I think it's sad that the klitschko brothers get trashed on here mostly because they tend to attract hardcore racist fans on here (ahem).
I know they have weaknesses having lost a few times and maybe people don't like their style or whatever but for the most part they are the dominant force in heavyweight of this era. Who doesn't have weaknesses? You can wax on and on about how the era sucks or whatever but honestly a lot of eras have sucked in heavy and had one or two dominant forces during those eras.
Primary reasons to hate them:
1). Some losses. Most good to great fighters do eventually lose. Some greats like Ali lose during their prime years (yes we can argue about his prime but you get my point).
2). Hatred of European fighters. Fine that's just being a fan but you still have to try to be objective when you are saying they suck. Unlike protected Euro fighters they DID come here and DID face anyone that stepped up. It's not their fault no one is any good anymore and they can make way more money and get way more fame in Germany
3). Style. Fine that's an asthetic thing. Whatever.
4. Anti white racism- I mean honestly if this is your reason then go get ****ed.
5. Their racist fans- I think this is the primary reason people hate them on this forum. And hell I understand it, but still they aren't bad objectively just because their fans on this forum are retards.
Don't let your hate of clowns like Tunney blind you. Give credit where credit is due. They are very good fighters.
hahahah, I really got into this ******* skin didn't I.
Hey vagina: Name a black fighter you like? And did you or did you not prop up castefootball the website (I and many others saw you did so go ahead and deny it).
And yes I'm clearly racist because I just made a post giving props to 2 white Euro fighters.
It's amazing that they give someone as slow as you computer access.
But your bull**** aside, way to miss the point of the thread.
I dont think its anything to do with skin colour, most of the racism I see towards them is regards their nationality.....and the fact one of them fights like a be@tch :boxing:
Wlad should retire for a year and let other heavyweights fight each other and when one of them emerges as the #1 heavyweight, people will hug his nuts and call him the truth. Wlad should then come back, dominate him and knock him out. People will have no choice but to give the man his respect.
Respect the bros, hate most of their fans with a passion.
they do have some extremly racist followers on here..ive recieved some pretty racist messages from a few of them...yet im a fan of vitali and wlad
I think every fighter who has fans in here have some racist ones. It may not be all blatant racism, but you will see heavy loads of ethnic pride in this place, that escalates during thread p*ssing contests into full blown bigotry, even if that was not their intent.
Most of the "racism" we see in here may not be real hatred or racism. It seems mostly to be ethnic pride gone overboard because the ones guilty of it are too dumb to carry on an actual argument, so they reduce themselves to the lowest common denominator.
EXAMPLES: floyd, pacquiao, cotto, donaire, valero, JCC Jr., alvarez, margarito, P4P QUEEN sergio, etc.
clearly and demonstrably, americans root for boxers of ALL ethnicities and nationalities.
americans don't hate the klitchkos because they're racist, we americans hate the klitchkos because A) they suck B) they're boring C) they have the worst fans on earth.
crying racism is one example why we don't like their fans. we don't like to be called racist when we root for boxers of ALL ETHNICITIES.
So you speak for the entire country now? If that's the case, America is screwed.
Not only are they exceptional fighters, but they are too dominant. That is why some have lost interest, it is because they are so good, we know the result before the fight even happens.
They are also smart businessmen. They make money doing everything.
They bought this boat here http://salmoneye.net/siteimages/salmon_fishing_boat.jpg
They did some work on it. Added some rooms and 3 extra bathrooms. They then flipped it for a huge profit. Here is the current pic of it.
http://tradingmastermind.com/ForexTradingLifestyle/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Lady-Moura-Yacht-For-a-Prince.jpg
It goes to show what good investments can do. Sorry for the thread crapping. I just spied Reed's sig in here!haha
white people complaining about racism is more proof a dramatic change is coming on the earth in 2012????????
:lol1: Maybe youre right. I'm not complaining...tho noone can deny such racism does exist. But lets leave it there.
People don't like Wlad cause he is boring, so so boring and defensive and afraid to mix it up.
Vitali on the other hand is often quite entertaining to watch and is always going forward throwing punches and daring the guy to stand and fight (anybody who does gets sparked) I support him in his fights.
I'd say most neutrals would agree with the above.
I don't like that they get mesh into one super fighter.
They're both different fighters with different resumes, different attributes, and different.
It is Vitaly Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko NOT Vitamir Klitschko. And, some fans likes to combine both which is just ridiculous.
I think Wlad is a HOF'er and when is all said and done I think Wlad could arguably be somewhere in the top 15 ATG HW.
Vitaly on the other hand, I don't think is a HOF'er. The man best win are against a golfer and fights that he actually lost.
I think Vitali will get into the HOF whether he deserves it or not, though I agree Wlad is and should be a sure-fire HOFer.
I think it's sad that the klitschko brothers get trashed on here mostly because they tend to attract hardcore racist fans on here (ahem).
I know they have weaknesses having lost a few times and maybe people don't like their style or whatever but for the most part they are the dominant force in heavyweight of this era. Who doesn't have weaknesses? You can wax on and on about how the era sucks or whatever but honestly a lot of eras have sucked in heavy and had one or two dominant forces during those eras.
Primary reasons to hate them:
1). Some losses. Most good to great fighters do eventually lose. Some greats like Ali lose during their prime years (yes we can argue about his prime but you get my point).
2). Hatred of European fighters. Fine that's just being a fan but you still have to try to be objective when you are saying they suck. Unlike protected Euro fighters they DID come here and DID face anyone that stepped up. It's not their fault no one is any good anymore and they can make way more money and get way more fame in Germany
3). Style. Fine that's an asthetic thing. Whatever.
4. Anti white racism- I mean honestly if this is your reason then go get ****ed.
5. Their racist fans- I think this is the primary reason people hate them on this forum. And hell I understand it, but still they aren't bad objectively just because their fans on this forum are retards.
Don't let your hate of clowns like Tunney blind you. Give credit where credit is due. They are very good fighters.
Well, when you got 2 good big white guys in a sport that has been black-dominated for so long, its inevitable (for yanks:"unavoidable":D) that some white racists will get attracted to them. And ofc, the other way, that anti-white racists will put them in their black book. But who cares. They kick arse and they still rule the division. All Haye does is run his mouth and say how he's gonna ko them. The rest are pretty much useless.
So my advice to everybody who doesn't like the Klits: GET USED TO EM!
I don't like that they get mesh into one super fighter.
They're both different fighters with different resumes, different attributes, and different.
It is Vitaly Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko NOT Vitamir Klitschko. And, some fans likes to combine both which is just ridiculous.
I think Wlad is a HOF'er and when is all said and done I think Wlad could arguably be somewhere in the top 15 ATG HW.
Vitaly on the other hand, I don't think is a HOF'er. The man best win are against a golfer and fights that he actually lost.
Dont ever say that to me again.
hahahahahaa, I knew it.
Hey I mean to be honest it's not Roys. He can't throw doubles and triples or jump into it like Roy. Just saying, it's a good lead left hook :)
EXAMPLES: floyd, pacquiao, cotto, donaire, valero, JCC Jr., alvarez, margarito, P4P QUEEN sergio, etc.
clearly and demonstrably, americans root for boxers of ALL ethnicities and nationalities.
americans don't hate the klitchkos because they're racist, we americans hate the klitchkos because A) they suck B) they're boring C) they have the worst fans on earth.
crying racism is one example why we don't like their fans. we don't like to be called racist when we root for boxers of ALL ETHNICITIES.
I didn't cry racism. I said ON THIS BOARD the primary reason is that THEY HAVE RACIST FANS.
Jesus christ. I thought I made it clear. The rest of the reasons are reasons I've heard but not a consensus by any means.
As for the resume: who are they supposed to fight?
Token fighters after openly being racist don't count.
Btw Reed: I think Wlads lead left hook reminds me a bit of Roys. I know...blasphemy right?
Dont ever say that to me again.
I dont care what another dude looks like...
Tunney has said he like Paul Williams after going to one of his fights.
And of course, he loves Roy :)
Token fighters after openly being racist don't count.
Btw Reed: I think Wlads lead left hook reminds me a bit of Roys. I know...blasphemy right?