Zab Judah Has to Be Ranked #3 at 140

Actually judah already lost at 140. That lost became one of the funniest knock out. But I know you meant lately. He is not top 5 yet since he hasn't fought any of the top 5. Its like berto. Berto only became top 3 because the top welters all beat the **** of eachother(cotto, marg, mosley, clottey) and then went on to get embarassed by atg fighter and the left the division.

No freaking way. If Judah fought Kotelnik, Maidana, Alexander, someone in that range, he would lose. Let alone if he fought Bradley or Khan.

No way.. Khan Maidana Bradley are still higher then him Then you still have Alexander Ortiz

I think thats how Zab made him look with his new defense. If the old Zab showed up he would have gotten stopped easy. Mabuza has power to compete with any of the top fighters @140 with only 14 KO's in 23 fights I really think its hard to make that statement. His only notable KO is against a shot Holt and he quit. Alexander has a higher KO %. 42% vs 59%

Mabuza looked extremely slow and sloppy. Even so, the fight was dead even on my scorecard. Not worthy of top #3 perhaps #6 or maybe #5. I think thats how Zab made him look with his new defense. If the old Zab showed up he would have gotten stopped easy. Mabuza has power to compete with any of the top fighters @140

All of a sudden Mabuza is a nobody he was doing fine in the fight, it was close I'm sure some ppl had him ahead on cards Mabuza looked extremely slow and sloppy. Even so, the fight was dead even on my scorecard. Not worthy of top #3 perhaps #6 or maybe #5.

All of a sudden Mabuza is a nobody he was doing fine in the fight, it was close I'm sure some ppl had him ahead on cards

My opinion is that fighters should not move up in the rankings just because other fighters have lost Prime example Berto. Dude is 3rd at WW not because he beat the best but because the best beat eachother and knocked themselves down Judah has to beat at least a top 4 or 5 fighter to get there He's not moving up just because of their losses, he won by KO and grabbed a belt in great fashion. no he shouldn't, what you talking about? Mathysse beat his ass, we all know it. Matthyse did not beat his ass, it was a close fight where Judah won early rounds started to fade and Lucas came on in later rounds.

he is Top 5 for sure, Kaizer Mabuza was no "BUM", that was a HUGE WIN, I thought Mabuza Jab and size would give Zab problems and it did early in the fight

Kotelnik shoudnt leave 140. If he faces someone decent and looks good, he could end up with a shot at the loser of Khan/Bradley. Which may be for a vacant title assuming the winner moves up. Bradley and Khan are both looking at 147, so there could be a lot of belts up for grabs in 2012.

Kotelnik... Kotelnik's moving up to 147. Judah should be #5 once that is made official.

judah generally does better against boxers than he does against punchers alexander could well be tailor made for him bruh He also has a problem with speed and pop, which Devon does have. Not to mention Devon's a southpaw right along with him. Devon's last two performances though have told me alot about his intestinal fortitude. And I didn't like what I saw. I think Zab is far too smart for Devon(At this point)as well Panda homie.

whos #5 for you...... 1.Brad 2.Khan 3.Maidana 4.Alex 5.??? Kotelnik...

Kotelnik??? I thought he was movin up?

Maidana or winner of Berto/Ortiz has to be next for him..

whos #5 for you...... 1.Brad 2.Khan 3.Maidana 4.Alex 5.??? Kotelnik???

Agreed. Anything less than 5 and I say Zab has a strong case. But until he fights and beats either Amir, Tim, Devon, or Marcos. I cant have him in my top 5. whos #5 for you...... 1.Brad 2.Khan 3.Maidana 4.Alex 5.???

Your opinion is respected, but on paper he has a "W" against Lucas. How any of us feel about that is irrelevant this point IMHO. Even with the "W" on paper he isn't #3

He isn't #3. He didn't even beat Mathysse imo. He should be ranked #6 atm. I'd like to see him beat a top 5 guy or actually beat Mathysse in a rematch before I put him at #3. Your opinion is respected, but on paper he has a "W" against Lucas. How any of us feel about that is irrelevant this point IMHO.

No, Judah does not HAVE to be ranked #3...He shouldn't even be ranked in the top 5. Agreed. Anything less than 5 and I say Zab has a strong case. But until he fights and beats either Amir, Tim, Devon, or Marcos. I cant have him in my top 5.