If Wlad beats Haye, where would you rank it?

C. Wladimir is the favorite for a reason.

nothing . hayes a bum. wlad is good though just that haye is being built up . he's even more a blown up cruiserweight than holyfield was

Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis THE TRUTH Points and scorecards are for volleyball games you retarded crybaby. Boxing is about phucking your opponent up and #winning the match. Your opinions mean nothing, go cry somewhere else: http://i50.tinypic.com/15g4742.gif TKO 6 http://i47.tinypic.com/295e6xj.gif http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1008/box_lewis_klitschko_600.jpg

Chambers has a better resume than Hypejob Haye you retarded troll. Are you still going through puberty? You just seem very uptight and angsty tis all. People have opinions and sometimes they won't hold the same opinion as you, this does not necessarily make them a 'retarded troll'. Neither Klitschko needs you to defend them like your daughter's virginity. When you mature and mellow out a little, you'll see what I mean. Till then, I expect some Red K and a comment calling me a 'retard ******' or something equally inarticulate.

C rated, Haye hasn't demonstrated anything to be regarded as high as he is in some circles. It's a step over the Juan Carlos Gomez bullcrap but not that big of a step up. and btw, only if Lennox won decisively which he didn't should his win over Vitali be placed high at all. And having said that, it's not even close to being on the level of all time great wins. If you're going to make Tyson over Spinks B level, i don't see why Lennox over a Vitali due to a stoppage on cuts when he was behind on the cards constitutes an A level win. Im rating based on caliber of opponent if you didnt notice. Vitali Klitschko was age 31 and at his absolute best when Lennox faced him. Spinks is only B level because he was fighting outside his primary weight class. LHW Spinks was a monster.

B minus, The thing is a Wlad win does less for him than a Haye win would do for Haye, So Wlad is taking more risk for this fight so credit to him.

I find it odd that you place Louis' win over Billy Conn as the same as Wladimir Klitschko beating fat Eddie Chambers. This will be a C/B level win.

C rated, Haye hasn't demonstrated anything to be regarded as high as he is in some circles. It's a step over the Juan Carlos Gomez bullcrap but not that big of a step up. and btw, only if Lennox won decisively which he didn't should his win over Vitali be placed high at all. And having said that, it's not even close to being on the level of all time great wins. If you're going to make Tyson over Spinks B level, i don't see why Lennox over a Vitali due to a stoppage on cuts when he was behind on the cards constitutes an A level win.

You said "Wlad was scared to throw" LIE You need to figure out the the difference between a fact and an opinion before you start throwing around the L word. It is clearly my opinion that Wlad was scared to throw. I never stated it as fact, so its ridiculous to call it a lie. When you say:"Vitali scared Lennox into retirement" This is merely your opinion You can not prove exactly what was going on inside his hall-of-fame head when he made his decision. When I say: Lennox defeated Vitali Klitschko TKO6 this is a FACT. A fact verified on Lennox's record as well as Vitali's record.

It would be a great win for Wlad as nobody seems to be able to beat Haye or be ahead of him in a fight. Haye has never been counted out to ten as well, stopped on his feet yes.

B rated victory

To me it would just be another defence in a sad heavyweight division.

A C level win. In reality, Haye is a small HW, and hasn't beaten anyone of note in the division thus far. Klitschko is supposed to win. Haye has the punchers chance. Rooting for Haye all the way though!

says the retarded racist Klitschko hater. JoeyZagz's entire post is a big lie and you know it. joeyzags is racist? lol! if hes racist its against black ppl (which he isnt), but damn sure not whites. hes white and so are the majority of fighters he supports, but since the klitschkos arent on that list hes still racist? what a load of crap. especially coming from a guy who called me a "rfetarded" n.igger like a week ago. havent u gotten it through your thick skull that nobody, and i mean nobody even takes you seriously anymore? we already know your opinion, the k bros are great, all white fighters are great and everyone else sucks. the darker they are the more they suck. we got it! after all these years we got it. now stfu and go beat of to some nazi p.orn.

beating haye would be a B level win imo, just barely though. B- or C+.

-Chambers is only 208 lbs: Fact -Chambers has an embarrassingly low 47% Ko ratio Fact -Emanuel Steward called Wlad's performance Bullshit in front of millions of viewers. Fact Where is the lie you stupid motherphucker? I don't believe that Vitali was an A level win at the time Lennox beat him. I don't know what Chambers' weight or KO ratio have to do with anything. Are Joe Louis, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, etc considered worse boxers because they weighed the same or less than Chambers? Are Willie Pep, Pernell Whitaker or Nicolino Locche considered lesser boxers because of their KO %? Counting newspaper decisions, Jack Johnson's KO % was less than 38%. Given your ATG, A, B, etc ratings, Chambers was a B win and Gomez a C win. Haye I would call a B win, helped a bit by his accomplishments at CW. And who cares what Steward said to him during the fight to motivate him to get a KO? (which he then got)

It would be a good win and he will have an alphabet title. But would not be any closer to greatness. Looking back at the great heavyweight champs, they all have wins that they were supposed to lose, fights were they overcame the odds to win. Today the champs just beat most of the guys they are supposed to beat, but going in, they are still the strong favorite! Not the kind of thing great wins are made of.

JoeyZagz's entire post was a big lie. -Chambers is only 208 lbs: Fact -Chambers has an embarrassingly low 47% Ko ratio Fact -Emanuel Steward called Wlad's performance Bullshit in front of millions of viewers. Fact Where is the lie you stupid motherphucker?

Its a good win, in no way great Its just a big hype money fight

it'd be a B level win imo. like It's Ovah said above, he has other great wins as well, but compared to the level of ATG and A level wins you posted, yeah, it'd be a B level.