I don't really know which way I'd go on it after last night. Martinez has wrecked three excellent fighters in a row.
Mayweather has been quite inactive, but he did beat the lineal welterweight champion of the world in his last fight.
Has the tide turned on this question in most people's minds?
nope vic and motiel wins were very far apart.....sergios last 3 fights
pavlik-linear mw champ
pwill-top 5 p4p fighter
dar(however you spell it)-37-0 wbo jmw champ
pavlik was coming off a loss to bhop prior to fighting sergio.....he looked like sh1t in that fight too.....the pwill win was a good win no doubt but it aint better than mntiel a 3 div champion , unified at bw,the best at bw, or darch a unified champion at 112 at that point , and a 3 div champ.. both were top 10 p4p when nonito fought them.......
my bad....i thought you were serious about sergio having better resume than donaire.....
I am, although it's close. I haven't really studied the resumes side by side and done all the analysis that I need to in order to say definitely one way or another.
I think people are out of their mind if they think one of those two has a better resume without a doubt... they are both stacking up a bunch of good wins, and there is no argument against that.
that was a response to larry trying to descredit pac's wins.........here's something, sergio's win over sergey aint better than pac's win over margo....
but cool...back to the thread topic!....it was'nt only becuasse floyd's inactivity why he deresves not to be in the top 3, it's also becuase he's last performance (altho good)was'nt as good as pac's , nonito's or sergios....
I have to disagree with you that Pac > Margarito is better than Martinez > Dzyna... Margarito hasn't done anything since getting slaughtered by Mosley...
I agree that Floyd shouldn't be dropped due to inactivity... that takes a year... it just might be that people are catching up in terms of resume, since he fights so rarely, and other people are stacking up good win after good win, namely Donaire and Martinez.
Lineal middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik, one loss Paul Williams who was a two division champion and undefeated 154 long time titlist Sergiy Dzinziruk.
However, Donaire has undefeated Darchinyan who went on to beat Mijares (but hasn't done much since), Montiel who was coming off a huge win and a totally underrated execution of Wladimir Sidorenko.
Lol, thanks for picking up on the sarcasm from my post.
my bad....i thought you were serious about sergio having better resume than donaire.....
2006 =/= 2010.
It's also true that Margarito hasn't had a real consistent streak without losses since Floyd moved to welterweight. Santos in 05, Williams in 07, Mosley in 09.
But hey, let's stop talking about the irrelevant past, and get down to the real issue. WHY DID FLOYD DUCK FREITAS AND CASAMAYOR AT 130 BACK IN 2000?!?!?!?
that was a response to larry trying to descredit pac's wins.........here's something, sergio's win over sergey aint better than pac's win over margo....
but cool...back to the thread topic!....it was'nt only becuasse floyd's inactivity why he deresves not to be in the top 3, it's also becuase he's last performance (altho good)was'nt as good as pac's , nonito's or sergios....
i strongly disagree.....wins over darchinyan and montiel >>>>>>>anything sergio has done.....
Lineal middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik, one loss Paul Williams who was a two division champion and undefeated 154 long time titlist Sergiy Dzinziruk.
However, Donaire has undefeated Darchinyan who went on to beat Mijares (but hasn't done much since), Montiel who was coming off a huge win and a totally underrated execution of Wladimir Sidorenko.
It wasnt a duck. He felt he deserved more money so all sidessaid fuk it I guess. He would have eaten them anyway. He went to LW and beat the champ and hasnt looked back since.
Lol, thanks for picking up on the sarcasm from my post.
i strongly disagree.....wins over darchinyan and montiel >>>>>>>anything sergio has done.....
nope vic and motiel wins were very far apart.....sergios last 3 fights
pavlik-linear mw champ
pwill-top 5 p4p fighter
dar(however you spell it)-37-0 wbo jmw champ
2 more months will make a year without fighting... then he gets dropped. Floyd is still considered active... so where do you have him compared to Pacquiao, Martinez and Donaire.
They really are neck and neck with the winner usually being the guy who fought last. I think Martinez is better though resume wise.
i strongly disagree.....wins over darchinyan and montiel >>>>>>>anything sergio has done.....
ofcourse youd say that.......if margo was'nt nothing, how come its common knwledge that floyd ducked him?....
2006 =/= 2010.
It's also true that Margarito hasn't had a real consistent streak without losses since Floyd moved to welterweight. Santos in 05, Williams in 07, Mosley in 09.
But hey, let's stop talking about the irrelevant past, and get down to the real issue. WHY DID FLOYD DUCK FREITAS AND CASAMAYOR AT 130 BACK IN 2000?!?!?!?
manny hasnt fought anyone worthy since cotto man
ofcourse youd say that.......if margo was'nt nothing, how come its common knwledge that floyd ducked him?....
floyd should be dropped from the list for inactivity
2 more months will make a year without fighting... then he gets dropped. Floyd is still considered active... so where do you have him compared to Pacquiao, Martinez and Donaire.
nonito is # 2in my book ......and martinez defitely is # 3....
They really are neck and neck with the winner usually being the guy who fought last. I think Martinez is better though resume wise.
LOL....not only due to inactivity man.....pac's , nonito's and sergios' performances sh1t on floyd's also.....
manny hasnt fought anyone worthy since cotto man
floyd should be dropped from the list for inactivity
LOL....not only due to inactivity man.....pac's , nonito's and sergios' performances sh1t on floyd's also.....
I don't really know which way I'd go on it after last night. Martinez has wrecked three excellent fighters in a row.
Mayweather has been quite inactive, but he did beat the lineal welterweight champion of the world in his last fight.
Has the tide turned on this question in most people's minds?
P4P #1 A and B - pac and martinez.
P4P #2 - spot for pac OR martinez in the future if they lost
P4P #3 - nonito donaire