So just because a guy who most of this site thinks has a SERIOUS case to be P4P Number 1 landed a great shot and beat Paul means that guys like Kell Freaking Brook will do the same?
Gimme a break.
Paul destroys Kell Brook. And I like the kid but cmon.
I don't know if Kell Brooks would ko him but I don't see him being in the top of division ever again.
No one wants to fight him at 147, for obvious reasons. I think he could reach the top of 154 again, but unless he improves his game, a fighter just as big, as strong, and as quick as Williams will always have his number. Martinez & Quintana laid the blueprint.
Why would he hold a grudge over you receiving racial remarks, Dazed is one of the few excellent posters on this site, why are you telling me this anyway?
Just leave it alone, dog. He doesn't even realize what his post really says about him.
Williams' best ever win was an extremely narrow decision over Margarito who went on to be knocked out by teeny tiny midgets. Williams was never that good and now he's fighting guys his size his washing-line jaw is going to be smashed in again and again.
Checkmate........ Mike is just trolling. Trying to get under my skin.
Hey how about Amir Khan. Hes shot too.
So is Wlad. And Joe Louis was shot before his ten year title reign.
Cmon now.
I doesn't usually works that way. unless a freak accident occurred.
John Ruiz was brutally kayoed by Tua but came back to do some decent things.
Duran was KTFO by Hearns. Came back and won Word titles again.
Roy Jones was KTFO by Tarver and Johnson but came back and beat Jeff Lacy :D
Evander was kayoed by Riddick Bowe but came back and beat Tyson twice.
Lennox brutally kayoed twice, came back and win again.
Thank you. That loss was bad, and he may have a tough road back, but assuming Williams is done cause he got splattered once is silly. I swear, a bunch of ADD children watch boxing these days: If a guy cant jump multiple divisions, hes garbage. If a fighter gets knocked out, hes through. Etc. etc.
I think Williams will get back on track but I don't think his promoter will match him up tough for a while, just to regain his confidence again. I've seen a little of Kell Brook but what people have to consider is that Brook will be a freaking midget compared to Williams and who has Brook faced?
I'm with Ceilings on this, I think Williams works him over if they fought.
You guys should really look at the records of the dudes that he has fought.....it is disgusting to say the least.
Peter Buckley 145¼ 31-189-10
Leeroy Williamson 158 12-46-2
Brian Coleman 161 24-139-7
Karl Taylor 155 16-77-6
Ernie Smith 155½ 11-80-3
Ernie Smith 157½ 12-85-4
Ernie Smith 154¼ 13-97-5
Geraint Harvey 51½ 3-26-0
David Kirk 154 11-58-3
I mean are you for real, where the heck did they find this guy Ernie Smith? What a joke
Cmon now.
I doesn't usually works that way. unless a freak accident occurred.
John Ruiz was brutally kayoed by Tua but came back to do some decent things.
Duran was KTFO by Hearns. Came back and won Word titles again.
Roy Jones was KTFO by Tarver and Johnson but came back and beat Jeff Lacy :D
Evander was kayoed by Riddick Bowe but came back and beat Tyson twice.
Lennox brutally kayoed twice, came back and win again.
Checkmate........ Mike is just trolling. Trying to get under my skin.
Hey how about Amir Khan. Hes shot too.
Williams is done.....
That shot from Martinez liquefied Paul's skeleton and Pdubb will never be the same.
I think we might see him as a gatekeeper losing to guy's like Brad Solomon, Mike Jones and other up and coming WW's/JMW's that are working their way up the rankings.
In a thread a few months ago you said that fighters being ruined were overrated.
And now this..lol. Cmon Mike.
Iv'e called Williams overrated in a P4P sense for a long time. He was ranked number 3-5 by most publications and websites, but Williams will most def destroy Kell Brook. Williams is top ten P4P but somewhere from 7-10, not top 4 like everyone was saying.
As with most fighters and fights the fags here on bscene jump from bandwagon to bandwagon faster than they go from cock to cock.....pure front running fags.......
That's what's happening here Burner......one bad loss and all of a sudden
I don't know why critics say he's an overrated boxer. Paul Williams is a solid boxer, there is a lot of positives about him. There is very little shame in losing to Martinez, other than losing. He's going to rebound from that loss and come back, and maybe somewhere down the line we will see Williams vs Martinez III.
I don't even think Williams hates Martinez. Williams should fight Pirog
So just because a guy who most of this site thinks has a SERIOUS case to be P4P Number 1 landed a great shot and beat Paul means that guys like Kell Freaking Brook will do the same?
Gimme a break.
Paul destroys Kell Brook. And I like the kid but cmon.
Iv'e called Williams overrated in a P4P sense for a long time. He was ranked number 3-5 by most publications and websites, but Williams will most def destroy Kell Brook. Williams is top ten P4P but somewhere from 7-10, not top 4 like everyone was saying.
As with most fighters and fights the fags here on bscene jump from bandwagon to bandwagon faster than they go from cock to cock.....pure front running fags.......
That's what's happening here Burner......one bad loss and all of a sudden
Williams will be a more gun shy and boring fighter than before no doubt. As for the subject about the poster Top Rank at least he doesn't put dudes on iggy like that poster Al Haymon did. Remember that cat? Ha.
I'm still trying to figure out why some posters cry because I give them red K's.
I was just ask Walt Liquor a simple question and out of no where some cry baby clowns started whining about me given them red karma a while ago.....
IMO it's not that serious...
If he becomes more defensive and gun shy it will be better for him as most likley that will entail him using his height and reach better, atm he fights like he is 5'10. Lets hope he don't turn into another Klitcshko though lol
Yeah, that is the point when John Ruiz learned to hug.
Before that he was much less cautious.
Kind of like Wlad before Sanders. Wlad was kind of an offensive wild man machine but Sanders tempered his approach.
Williams will be a more gun shy and boring fighter than before no doubt. As for the subject about the poster Top Rank at least he doesn't put dudes on iggy like that poster Al Haymon did. Remember that cat? Ha.
I don't know why people lie about bets.
When I bet 25 I say it.
When I lose 200 like I did when Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins I whine and cry about it forever. :lol1:hahahahahahaha :lol1:
Not only this but when's the last time a british fighter was the most feared fighter in 3 weight divisions at one point? Rockey Hatton got trashed by the big boys and left Jr welterweight division when it was just getting good.
Do you really think anybody takes an 18 year old with gucci mane is his avatar seriously?
As far as Pwill, it all depends on his mental state. None of us known him personally, so who knows. That K.O could be a career ruiner.
No I make the initial comment asking about good posters in the red?
This doesn't even make sense, and I have no idea what your asking me then.
I have no idea what good posters are in red, which is why I asked Walt who he was referring to.
Tamis is a good poster, IMO. He was in red, but that was a long @ss time ago.
He has been in green for over a year or so (just a guess on my part), but again that's the last one I knew that was in red.
Are you trying to say I'm contradicting myself by saying Karma doesn't mean anything but I put a poster, Tamis, in green? If so....then just say that
Why would he hold a grudge over you receiving racial remarks, Dazed is one of the few excellent posters on this site, why are you telling me this anyway?
My bad, Im on my phone and I thought you asked why did I red K people or him in particular.
It's hard to read and quote this thread, so disregard that last part.
As far as Dazed...dude is a clown and far from a good poster.