play into his game. he really only looks spectacular when he gets to counter punch...once he fights someone who can take the figth to him on the inside or confuse him with potshotting, he will lose and dissapear.
Gamboa has much more potential than him, and Ive said that since the beginning.
hes too in love with his amateur style and doesnt think it needs any changing. this will cause him to fail soon, like many of the other cuban amateur stars lately.
Name the Cuban amateur stars that have failed lately. Odlanier Solis (17-1)suffered a knee injury and was KOed against one of the dominant heavyweights of his time, Vitali Klitschko. Erislandy Lara (15-0-1) had a lackluster performance in his last outing, which ended in a draw. Yordanis Despaigne (8-1) lost a UD against a shining prospect in Ismayl Sillakh. None of these Cubans can be said to have failed...at least, not yet. The only former Cuban amateur star that might be verging on bust is Yan Barthelemy, who's 12-2, with one loss coming by way of TKO.
Just because these guys aren't setting the world on fire doesn't mean they're "failed stars". Because of their amateur pedigree, and the mystique that it carries, these athletes are sometimes unfairly labeled as disappointments. Give them some time to learn the pro game before you pass judgement. Some of these men will make it, some of them won't, but Cubans will have their share of stars in the professional boxing world. Bet on it.
'take the fight to him on the inside' was my exact quote. Rigondeaux will get beat up when someone forces him to fight on the inside, and has the power to hurt him at very close range.
there a big difference between infighting and simply fighting offensively at midrange.
To take the fight to him on the inside he must get there first, and that is exactly the problem with your theory, Rigondeaux is a brilliant counterpuncher with excellent movements and skills.
That makes no sense at all. You are saying he shines when someone tries to take the fight to him (he gets to counterpunch) yet he will get confused when someone takes the fight to him??
You are really underestimating this guy's skills. The only thing against him is age now, agreed.
'take the fight to him on the inside' was my exact quote. Rigondeaux will get beat up when someone forces him to fight on the inside, and has the power to hurt him at very close range.
there a big difference between infighting and simply fighting offensively at midrange.
Ive seen him troubled when the opponent doesnt let him play into his game. he really only looks spectacular when he gets to counter punch...once he fights someone who can take the figth to him on the inside or confuse him with potshotting, he will lose and dissapear.
That makes no sense at all. You are saying he shines when someone tries to take the fight to him (he gets to counterpunch) yet he will get confused when someone takes the fight to him??
You are really underestimating this guy's skills. The only thing against him is age now, agreed.
Rigondeaux will accomplish little in boxing. Hes already pretty old for his weight class and his style relies on natural reflexes. and since hes not even fighting often and agaisnt limited competition its not like hes going to fight the best in the division any time soon.
Ive seen him troubled when the opponent doesnt let him play into his game. he really only looks spectacular when he gets to counter punch...once he fights someone who can take the figth to him on the inside or confuse him with potshotting, he will lose and dissapear.
Gamboa has much more potential than him, and Ive said that since the beginning.
hes too in love with his amateur style and doesnt think it needs any changing. this will cause him to fail soon, like many of the other cuban amateur stars lately.
I was talking about how you said the people picking those guys were the same people picking Casey to upset riggo. Lulz.
You're koo koo.
At least you finally let the truth out instead of skirting around what you wanted to say. An unproven guy just might be able to beat a lot of top fighters from 118-130 based on his potential and talent. That's true. He definitely is talented. Does that feel better than making wild allegations, denying the truth, and denying the truth?
I think he's too inconsistent and hasn't proven himself to be able to handle adversity well.
Bip whoop. Sorry you got your feelings hurt.
He's not inconsistent at all, you are talking only 1 fight here, yet you call the man inconsistent. How so? His 7th pro fight!
Amateur is a different sport only when it suits you. Now you're gonna say he had over 400 amateur bouts.
For ANY fighter to clearly defeat a vet like Córdoba in his 7th pro fight is quite an achievement. If someone doesn't see it that way, he's simply hating.
Well, none of those quotes says anything. And out of that list, only 2 or 3 are top. Rigondeaux sweeps the floor with the rest of them (Mares, Montiel, Juanma, Mikey, Rojas, Ponce De Leon, Broner) and it's 50/50 40/60 now with the top ones.
I was talking about how you said the people picking those guys were the same people picking Casey to upset riggo. Lulz.
You're koo koo.
At least you finally let the truth out instead of skirting around what you wanted to say. An unproven guy just might be able to beat a lot of top fighters from 118-130 based on his potential and talent. That's true. He definitely is talented. Does that feel better than making wild allegations, denying the truth, and denying the truth?
I think he's too inconsistent and hasn't proven himself to be able to handle adversity well.
Bip whoop. Sorry you got your feelings hurt.
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this is just one of A BUNCH of sources saying stuff like this
Roach, however, was unhappy with Rigondeaux's conditioning and didn't want him to fight Saturday, according to a source close to the trainer.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5066208
Well, none of those quotes says anything. And out of that list, only 2 or 3 are top. Rigondeaux sweeps the floor with the rest of them (Mares, Montiel, Juanma, Mikey, Rojas, Ponce De Leon, Broner) and it's 50/50 40/60 now with the top ones.
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