People act like he is some difficult to beat, end of a video game boss man.
Why would Cotto be scared of him when he has faced some of the most elite fighters around his division. Dude is a true warrior and doesn't run from anyone.
Same with Pacquiao. Dude has balls and if they fought at 152-154 Manny has a great chance of beating him.
Just because he beat an overrated, KO waiting to happen Williams, an souless Kelly Pavlik (courtesy of uncle Bernard) and a severly inactive Sergei Dzinzurik doesn't mean this guy is some type of monster.
People just need to realize that Cotto, Floyd and Manny all have fights that make more sense right now and Sergio will just have to wait his turn.
Margarito vs Cotto II makes more sense right now (for obvious reasons) and neither Manny or Floyd will face him before facing each other (it doesn't make sense to and only an idiot would argue other wise).
WCan you please explain what Pirog has done that's any better than Pavlik, Williams and Dzinziruk? Just curious. Thanks.
Yet when I asked what Berto had done to deserve a fight with Manny, you d@mn near had a heart attack.
for the love of god can you stay consistant.........
if i were floyd or pac, i wouldn't fight martinez either simply because the playing field is not reasonable. and i would think most people in this forum, if not all, would do the same. it's very easy to act like macho when you're just talking over the internet.
I dont think Paul would beat him again either. I was just making the point that he beat him so it can be done.
If anyone can beat him and dominate him i wouldnt put it pass Mayweather. Who is a much better fighter than Martinez.
Floyd is a better fighter than Martinez. And if they were the same size, perhaps he'd dominate him. But they're not. Add in the fact that Floyd isn't the most active fighter these days and you have yourselves one ultra competitive fight.
People forget that Floyd has problems against south paws.
All the southpaws he's faced, he dominated them. But Sergio is too much of a risk, for Floyd AND Manny. Thus, they won't fight him. And I don't know why people are getting bent out of shape with what Sergio says about Floyd and Manny. The guy wants that bread, and he knows Floyd and Manny is where its at. However, neither one of them will fight him and I don't blame them to be honest.
Oh hes too good now.
Yeah let martinez be the same size as pacquaio and i bet pacquaio would beat him.
The reason martinez would beat pacquaio because of the combination of size and skills.
Its not like martinez is more skilled than pacquaio. The thing is that pac cant hurt martinez while martinez can hurt pacquaio and martinez has the speed to catch pacquaio unlike margarito and actually will take advantage of his size something margarito doesnt do.
Whatever, pal. Enjoy Pacquiao vs. **insert undeserving challenger here**
Personally, both Manny & Floyd should have no issues fighting him at 154. But they won't and I acknowledge that. But know this, the reason they won't isn't because he's too big, it's because he's too good.
Oh hes too good now.
Yeah let martinez be the same size as pacquaio and i bet pacquaio would beat him.
The reason martinez would beat pacquaio because of the combination of size and skills.
Its not like martinez is more skilled than pacquaio. The thing is that pac cant hurt martinez while martinez can hurt pacquaio and martinez has the speed to catch pacquaio unlike margarito and actually will take advantage of his size something margarito doesnt do.
I dont think Paul would beat him again either. I was just making the point that he beat him so it can be done.
If anyone can beat him and dominate him i wouldnt put it pass Mayweather. Who is a much better fighter than Martinez.
Floyd isn't dominating Sergio. No good.
Williams can't beat him again. I saw an interview with his trainer on the Spanish channel and I can tell you he called it perfectly, BEFORE the Williams fight.
Martinez is a very smart fighter and can figure guys out, plus his style is very difficult.
I don't see any of those top names beating Martinez.
I dont think Paul would beat him again either. I was just making the point that he beat him so it can be done.
If anyone can beat him and dominate him i wouldnt put it pass Mayweather. Who is a much better fighter than Martinez.
Unebeatable? Paul Williams beat him.
Williams can't beat him again. I saw an interview with his trainer on the Spanish channel and I can tell you he called it perfectly, BEFORE the Williams fight.
Martinez is a very smart fighter and can figure guys out, plus his style is very difficult.
I don't see any of those top names beating Martinez.
Manny and his team want no part of Sergio unless the fight is at 147lbs:no:
And sergio doesn't want any part of pac unless the fight is at 154lbs and above.
Martinez-"Who is Pirog". "Pirog is a nobody", "Pirog brings no money to the table".
Also I've seen you call fighters out for not facing champs in the own division and when Martinez uses the whole "I want to fight for a big payday instead of those guys" excuse, your here in this thread trying to justify it.
I have no issues with Manny, Floyd or cotto facing Martinez. I would love to see it. My thing is people need to be consistent with their views not give passes for things they bash other fighters for.
WCan you please explain what Pirog has done that's any better than Pavlik, Williams and Dzinziruk? Just curious. Thanks.
Calling him out for what? He moved up to fight the best middle. Not some paper champ.
Martinez-"Who is Pirog". "Pirog is a nobody", "Pirog brings no money to the table".
Also I've seen you call fighters out for not facing champs in the own division and when Martinez uses the whole "I want to fight for a big payday instead of those guys" excuse, your here in this thread trying to justify it.
I have no issues with Manny, Floyd or Cotto facing Martinez. I would love to see it. My thing is people need to be consistent with their views and not give Martinez passes for things they bash other fighters for.
See that's the only problem I have. You want both of them to fight Martinez? So do I, and any real boxing fan does as well. As someone else in another thread said, the only people who don't want to see either fight Martinez are the people who don't want to risk Pacquiao or Mayweather losing. But I have a huge problem with calling it a duck.
I can't argue with anything you said here.
No but why aren't you guys calling him out for the same things you bash other fighters for.
Calling him out for what? He moved up to fight the best middle. Not some paper champ.
So Martinez wouldn't be challenging himself say he took on Mayweather or Pacquiao? I really don't understand that.
No but why aren't you guys calling him out for the same things you bash other fighters for.
I don't know if I'd call it a duck but for the love of God, they should give it a shot. Both were willing to fight for sham 154lb titles but they don't want to fight the best available guy at 154? Come on.
See that's the only problem I have. You want both of them to fight Martinez? So do I, and any real boxing fan does as well. As someone else in another thread said, the only people who don't want to see either fight Martinez are the people who don't want to risk Pacquiao or Mayweather losing. But I have a huge problem with calling it a duck.