Solis doubters proved correct?

He was good for two minutes and that's some moral victory? LOL He was a lazy sloth before and it caught up with him Saturday. That it may have been pre-existing makes this even funnier. Biggest pro fight he's had (and it's not like he'd beaten anyone worth a damn yet anyways) and there were people happy that he came in less fat. It's repugnant that some heap like Solis makes seven figures while fighters in other weight divisions who work their ass off have to be three times as good and 100 times as professional to dream of that sort of check. Just deal with the fact that he sucks for a ton of reasons and move on I don't believe that it was pre-existing, he would have been wearing a knee band. A cruciate ligament is either damaged or not, if damaged it's hard to walk, it can be broken or snapped like happened to Klitschko himdelf causing 4 years of retirement. He could have had some cartilage (meniscus) problem, which, if torn can be pared back, but why in that case would he know have a knee band?? I just don't believe it.

http://www.*************.com/columns/odlanier-solis-not-championship-material/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/19/vitali-klitschko-odlanier-solis-heavyweight http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/mar/14/vitali-klitschko-solis-odlanier-heavyweight-wbc In my opinion, no. Those lazy journo's who wrote off solis all get to excersize their confirmation bias but the reality is that they were wrong. Solis did look like he could have made the fight very competitive. He was winning the round and the shot he did take landed while his left foot was slipping (the slip which damaged his cruciate ligaments in his right knee). Of course he could have gone on to lose but there was nothing to suggest, from the little we saw last night, that he was as heavily outmatched as these people were predicting. I'm not trying to undermine Vitali, I just wanted to ask: is anyone else getting sick of poor boxing journalists who can't read boxing? they just follow the hype train and put down underdogs because it's easy. Now they all get to say how brilliant they are at reading styles because solis had a freak injury which none of them were previously aware of. Eli you are wrong. Klitschko was in complete control of that round with his left hand. Solis only made a few sporadic rushes, the vast majority of which did not connect at all. He showed spirit, which you confuse as success.

Some writers, like Eric Raskin of The Ring, thought Solis was a potential champion. See the article in the current issue. Teddy Atlas thought he'd beat Vitali. They were guilty of looking at what COULD be and hoping for it. It was overly optimistic given the evidence. When he busted out a 271 on the scale, the gig was up. Anyone should have seen the writing on the wall that dude just didn't care enough to care about.

http://www.*************.com/columns/odlanier-solis-not-championship-material/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/19/vitali-klitschko-odlanier-solis-heavyweight http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/mar/14/vitali-klitschko-solis-odlanier-heavyweight-wbc In my opinion, no. Those lazy journo's who wrote off solis all get to excersize their confirmation bias but the reality is that they were wrong. Solis did look like he could have made the fight very competitive. He was winning the round and the shot he did take landed while his left foot was slipping (the slip which damaged his cruciate ligaments in his right knee). Of course he could have gone on to lose but there was nothing to suggest, from the little we saw last night, that he was as heavily outmatched as these people were predicting. I'm not trying to undermine Vitali, I just wanted to ask: is anyone else getting sick of poor boxing journalists who can't read boxing? they just follow the hype train and put down underdogs because it's easy. Now they all get to say how brilliant they are at reading styles because solis had a freak injury which none of them were previously aware of. He was good for two minutes and that's some moral victory? LOL He was a lazy sloth before and it caught up with him Saturday. That it may have been pre-existing makes this even funnier. Biggest pro fight he's had (and it's not like he'd beaten anyone worth a damn yet anyways) and there were people happy that he came in less fat. It's repugnant that some heap like Solis makes seven figures while fighters in other weight divisions who work their ass off have to be three times as good and 100 times as professional to dream of that sort of check. Just deal with the fact that he sucks for a ton of reasons and move on

http://www.*************.com/columns/odlanier-solis-not-championship-material/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/mar/19/vitali-klitschko-odlanier-solis-heavyweight http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/mar/14/vitali-klitschko-solis-odlanier-heavyweight-wbc In my opinion, no. Those lazy journo's who wrote off solis all get to excersize their confirmation bias but the reality is that they were wrong. Solis did look like he could have made the fight very competitive. He was winning the round and the shot he did take landed while his left foot was slipping (the slip which damaged his cruciate ligaments in his right knee). Of course he could have gone on to lose but there was nothing to suggest, from the little we saw last night, that he was as heavily outmatched as these people were predicting. I'm not trying to undermine Vitali, I just wanted to ask: is anyone else getting sick of poor boxing journalists who can't read boxing? they just follow the hype train and put down underdogs because it's easy. Now they all get to say how brilliant they are at reading styles because solis had a freak injury which none of them were previously aware of. Everything you said is 100% true.

they were rhetorical. fact is, Solis was ko/tkoed in the first round. fact is, Solis struggled and gassed against a ****ty over 40 Ray Austin fact is, Solis was still overweight and needed to lose 20 or more lbs to even have a chance of beating Vitali Solis had little to no shot at beating Vitali. maybe if he came in shape, but until they have the fight in fantasy land, that will never happen. touche....

ko = unable to get up within the tenth count, so no second, im gonna say sure, why not third, no, it's not a fact how could you not have answered those yourself? they were rhetorical. fact is, Solis was ko/tkoed in the first round. fact is, Solis struggled and gassed against a ****ty over 40 Ray Austin fact is, Solis was still overweight and needed to lose 20 or more lbs to even have a chance of beating Vitali Solis had little to no shot at beating Vitali. maybe if he came in shape, but until they have the fight in fantasy land, that will never happen.

Since when did the first round of a championship fight become so important to determining how the fight will go~

is it a fact that he got KOed in the first round? is it a fact that he gassed against a ****ty over 40 Ray Austin who is not even close to Vitali's level? is it a fact that Solis still needed to lose over 20lbs ot have been in good shape against Vitali? ko = unable to get up within the tenth count, so no second, im gonna say sure, why not third, no, it's not a fact really reaching.

He had the best round anyone's had against Vitali in at least 5 years, then got injured. It's a shame the seriousness of the injury will probably deprive us of a rematch and the chance to see what might really have happened.

oh, is that a fact? is it a fact that he got KOed in the first round? is it a fact that he gassed against a ****ty over 40 Ray Austin who is not even close to Vitali's level? is it a fact that Solis still needed to lose over 20lbs ot have been in good shape against Vitali?

lol, Solis almost won round 1=he was effective. interesting. and considering Vitali's last opponents were an old Briggs(with an injury to boot) and Sosnowski who didnt deserve a title shot either, that second statement doesnt mean much at all. incidently, thats bull****. Briggs landed harder more flush shots on Vitali than Solis did in that one round, its just that he was so busy getting his ass kicked that no one noticed. Sosnowski also did better against Vitali than most expected. Are you looking for someone who is actually trying to win, or just 'look good' against Vitali? Solis had little to no shot to win, when he could even win the first round and because of his overweight nature would have gotten worse as the fight progressed and as he ate Vitali's punches. oh, is that a fact?

seemed to me like he was already being effective so much for a bum who struggled with austin not being able to do sht vs vitali, he landed more meaningful punches on vitali in the one round than the last 2 or 3 vitali opponents after the whole fight and he was in pretty good shape, despite the excess skin from dropping weight too fast, it was'nt all blob or you'd see ***** tits lol, Solis almost won round 1=he was effective. interesting. and considering Vitali's last opponents were an old Briggs(with an injury to boot) and Sosnowski who didnt deserve a title shot either, that second statement doesnt mean much at all. incidently, thats bull****. Briggs landed harder more flush shots on Vitali than Solis did in that one round, its just that he was so busy getting his ass kicked that no one noticed. Sosnowski also did better against Vitali than most expected. Are you looking for someone who is actually trying to win, or just 'look good' against Vitali? Solis had little to no shot to win, when he couldnt even win the first round and because of his overweight nature would have gotten worse as the fight progressed and as he ate Vitali's punches.

seemed to me like he was already being effective so much for a bum who struggled with austin not being able to do sht vs vitali, he landed more meaningful punches on vitali in the one round than the last 2 or 3 vitali opponents after the whole fight and he was in pretty good shape, despite the excess skin from dropping weight too fast, it was'nt all blob or you'd see ***** tits Who cares about how a guy looks in one round which he gets knocked out~ any clown can look decent in one round especially the first one.

Oh and if he was a serious fighter battling a knee injury he wouldn't be carrying around 1 extra pound of weight which only exacerbates leg issues, let alone 25 pounds (or more).

did you not realise he was still fat and overweight, and that struggling against an over 40 Ray ****ing Austin means you will be killed by Vitali, who is exponentially better than Austin? good job for him, he lost 14lbs, hes a professional fighter for crying out loud. he still needed to lose 20+ more lbs to actually be effective. seemed to me like he was already being effective so much for a bum who struggled with austin not being able to do sht vs vitali, he landed more meaningful punches on vitali in the one round than the last 2 or 3 vitali opponents after the whole fight and he was in pretty good shape, despite the excess skin from dropping weight too fast, it was'nt all blob or you'd see ***** tits

did you not realise he was still fat and overweight, and that struggling against an over 40 Ray ****ing Austin means you will be killed by Vitali, who is exponentially better than Austin? good job for him, he lost 14lbs, hes a professional fighter for crying out loud. he still needed to lose 20+ more lbs to actually be effective. For his biggest pay day he managed to come in slightly better shape bravo to him. That shows exactly why he is a clown who never had what it takes to get to the top of the sport.

do you realise he was 260 in the austin fight? and vs vitali he was 246? training makes a difference or did you not know that? did you not realise he was still fat and overweight, and that struggling against an over 40 Ray ****ing Austin means you will be killed by Vitali, who is exponentially better than Austin? good job for him, he lost 14lbs, hes a professional fighter for crying out loud. he still needed to lose 20+ more lbs to actually be effective.

Some writers, like Eric Raskin of The Ring, thought Solis was a potential champion. See the article in the current issue. Teddy Atlas thought he'd beat Vitali. I have no problem with this, i have no problem with people who thought that vitali would win. I just don't like lazy journalists who simply wrote him off (of which there were many) and now seem to think they themselves were correct. Edit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...eavyweight-wbc http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011...is-heavyweight I just put these in my original post. this is the kind of crap i hate. same journalist, a retard in both articles.

The injury caused the stoppage of the fight. its very obvious. that being said, Solis sucks and had very little chance of winning. did you see his last fight? good lord. maybe if he got down to a healthy 220 he would have a chance. but even then...I dont think so. do you realise he was 260 in the austin fight? and vs vitali he was 246? training makes a difference or did you not know that?