What should a natural WW weigh in at on fight night?

If a fighter is rehydrating more than 10 pounds, they may be too big for the division and capable of moving up without suffering. Ortiz weighing 161 was very surprising, he may not stay long at welterweight.

Today's "natural" welterweight is usually fighting at lightweight. Since a fighter should be in top shape at ALL times, and NOT allow himself to bloat and go too seed between fights, so that when training for a fight, he just needs to firm up his muscle mass and mostly practice moves and tactics. I'd think that he should, if in the shape I've just mentioned, rehydrate about 6-8 lbs. In today's boxing market, this is very rare. In the old days it was not uncommon to find a welterweight, say, weighing in at 144 or less, even when fighting a guy weighing 155. Ted "Kid" Lewis whom I wrote in about just yesterday was a good case in point. Sugar Ray Robinson, in his title fight against Light-heavy champ Joey Maxim, weighed in at about 155 against Maxim's 175. As you all know Robinson collapsed in the 13th from heat exhaustion when leading on all cards, (the ref was even replaced after the 10th ). The report was that Robinson after the fight weighed 146 lbs. Completely dehydrated.

This day and age making weight is easy, i know guys who weigh 220 that can get down to 175 easy... I know guys who weigh 160 who can make 140 easy....

WWs do not normally come in at 147-150 on fight night, even if they are in tip top shape. You can expect the majority of fighters to gain around 10 pounds or more (typically more) with the 24 hour weigh period. 147-150 is a very small WW, one who probably has no business fighting at 147 because of the size difference they'll encounter. I can almost guarantee you PBF hasn't come in at 147 on fight night ever since moving up to 147, no one does really (except for Pacquiao but he's the exception). Against JMM and Mosley he looked huge, he was more likely closer to 160 than 150. JMM claimed in the post fight that PBF had 20 pounds on him on fight night, which looked about right. We'll never know for sure since he refused to be weighed in on fight night which will leave you to believe he was pushing close to 160 in there. What are you talking about in the bold? He's come in at 147 and even less in each of his WW fights tracked by HBO's unofficial weigh in. He came in at around 147 vs Mitchell, Baldomir, and Judah. Example: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1512/judahmay.jpg And if you actually follow Floyd's fight night weigh in's, you would know he stopped unofficially weigh in for HBO as back as 2006, he didn't do it for the DLH fight, Hatton fight, Marquez fight and Mosley fight. The last fight he did it for was for Baldomir. When you officially weigh in at 150 for a JMW fight, you are not that big.

Victor weighing in at 161 seems pretty big, and to think he was moving up from 140. Berto coming in at 156 lbs seems about right. 147-153 is a small WW 154-158 is a regular WW 159+ is a huge WW

Orlando Salido Likely To Lose IBF Title, Before The Fight By Rick Reeno BoxingScene.com was advised that Orlando Salido will likely get stripped of his IBF featherweight title after reportedly being overweight for Saturday's morning weigh-in. Per the IBF rules, a fighter in the featherweight division can't weigh more than ten pounds over the division limit on the day of the fight. Salido is said to be 138-pounds after making the division limit of 126-pounds on Friday. As it stands at the moment, the IBF title will only be at stake for WBA champion Yuriorkis Gamboa when the two fighters collide in Saturday's main event at The Palms in Las Vegas. If Salido wins, he will become the WBA champion, but the IBF title becomes vacant. http://www.boxingscene.com/orlando-salido-likely-lose-ibf-title-fight--30857

Both came in at 140lbs coming from 126 on the HBO scales. That was the HBO unofficial scales. IBF did their own weigh in earlier, in the morning.

"There shall be a second weigh-in on the morning of the event. At this weigh-in, boxers cannot weigh more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit. If a boxer weighs more than ten (10)pounds over the weight limit, he will have two (2) hours thereafter to make the prescribed weight. If after two (2) hours he still weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit, the fight can proceed only as described below." http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/userfiles/File/RulesGoverningChampionshipContestsEffectiveSeptember1_2006with10_21_10amendments.pdf IBF same day weigh in happens in the morning, so I guess the fighter is still free to rehydrate the rest of the afternoon up until fight time.

IBF They stripped Salido the day he fought Gamboa because Salido gained 12 pounds after weigh in, maximum allowable was 10 Both came in at 140lbs coming from 126 on the HBO scales.

thanks. I think all should do the same. This would force guys to fight in their natural weight class. I don't think its a bad idea, saying you can gain x amount of weight... however, i hate to agree with the IBF...

you'll still have guys cutting weight to make the division, though. But worse, guys will be dehydrated in the ring and of course this increases the chance of head trauma. perhaps there could be a limit to how much you can rehydrate and very strong penalties if you go over. I believe this occurs sometimes already with a certain sanctioning body (can't remember who). IBF They stripped Salido the day he fought Gamboa because Salido gained 12 pounds after weigh in, maximum allowable was 10

What does clottey come in at, that guy always looked huge at ww.... He weighed around 170 for his WW fight with Corrales.

I'm sure he comes in at 160+. He's built like a tank. Yeah, hello balco scandel... everyone knows JCVD is a juicer

What does clottey come in at, that guy always looked huge at ww.... I'm sure he comes in at 160+. He's built like a tank.

get rid of weight classes. let everybody fight everybody, regardless of weight, may the best man win. just like they did in Bloodsport. JCVD #winning JCVD from Bloodsport gets KTFO by JCVD from Kickboxer

A natural WW SHOULD weigh within WW limits on fight nights. This crap about hydrating to middleweights on fight night negates the purpose of having weight classes. Not really, since fighters from every weight class do pretty much the same thing (bulk up on fight night). And when they do bulk up they weigh pretty close to each other, most of the time that is. The only weight class that doesn't put on weight on fight night are heavyweights, and that is pretty much self explanatory.

get rid of weight classes. let everybody fight everybody, regardless of weight, may the best man win. just like they did in Bloodsport. JCVD #winning

What does clottey come in at, that guy always looked huge at ww....

I've always believed that a guy who makes his weight comfortably and doesn't drain himself, has an advantage over a guy who dehydrates 20lbs and then tries to rehydrate in 24 hours. I could be wrong, if you disagree let me know why. I think if you're naturally about 150-155 you can drop to 147 and rehydrate with little damage to your stamina and power. if you're 160 plus you have to lose and come back 13 lbs just to get to your comfortable weight... almost seems to risky to me. Then again you're hoping to fight a guy that weights in at 147 and comes to the fight at 147 the whole weight thing is messed up

If they are in tip top shape, they usually come in around 147-150....floyd usually is 147. 161 is a little over the top for a WW IMO.. WWs do not normally come in at 147-150 on fight night, even if they are in tip top shape. You can expect the majority of fighters to gain around 10 pounds or more (typically more) with the 24 hour weigh period. 147-150 is a very small WW, one who probably has no business fighting at 147 because of the size difference they'll encounter. I can almost guarantee you PBF hasn't come in at 147 on fight night ever since moving up to 147, no one does really (except for Pacquiao but he's the exception). Against JMM and Mosley he looked huge, he was more likely closer to 160 than 150. JMM claimed in the post fight that PBF had 20 pounds on him on fight night, which looked about right. We'll never know for sure since he refused to be weighed in on fight night which will leave you to believe he was pushing close to 160 in there.