Why Do People Act Like Martinez Win Over Dzinziruk Was A Big Deal?

I never thought Dzinziruk was all that good, but I can't say that he's on the level of Yuri Foreman. At least he could probably still beat Wolak. That's a typical statement from a true Cottard that Sergei is on the level of Foreman. Lol.

Maybe he should have. The Mayorga who faced Cotto would have beaten Dzinziruk. LMAO you're an idiot

What? Dizzy isnt some random, unproven euro bum, homie. Dizzy is a damn good fighter, thats why even pro Martinez people were nervous about the fight. yeah dzinziruk is a pretty good junior middleweight. why is martinez fighting him though? they aren't in the same division and dzinziruk isn't some elite fighter that should be fighting out of his comfort zone(154) why would anyone knowledgeable be worried about dzinziruk? the styles heavily favor martinez and when you add the fact that he's the much bigger man it was just a mismatch. a guy like pirog on the other hand provides a much more difficult challenge stylistically because he's unpredictable, has power and he's a top middleweight. dibella is matching martinez soft on purpose and fans are going nuts over it? dibella's comical list of potential opponents and his willingness to fight dzinziruk but not pirog showed he wanted no part of pirog. now dibella admitted martinez is getting a soft touch next against a guy like lee or manfredo. he's just stringing fans along with easy fights while raking in the money. don't support this crap no matter who does it.

I agree that the win shouldn't be taken out of context, the stylistic matchup was a nightmare for Dzinziruk. As I said before the fight, I didn't think Dzinziruk would be able to win a round. Guys who fight like Dzinziruk, who rely on the jab and shuffle forward in that stand up European style do very well against guys who rely more on their skills, but they normally don't do well with unpredictable styles.

IMHO, lets not rush and get carried away with sergio being OMFG HES P4P the best!! I for one, will be impressed and acknowledge his current ranking if he can moved up 1, 2, 3, or more weight divisions and beat bigger stronger guys... just like the current P4P did. After all, you dont see Pac getting #1 P4P staying at featherweight and challenging fighters a division lower than him.

Martinez fighting anybody in junior middleweight is nothing to get excited about. I don't care if he scores a KO, it should be expected. I'm glad he's willing to fight anybody but he shouldn't expect us to drop our pants just because he beats an opponent who everyone felt he should beat. I think Martinez is an exciting fighter but I won't buy into this "maravella" bullsh*t until I see him fight a legitimate fighter from SMW. There is no real competition for him at MW.

yeah they will say why is martinez fighting a top middleweight when he could have fought a jr middleweight like Zaurbek Baysangurov. What? Dizzy isnt some random, unproven euro bum, homie. Dizzy is a damn good fighter, thats why even pro Martinez people were nervous about the fight.

Its bull****. Dizzy beat Santos when Santos was still a damn good fighter. Dizzy is absolutely a to competitor, Martinez is just that good. People will say the same **** if and when he stops Pirog. yeah they will say why is martinez fighting a top middleweight when he could have fought a jr middleweight like Zaurbek Baysangurov.

Who should he have faced instead? Pirog whose beat nobody? Dzinziruk has never been down, is a solid fighter (and did win a couple rounds against Martinez) and did what he could. I don't know what people want. Its bull****. Dizzy beat Santos when Santos was still a damn good fighter. Dizzy is absolutely a to competitor, Martinez is just that good. People will say the same **** if and when he stops Pirog.

That win is comparable to Pac beating Jan Zaveck or Senchenko, only they're atleast in his division. Pac would get slaughtered for fighting an unproven euro level fighter, with other fights out there for him. Martinez gets nothing but praise and even called the true p4p #1 with that win, double standards are laughable. you are exactly right. people think it's a good win only because dzinziruk was undefeated. that's because he hasn't fought very many good fighters more than anything but i guess people don't care. if you want to fight an undefeated fighter why not fight a top guy actually in your division named pirog? oh wait he's not a draw like dzinziruk that's why yea that must be it.

In one poll, which happened to be Yahoo's poll. He wasn't even ranked on just about any other poll, and if he was he was 9 or 10 MAYBE. I remember making a thread on this even before the Sergio fight (or it might have been after the first one) but I was in shock when I saw this. Still, that being said by beating 1 MAYBE P4P guy that earns you number 2? If this is the case then who has donaire beaten that's top ten p4p to earn him a 4 or 5 p4p ranking according to RING ? Certainly not darchynian or montiel right ?

Sergei is actually a decent fighter and I won't put him in a class with yuri foreman at all .. he's way better than foreman. .. the sergei that martinez just fought would have absolutely beaten mayorga aand would have ko'd foreman easily .people forget he cut martinez in that 7th rd and was turning it up so don't go acting like this was a win over a bum.. dzinzurik would have given plenty 154lbers and 160lbers problems

Who should he have faced instead? Pirog whose beat nobody? Dzinziruk has never been down, is a solid fighter (and did win a couple rounds against Martinez) and did what he could. I don't know what people want. people want the middleweight champ to fight a middleweight and not a superwelterweight... very simple...

Cause it was him knocking someone out a gain doing it I mean it's not like that dude was 147. 154 and 160 aren't that far apart and considering Martinez was there like what a year and a half ago it don't really matter he beat a solid dude That win is comparable to Pac beating Jan Zaveck or Senchenko, only they're atleast in his division. Pac would get slaughtered for fighting an unproven euro level fighter, with other fights out there for him. Martinez gets nothing but praise and even called the true p4p #1 with that win, double standards are laughable.

Cause it was him knocking someone out a gain doing it I mean it's not like that dude was 147. 154 and 160 aren't that far apart and considering Martinez was there like what a year and a half ago it don't really matter he beat a solid dude

Williams was never ranked that high by the Ring. Right my bad he was ranked #5

In one poll, which happened to be Yahoo's poll. He wasn't even ranked on just about any other poll, and if he was he was 9 or 10 MAYBE. I remember making a thread on this even before the Sergio fight (or it might have been after the first one) but I was in shock when I saw this. Still, that being said by beating 1 MAYBE P4P guy that earns you number 2? Williams was ranked #3 by Ring Magazine and ESPN, he also beat Pavlik who was the recognized Middleweight Champion of the World.

Paul Williams was ranked #3 when they fought. In one poll, which happened to be Yahoo's poll. He wasn't even ranked on just about any other poll, and if he was he was 9 or 10 MAYBE. I remember making a thread on this even before the Sergio fight (or it might have been after the first one) but I was in shock when I saw this. Still, that being said by beating 1 MAYBE P4P guy that earns you number 2?

I don't have a problem with who he fought as I've never seen a company turn around so badly as HBO and their boxing department. Its the fact that I don't think Sergio has even faced a top 10 P4P, yet he's ranked 2 or 3 already thats the biggest issue, not the fact that he beat up an unknown. Paul Williams was ranked #3 when they fought.

I don't have a problem with who he fought as I've never seen a company turn around so badly as HBO and their boxing department. Its the fact that I don't think Sergio has even faced a top 10 P4P, yet he's ranked 2 or 3 already thats the biggest issue, not the fact that he beat up an unknown.