Victor ortiz reppin America!!!!!!!!!!

:lol1: So Berto gets downgraded to Haitian and Ortiz upgraded to American? So thats how it works. God bless :unitedsta

I always thought it was odd that mexican americans say very proudly that they are mexican, because at the end of the day they are a product of both cultures. I remember seeing victor ortiz fight vivian harris (i think it was) and he was wearing blue shorts that had "Kansas" on them. Talk about a breath of fresh air. From what i understand Ortiz has a very shady side to him, but i like his honesty when it comes to who he is.

you fake ass mexican fans called him a ***** and a quitter **** you hahahahahahahahaha :usa: Im pretty sure I saw a Mexican flag on his trunks. LOL

When did I once mention the "white man" and for the record I haven't drank one bit. It's just that people say things that they don't understand and they are very insulting. I don't blame anyone, don't play the victim and never have. I just think it's very "convenient" to want to claim people as American when it suits them. Like I said, where is this love when Mexican/Americans are drug dealers, gangbangers? Then we are the farthest things from American. This ^ What would happen if Ortiz went to Arizona where they Racially Profile Mexicans? Or do they do that to all Americans. Last time I checked Ortiz would be considered a "Anchor baby" by some. Only when its convenient to them we are welcomed.

Someones been drinking tonight :lol1: that would be "self-segregation" friendo the white man isnt forcing them into certain parts of towns but whatever your clearly strong in your convictions When did I once mention the "white man" and for the record I haven't drank one bit. It's just that people say things that they don't understand and they are very insulting. I don't blame anyone, don't play the victim and never have. I just think it's very "convenient" to want to claim people as American when it suits them. Like I said, where is this love when Mexican/Americans are drug dealers, gangbangers? Then we are the farthest things from American.

Cuat........ive never had a problem with you but your talking out of your ass your "passion" for the mexican plight is making you jump down everyones throat. i NEVER EVER said i had any problem with Ortiz repping his mexican heritage i wouldnt give a flying fukk if he would of said fukk America after the fight on national television i still would of applauded the victory so please sit the fukk down I never had a problem with you either but you said some very disrespectful sh1t. I have done nothing but show respect and love for the U.S but I will not allow someone to sit there and tell me that because some government makes borders that WE as displaced Mexicans should just forget our culture. I am a Mexican/American, lived in Mexico for a very long time. You can say I have a history like Margarito so to speak. People want to clame Ortiz or say he isn't Mexican or that I shouldn't take pride in my Mexican culture is wrong. Like I said, I'm sorry you don't know your culture, I really am. It's a shame you were taken from there and your parents forgot about where they came from. My parents were BORN in Mexico, I am first generation here so it wasn't easy for me to just dismiss Mexico as if it never existed in my life. The existence of the Mexican.American in this country is very unique, don't be insult or be condescending, you just don't understand.

umm do u consider dlh mexican??? if not, ortiz is definitely mexican-american.

doesn't matter if ortiz is mexican or american... what matters is that he exposed that hype-job berto!!! BOOTY TIME!!!! http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2862/whoisthis.gif Booty time? Your gif is telling me its about the fly tetas! Weeeeepaaa!

americans are a make up of everything. MOST americans find their ancestry outside of the country in places like....europe, latin america, africa, & even the middle east. i could care less about your 9 generation bullsh*t. if you were brought up in america as a baby you are AMERICAN with outside ancestry. which would make pauli Italian american & ortiz mexican american (america is a melting pot) 90% of ALL americans have OUTSIDE ancestry.......the only ones without outside ancestry are natives. ortiz = a surfer. sorry if this hurts your butt MAHAHAHAHAHAHA What's funny is dumasses like you falling for the "melting pot" line....LOL yea America is a real melting pot, is that why I can go to the black part of town, China town, Arab town, Korea town...etc... This isnt' not fukin melting pot dumbass, this is about as segregated as you can get. Like I said, Italy, Germany, Ireland are thousands of miles away, Mexico borders this country so our culture was never forgotten and never stopped being taught. I may be an American citizen but I am of Mexican blood 100% and so is my culture puto.

i guess im fukked as a fight fan i can only cheer for American fighters with a German-Welsh-English heritage Who ever said anything about who you can cheer for or be a fan of? I cheer for Mexican, American, Puerto Rican fighters, etc. as long as they put on a good show.

EXACTLY my point. fukk why cant anyone just enjoy a good fight? Because other people started this BS, me and azteca just answered it.

Dont make this something that it isnt quit all this victimization bullshit Welcome to America........where everyone hates everyones guts. Im sure all three of you are legal, law-abiding, stand-up, productive American citizens and i feel bad for the few that make the whole look bad. but the fact of the matter is.........you dont have it any worse than any other ethnicity in America in the sense of minorities I have many mexican friends that are never harrassed because they work their ass off and stay out of trouble so please refrain from playing the race card Who the fuk are you to come off as if you know anything about me? So because you know a few Mexicans you have understood the entire plight of Mexicans in this country? Typical ignorant ass....I guess black people should quit their complaining now since Obama is president right? Yes you are that guy... Look, UNLIKE white Americans, Mexican/Americans haven't forgotten their culture, never will. Don't like it, too fukin bad, deal with it. Nobody is playing the race card and nobody is playing the victim, we just CHOOSE to not forget where we come from. Just because you have, doesn't mean everyone else will. Chinese people don't , Arabs don't, Indians don't, Puerto Ricans don't, and neither do we. Tough sh1t....

EXACTLY my point. fukk why cant anyone just enjoy a good fight? I co sign this i just had to reply to what seems senseless in previous posts. At the end of the day i myself am Mexican American and i can say we got the best deal out. About the Italians prhaps i strayed from my focal point because Thunder Gatti is one of the illest boxers but **** it..i said it so i stand behind it putos. **** it... I'm proud of Ortiz as a boxer and as a warrior for Mexican Americans.

Damn right, he is American but his heritage, his culture, his lineage is Mexican!! Don't try to take that away from him, whats wrong with him identiftying himself as Mexican- American?? I bet you dont have the same grievance when Mickey Ward was called "Irish" Mickey Ward or "Italian" Arturro Gatti, or even a black fighter recognizing himself as African- American. Sadly too many caucasians lose their culture and dont respect and honore their roots, don't degrade him or any Mexican-American for being proud!! Mexican Americans have fought in every war in the United States since the American Revoultion and have more Medal of Honor recipents per capita thatn any other race, I think you just have isuues with Mexicans period

it has nothing to do with race. its nationality. reality is there is no real 'American' race, unless youre talking about Native Americans(unlikely) You are right. Its about nationality but, surely you can see the comparison in the video to what is currently going on in this thread. As MidnightSpecial put it, posters are actually crying about who owns the "rights" to cheer for him.

doesn't matter if ortiz is mexican or american... what matters is that he exposed that hype-job berto!!! BOOTY TIME!!!! http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2862/whoisthis.gif

he's mexican american much like pauli is Italian american. end thread here....... :headbang: Differnece is most Italian Americans are Jersey Shore clowns. Ortiz is the first generation of Mexican Americans in his fam. So the **** are you comparing dude? Play your position and quit being hypocritical by doing exactly what you point out. lol.

by your logic alvarez is now irish....... Not at all because Alvarez parents are Mexican. See I know it hurts your feelings but WE haven't lost our culture, even if you create borders, build fences and deport as many people as you want, it doesn't matter. Just like there are 9 generation is "Mexicans" in texas, Cali, New Mexico, Arizona etc that have lived under many flags, they are still Mexican. You can't just displace people and think they will forget their culture, we aren't European, won't happen. We are Mexican, American, we are both. To bad for you.

cause they are ****** bigots eating cheetos and watching MMA in between refresh button clicks. **** them, at the end of the day Mexican Americans>>>>All "American" Boxers...wtf is all american anyway? SMH at the queer surfer dudes trying to feel manly by watching a few fights.

His mother and father are pure "dirty" mexicans right? If he was in a southern state or AZ he would be called as such, right? He speaks spanish, is proud of his heritage and fights for both nations...right? Thus he's Mexican AMerican. I'm sure if anyone asks him what he is he would reply as such. Dumb asses make such a big ****ing deal about nothing. Although it might not count as a champion for mexico, we are still proud of a fighter that falls in line with our culture/nationality. Truth of the matter is he's a great boxer and i've always been behind him. Pinches gringos hipocritas...nos mandan a la verga cuando perdemod pero bien que nos ponen su puta estampa de "American" cuando nos chingamos a los putos boxeadores de mierda. CHingen su madre. :) Funny how they don't want to answer your post or mine... Do you want us to be part of your country or not???