I voted for the Klits because despite the void of talent, they've never fought down to their opponents levels. They've fought good fighters, just made them look like nobodies. Its hard to **** on both those guys level of dominance.
And honestly...I've never rated Rafael Marquez very high. I think the world of JMM though and think he's an exemplary fighter. But looking at the big picture...the Klits completely wreck the HW division and really, nobody comes close to them, even at their advance age
Rafael Marquez
2-weight division champion
Win over Vazquez ****s on whole Vitali resume
2005
P4P #8
2006
P4P #7
2007
P4P #10
2008
P4P #7
2009
P4P #8
Vitali
2000-10
P4P #0
p4p is subjective and is not really a good gauge of resume
I didnt even realize Rafael Marquez was still considered a real boxer, I thought he was having a best of 10 series with Israel Vazquez.
Rafael Marquez
2-weight division champion
Win over Vazquez ****s on whole Vitali resume
2005
P4P #8
2006
P4P #7
2007
P4P #10
2008
P4P #7
2009
P4P #8
Vitali
2000-10
P4P #0
im not gonna say whose resume is better. Cause I dont really know the resume of the marquez brothers.
But the klitschkos are more famous, have dominated their division for so many years and won all of their fights in dominating fashion.
So when someone asks me the greatest boxing brothers I think of the K bros immediatly.
well, at first marquez bros was the easy pick.
wlad and vitali have been dominant in a rather stagnant division.
juan manuel and rafael have lost some of the biggest fights in their career, but it is just that their competition is better.
Sometimes me and my brother go down to the elementary school and kick the **** out of some third graders. Clearly we are greater than both pairs of brothers because we dominate. We have never lost, never been knocked out in embarrassing fashion.
Come on. You have to figure in their competition and the Marquez brothers take this one by a mile.
Because they aren't in the same weight division, they have never been 1 and 2 in the same division at the same time, unlike the Klitschkos.
They could get to the same division. What a joke people picking the marquez brothers are. Neither one has even ever been the best in their division. Both are in division of tiny men that make up like 2% of the population. There are so many more HW's then guys between 121-125 lbs. So the talent pool the Klitschko's face is so much deeper. They dominate much much more, they bring in a ton more money...in every way you can define greatness the Klitschko's are better. In every single way.
Marquez Bros, easy pick. They will go down in history as the best boxing duo of all time.
Gibbons' brothers > Marquez brothers.
There's a possibility although slim that the Marquez could take over them in the future but I doubt it. Imo anyway.
Klitschko's and its not even close. You dont hear anyone clammorig for the marquez brothers to fight eachother do you. Why?
Because they aren't in the same weight division, they have never been 1 and 2 in the same division at the same time, unlike the Klitschkos.
Klitschko's and its not even close. You dont hear anyone clammorig for the marquez brothers to fight eachother do you. Why? Because no one would give a ****. Vitali and Wlad make more money in a single night then either brother makes in a decade. They could buy and sell either marquez brother if they wanted. The only people who choose the marquez brothers are the same people who would pick Rocky Marciano to KO Vitali. Its pure opinionated non-factual crap. Rafael Marquez isnt even the most famous Rafael Marquez in his country.
Youre going to have to prove to me that Silence Mabuza is better than guys like Herbie Hide, or Chris Byrd or Gomez etc...I didnt even realize Rafael Marquez was still considered a real boxer, I thought he was having a best of 10 series with Israel Vazquez. Klitschko's fight in an open weight class, youre going to tell me theres more talent with guys weighing under 125 lbs than guys weighing over 200 lbs...get out of here. People who use the talent pool argument should at least attest to that making no sense. And then just pure dominance of a division. JMM cries when a guy weighs two more pounds than him.
marquez brothers and it's not even a contest in my eyes. but this is a subjective game.
juan manuel is one of the planet's greatest active boxers. his best days are behind him, but he's still among the most skilled men in the sport. his ledger alone is superior to that of either brother klitschko, who have fought in a division largely void of talent.
additionallly, the brothers marquez boast three FOTY's between them. From '07 to '09, the years best fights according to ring magazine all involved a marquez.
marquez and katsidis was my pick for the best fight of last year as well.
put up a poll, homeslice
done brotha
So you just dismiss the level of opposition?
No, definitely not. It's a close call for me. But when I look at how Marquez had so much trouble with a guy like Juan Diaz, who is B level IMO, it hurts him. Whereas the K brothers fight B level fighters all the time and dominate them.
I think it's definitely debatable though.
Wlad and Vitali or Rafael and Juan Manuel?
marquez brothers and it's not even a contest in my eyes. but this is a subjective game.
juan manuel is one of the planet's greatest active boxers. his best days are behind him, but he's still among the most skilled men in the sport. his ledger alone is superior to that of either brother klitschko, who have fought in a division largely void of talent.
additionallly, the brothers marquez boast three FOTY's between them. From '07 to '09, the years best fights according to ring magazine all involved a marquez.
marquez and katsidis was my pick for the best fight of last year as well.
put up a poll, homeslice